The Jumanji Ball

Breeding Ball Pythons is just like rolling the dice... You never know what's coming up next...

Single gene Jumanji:
Bright. Full. Pure.

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Jumanji Pinstripe:
Orange. Clean. Boss.

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This is a sample out of last years clutch from our original African Import male bred to a Pinstripe female. He's in with a big Yellowbelly girl as we speak. Being a very small-time breeder with limited space, I simply can't breed every female that I want. So one girl per season is what it's going to be for us regarding the Jumanji project... for now. They are getting brighter and brighter with more red and orange as they grow. Much like ODs, you have to let them shed a few times before the colors start to appear.

Thanks for looking :gj:

You need more space! Because he needs a date with a fire, a lesser, an enchi, a champagne... ;)

umm, im sorry, but i dont see a morph except for pinstripe. its too subtle for me.

maybe it has some awesome super form or turns out to be compatible with some gene complex. but right now, i see nothing.

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Originally Posted by Pythonfriend

umm, im sorry, but i dont see a morph except for pinstripe. its too subtle for me.

maybe it has some awesome super form or turns out to be compatible with some gene complex. but right now, i see nothing.

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I was thinking kinda the same thing. Maybe some pastel in it. What is about I that makes it it's own morph?

With these subtle morphs, I find a comparison shot very helpful. Take a look at the shot I did with the Congo Fire (http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...119-Congo-Fire). By having a Fire and a normal in the picture, you can see what the Congo gene did to the Fire gene. I think this morph would really benefit from a comparison picture.

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Originally Posted by van_garret2000

I was thinking kinda the same thing. Maybe some pastel in it. What is about I that makes it it's own morph?

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Yep x3 for me. Don't see what's going on here that's special. I hatched 4 pins last year that all looked just like that one. Maybe even brighter.

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Originally Posted by Slowcountry Balls

With these subtle morphs, I find a comparison shot very helpful. Take a look at the shot I did with the Congo Fire (http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...119-Congo-Fire). By having a Fire and a normal in the picture, you can see what the Congo gene did to the Fire gene. I think this morph would really benefit from a comparison picture.

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awesome idea :gj:

Thanks for your comments. I guess I'll have to get some comparison shots for ya. Its pretty neat in person.

I like it!

I can see it, very pretty!

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Originally Posted by Coopers Constrictors

Thanks for your comments. I guess I'll have to get some comparison shots for ya. Its pretty neat in person.

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With the huge variation in normals, I'm not sure a comparison shot will tell anything...seems premature to be naming it as a new morph unless you've had other breedings that produced something more obvious...

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Originally Posted by sho220

With the huge variation in normals, I'm not sure a comparison shot will tell anything...seems premature to be naming it as a new morph unless you've had other breedings that produced something more obvious...

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It's a pretty obvious mutation and looks nothing like a normal. Breeding it to a Pin does hide a lot of things as well. But thanks for your opinion :gj:

As stated in post #1, this year the male is breeding a YB girl... So we can finally check that one off the list.

Next year, he will see a Super Mojave and a Superfly. So don't you worry, we will make plenty of new combos for ya and am very excited to see how everything will react to each other.

When something reproduces itself, makes combos, and normals, its genetic :gj:

Maybe this will help those who can't see it...

Here is the original Jumanji import male, the day after we got him in, last year:
(bad pics!)

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http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/k...Prospect35.jpg

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i think many things will become much more clear 10-15 years from now, when hobby breeders can take all these things into scaleless to see it in greater detail. And while scaleless moves along, so will genetic sequencing and genetic testing.

so, one or two decades from now, we will either be looking at scaleless versions to figure out morphs, or we will look at genetic sequences as digital data, or both. probarbly both. im really looking forward to scaleless pinstripe and scaleless spider and scaleless pastel and scaleless black pastel. these pictures will reveal so much.

but the new pictures really make me believe that there may be something going on here, that it may be genetic.

Who produced the original male?

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Originally Posted by van_garret2000

Who produced the original male?

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The original male was imported from Africa in 2012. He is one of only about 100 that were hand selected by Brant Rustich (Major League Reptiles) out of 30,000+ imported BPs.

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Originally Posted by Coopers Constrictors

It's a pretty obvious mutation and looks nothing like a normal. Breeding it to a Pin does hide a lot of things as well. But thanks for your opinion :gj:

As stated in post #1, this year the male is breeding a YB girl... So we can finally check that one off the list.

Next year, he will see a Super Mojave and a Superfly. So don't you worry, we will make plenty of new combos for ya and am very excited to see how everything will react to each other.

When something reproduces itself, makes combos, and normals, its genetic :gj:

Maybe this will help those who can't see it...

Here is the original Jumanji import male, the day after we got him in, last year:
(bad pics!)

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Those pics are a whole lot more convincing than the pics you posted on page 1...pretty cool stuff...:)

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Originally Posted by sho220

Those pics are a whole lot more convincing than the pics you posted on page 1...pretty cool stuff...:)

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Thanks!

All I'm seeing is a poor pastel right now. But, I'll reserve my judgement on it until the yb female drops.

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I'm loving the intense white around the black stripes and the flames. The colors are really intense on this guy.

Just because its not a green or obvious morph ball Python doesnt mean it doesn't have something a little extra going on. Fire looks very normal to me :)

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Originally Posted by kilopular

I'm loving the intense white around the black stripes and the flames. The colors are really intense on this guy.

Just because its not a green or obvious morph ball Python doesnt mean it doesn't have something a little extra going on. Fire looks very normal to me :)

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Bingo!