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  • 01-13-2014, 11:30 PM
    Gerardo
    Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    Im going to start off by saying that i feed live. When I see my snakes eat it makes me feel good watching them because they are going to grow and be healthy. But for some reason i dont really like watching feeding videos. Does anybody else feel that way?
  • 01-13-2014, 11:37 PM
    Daybreaker
    I don't dislike them because I don't watch them: call me a softy but I'd just prefer to not watch. I have to feed two of my snakes live and that's good enough for me!
  • 01-13-2014, 11:39 PM
    NH93
    I like watching feeding videos of f/t feedings, because I can focus on the power and 'form' of the snake, rather than what I percieve to be the stress of a mouse or rat. I don't (can't) watch live though. I also don't feed live either, so there ya go.
  • 01-13-2014, 11:56 PM
    h20hunter
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    I like them both....f/t and live. I find it very interesting. Snakes gotta eat.
  • 01-14-2014, 12:03 AM
    Doggey75
    I have no problem at all watching feeding videos. Its pretty much the same thing as feeding your own snake.
  • 01-14-2014, 12:11 AM
    Kodieh
    Well, here's how I think about it. This is what really intrigues me about snakes.

    With no arms, no hands, no legs, no fingers, and no toes, a snake is able to kill, bite, and swallow an entire rat.

    Mind blown.
  • 01-14-2014, 12:19 AM
    asmodeus
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    I don't like a lot of the comments that they elicit. Seems to always be a polarizing subject matter on YouTube.

    Sent from a happy snake owner.
  • 01-14-2014, 12:20 AM
    Expensive hobby
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    I love feeding videos, especially of hots or large constrictors(+20' or so).

    The power is something that demands respect and I love that.


    I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop
  • 01-14-2014, 12:27 AM
    Bluebonnet Herp
    Kind of what Kodieh said, although I'm less enthusiastic about them. Watching snakes feed can be boring sometimes, which is why I don't always stick around to watch my own snakes once they start eating.
    What's awesome are videos that show how even these legless creatures are quite mobile. Something about watching them get around is hypnotic.
  • 01-14-2014, 12:49 AM
    bigt0006
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    I dont mind them the ones that intrest me the most are hots feeding videos because i dont own hots and it intresting watching them eat

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  • 01-14-2014, 12:53 AM
    Gerardo
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kodieh View Post
    Well, here's how I think about it. This is what really intrigues me about snakes.

    With no arms, no hands, no legs, no fingers, and no toes, a snake is able to kill, bite, and swallow an entire rat.

    Mind blown.

    I agree 100%. Thats why i enjoy watching MY snake eat. Idont know why i dont really like watching feeding videos. Sometimes i watch just to see how other peoples snakes eating habits are.
  • 01-14-2014, 02:01 AM
    Inarikins
    Just don't go into the comments section. I don't go out of my way to watch them but if I'm just going through videos on youtube and find one, I'll watch it. If the person starts in with the stupid comments, abuses the live feeder, or has loud music blasting in the background, I exit out of it.
  • 01-14-2014, 02:16 AM
    steve_r34
    its one of the things that amazed me about snakes and lizards growing up .. the hunt .. to be honest i hate feeding my snake in the tub its to easy .. i love the hunt just how it zones in and creeps up and bam .. one of the reasons i was always attracted to reptiles .. i feel bad sometime for the prey especially when it starts screaming .. ahh that kills me .. but i knew what i was doing when i got into this ..

    anyway on topic but off .. my ideal snake room is going to be its own room set up like a dam jungle .. im gonna have my bp's on display a little pound trees all that .. and feeding time is gonna happen like im watching tv ... set rat free .. set snake free sit on bean bag and watch the hunt .. might sound crazy to u .. but that would be my favorite place in the world
  • 01-14-2014, 04:11 AM
    DVirginiana
    My BP will only eat live, but my other reptiles will take everything f/t. I like feeding videos for the educational value, since they really were helpful in getting some of my 'problem animals' eating and also when I first started keeping reptiles. I don't especially enjoy watching live feeds but I always watch until the snake gets everything down just in case there is a rodent bite or something I need to deal with. It's neat to actually see them hunt live though. I have one guy who eats f/t who will literally just hold his mouth open for the food. Cute, but not that interesting.

    Ugh. The comments on feeding videos are ridiculous.
  • 01-14-2014, 04:20 AM
    Bluebonnet Herp
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by steve_r34 View Post
    its one of the things that amazed me about snakes and lizards growing up .. the hunt .. to be honest i hate feeding my snake in the tub its to easy .. i love the hunt just how it zones in and creeps up and bam .. one of the reasons i was always attracted to reptiles ..

