Snake Room Update

Just got done throwing in another 4' stack and moving stuff around. Finally gonna have more room for my retics and burms lol.

Still gotta build an 8' stack as well but it's progress.

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Looks nice :gj: Are those AP racks in the last photo?

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Originally Posted by Slim

Looks nice :gj: Are those AP racks in the last photo?

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Thank you and no lol, all Expensive Hobby racks lol. But thanks for the compliment haha

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Wow! You really did a great job with them!

What are the ones on the right that, I'm assuming, you keep your big snakes in?

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Originally Posted by Slim

Wow! You really did a great job with them!

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Thank you very much

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Originally Posted by TurkeyPython

What are the ones on the right that, I'm assuming, you keep your big snakes in?

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They are Expensive Hobby Enclosures as well lol.

And my BIG snakes will go in another custom built stack of enclosures, except they will measure 4x8x2. And it will be a stack of 4 high. Room for 4 adult female retics.

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Great pics! In the 4' stack, what do you use to heat them and do you have them wired so that one channel on a thermostat will control all of them?

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Originally Posted by artgecko

Great pics! In the 4' stack, what do you use to heat them and do you have them wired so that one channel on a thermostat will control all of them?

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No heat on any of my enclosures. I use ambient room heat controlled by a Ranco ETC 111000 and a ceiling fan to make the heat even from top to bottom. Walk in the room barefoot and even the carpet is warm lol

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Looks awesome! What material did you use for the big cages?

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Originally Posted by jclaiborne

Looks awesome! What material did you use for the big cages?

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I used 3/4" White Thermally Fused Laminate Panel also known as Melamine lol. All joints were made using a dado or rabbit, joined with water proof adhesives, and sealed with white(non moldicide) silicone.

I have had standing water in them with no issues. Big snakes knock over water tubs on a regular basis. However I would not let it sit in there like that for long just to be safe.

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Oh ok...I thought the pic looked like melamine, but I had remembered a cage you posted for your retic that looked like you had made one out of PVC?

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Originally Posted by jclaiborne

Oh ok...I thought the pic looked like melamine, but I had remembered a cage you posted for your retic that looked like you had made one out of PVC?

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Ya believe it or not that cage was plywood lol. I just finished it off really nice lol.



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Wow...that's awesome

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Purple Sunfire Albino Retic lit me up today lol
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He was in in a bad mood and I'm trying to break him of his naughty habits lol

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Originally Posted by Expensive hobby

Purple Sunfire Albino Retic lit me up today lol

He was in in a bad mood and I'm trying to break him of his naughty habits lol

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Doesnt look like he enjoyed the lesson lol. the room looks sweet man

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Originally Posted by MonkeyShuttle

Doesnt look like he enjoyed the lesson lol. the room looks sweet man

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No he didn't haha. Moved him from a MCB-S 13.5qt to a sterilite 41qt rack and now he thinks he has a territory lol.

Here is the offender: http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/04/uta3uzy6.jpg
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And thank you. The room is a work in progress.

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I've been wanting to set up a reptile room using just ambient temps. What temp do you keep the room at to ensure good health? Do you also use a Humidifier for the entire room, or control each enclosures humidity individually?

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I've been wanting to set up a reptile room using just ambient temps. What temp do you keep the room at to ensure good health? Do you also use a Humidifier for the entire room, or control each enclosures humidity individually?

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I keep my t - stat at 87°F and warmer species up high and cooler species down low, although the fan does a pretty good job of keeping the warm air well circulated from top to bottom. Everything poops at regular intervals and no health issues to date from keeping things this way.

As far as humidity, I have kept the room humidified but it was too much upkeep filling the humidifier everyday, so now I just use larger water bowls/tubs and humidity stays pretty constant at 68% in the tubs and enclosures. All tubs and all enclosures use the same size water bowl given their respective size, after a lot of tweaking to find the perfect surface area to get the desired humidity.

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Got a brand new deep freezer for the snake room. 6.8 cubic feet, and currently has 60 lbs of jumbos, XL's, Larges, Mediums and Smalls.

Hope it has enough room for large rabbits too lol

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I keep my t - stat at 87°F and warmer species up high and cooler species down low, although the fan does a pretty good job of keeping the warm air well circulated from top to bottom. Everything poops at regular intervals and no health issues to date from keeping things this way.

As far as humidity, I have kept the room humidified but it was too much upkeep filling the humidifier everyday, so now I just use larger water bowls/tubs and humidity stays pretty constant at 68% in the tubs and enclosures. All tubs and all enclosures use the same size water bowl given their respective size, after a lot of tweaking to find the perfect surface area to get the desired humidity.

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Awesome, thanks for the info. This is something I've been looking for but never given a straight answer.

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Awesome, thanks for the info. This is something I've been looking for but never given a straight answer.

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Ya unfortunately a lot of people aren't fond of the idea because they have been told forever that snakes must have belly heat, a gradient, and flex watt lol.

I just look at the really big successful breeders that are making all the cool new, healthy snakes and figure if it's good for the goose it's good for the gander lol.

Edit: and that's not knocking people that use flexwatt or a gradient etc, because I've used it myself, and still do on quarantine outside of the temp controlled room, but whole room heating is simply much more efficient. Less equip. Less power, less stuff to potentially fail. If something happens to an enclosure I can throw anything anywhere in the room and it has the proper temp. It's especially handy when feeding breeding pairs. I throw one in a big tub, and feed both seperately, but both still have the right heat.
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Its a really intriguing set up, and I can definitely see the appeal. Ive never tried it, so dont think im knocking you at all, but it makes me wonder a bit. It just seems wrong to me to not let a snake thermoregulate ya know? They are temperature dependant animals, and i would think that the ability to select a preferred body temperature is a major part of their natural behavior.

I know of plenty of breeders that do this, but in my opinion, their is more to keeping snakes then getting them to breed successfully.

Can you see what im getting at?

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Originally Posted by CryHavoc17

Its a really intriguing set up, and I can definitely see the appeal. Ive never tried it, so dont think im knocking you at all, but it makes me wonder a bit. It just seems wrong to me to not let a snake thermoregulate ya know? They are temperature dependant animals, and i would think that the ability to select a preferred body temperature is a major part of their natural behavior.

I know of plenty of breeders that do this, but in my opinion, their is more to keeping snakes then getting them to breed successfully.

Can you see what im getting at?

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Well on the flip to that side of the arguement, I also provide bigger water bowls than most people do. To me it is an important feature. If the snakes can fully immerse themselves in their water, they can thermoregulate. The water IS the same temperature if not a degree or two colder, however when they come out, the natural cooling effect of evaporation lowers their temperature. Being that I keep the room at 87°, which isn't quite at the top of their accepted temperature range, they can achieve a lower temp than you would think by simply soaking.

To warm up more than the ambient temp of the cage, they do what most reptiles do, and find a warm surface to touch. I can tell when they are trying to get warmer(like if the door has been open on cleaning day and ambient has dropped a few degrees temporarily) when they are pressed up against the glass of their enclosures, which retains heat better than the air, and transmits heat better than the air itself.

So far, my theories on how and why it works seem to be correct, and everything seems to be as "happy" as a snake can be in captivity lol.

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