    Yes, the hunt is the best thing. A legless animal, the serpent that inspired the dragons of mythology, that manages to methodically hunt and kill its prey, silently and swiftly with the tactics of an assassin. This is the awe inspiring serpent, an animal so surreal, yet it is not a beast of fiction. This is the snake.
    Probably the most unusual, yet most beautiful, animal of the sub-phylum Vertebrata, if not the whole Animal Kingdom.
  • 01-14-2014, 04:35 AM
    Expensive hobby
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pythonminion View Post
    Yes, the hunt is the best thing. A legless animal, the serpent that inspired the dragons of mythology, that manages to methodically hunt and kill its prey, silently and swiftly with the tactics of an assassin. This is the awe inspiring serpent, an animal so surreal, yet it is not a beast of fiction. This is the snake.
    Probably the most unusual, yet most beautiful, animal of the sub-phylum Vertebrata, if not the whole Animal Kingdom.

    Gymnothorax tile are pretty amazing as well as all "moray" eels with their pharyngeal jaw. Pretty cool stuff, and very snake like.


    I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop
  • 01-14-2014, 05:57 AM
    Pythonfriend
    i dont particularly like feeding videos, they just dont do anything for me. except maybe when its a video explaining how to get them to feed, and the feed scedule and stuff, or a tutoral on when and how to assist feed or something.

    i prefer videos where they just show nice freshly-shed BPs and explain things about breeding and keeping them and about the genetics.

    but its a matter of taste.

    for example, i also dont like egg cutting videos, you just dont see much except veins and egg white, but i do like it when people show off clutches of hatchlings, after they are out of the egg or post 1st shed.
  • 01-14-2014, 09:33 AM
    John1982
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Expensive hobby View Post
    I love feeding videos, especially of hots or large constrictors(+20' or so).

    The power is something that demands respect and I love that.


    I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop

    You're leading a precarious existence if you think a snake needs to be venomous or over 20 feet to demand respect.
  • 01-14-2014, 10:07 AM
    200xth
    Depends. I generally don't watch videos of people feeding their own snakes. I can watch mine eat for that.

    Snake's eating in nature is different. I've always been fascinated by what they can eat. You look at the animal, you look at the snake...no way is that fitting. Then suddenly there's this amazing transformation and the animal is soon a lump in the snake's belly. No hands, no tools....just an amazing feat of muscle control and...stretchiness (for lack of better word).

    The smaller ones are interesting too. A lot of them don't constrict and aren't venomous so they just overpower and swallow...live and whole. Even something as non-grand as a northern water snake eating a frog can be interesting to see. How something with just a mouth and a tube of muscles can catch, overpower and swallow whole a live animal without killing it first just fascinates me for some reason.
  • 01-14-2014, 10:38 AM
    Expensive hobby
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by John1982 View Post
    You're leading a precarious existence if you think a snake needs to be venomous or over 20 feet to demand respect.

    I said I love the power that snakes such as those demand, like on a level light years above a big BCC or Yellow Anaconda.

    Trust me, my 12'+ 35lb yellow girl demands respect and I know she could kill me if she caught me right and I was alone, but even she is nowhere close to the power of a huge retic or green girl, or venomous for that matter.

    And I respect all my snakes as well, but that level of power is awe inspiring!


    I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop
  • 01-14-2014, 10:47 AM
    jason_ladouceur
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    After 20+ years of keeping reptiles I've seen everything from gaboons eating rabbits to cribos eating bp's and everything in between in person. To be honest I find feeding videos about as interesting as watching the dog eat kibble now lol.
  • 01-14-2014, 11:08 AM
    h20hunter
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    Here is a bit of a different tilt to this. I've already chimed in on liking to watch them but being still quite new it is safe to say the "newness" hasn't worn off. With the holidays behind us my son and I had the chance to introduce many in our family to our bp. We talked about the feeding (f/t) and where we get our rats and even how they are dispatched and cared for. Typically, the non snake folks just say "oh thats gross". After handling the snake, talking about the feeding process, talking about how amazing it is that this animal has evolved to eat once a week (in my house), get everything from one meal, and to eat something so large compared to its head, etc. Its not gross at all. It is fascinating and when the feeding display if you will is used for education you end up going from "oh that is gross" to "oh that is amazing".

    Anyway....just another angle.
  • 01-14-2014, 11:14 AM
    Pythonfriend
    its actually quite clean, compared to the table manners of a cat :)

    i once watched a cat eat a mouse right next to me.... the sounds alone are quite nasty, the way they crush the skull and the bones. they eat everything, except for the fur and the intestines, so in the end you are left with a small pile of bloody intestine and a piece of fur.

    by comparison, the way snakes feed is really clean.

    but it still does nothing for me.
  • 01-14-2014, 11:43 AM
    Awaiting Abyss
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pythonfriend View Post
    its actually quite clean, compared to the table manners of a cat :)

    i once watched a cat eat a mouse right next to me.... the sounds alone are quite nasty, the way they crush the skull and the bones. they eat everything, except for the fur and the intestines, so in the end you are left with a small pile of bloody intestine and a piece of fur.

    by comparison, the way snakes feed is really clean.

    but it still does nothing for me.

    No cats eat everything. They leave nithing behind. Fur is needed for digestion. Its about the same as a snake except cats crunch the bones.
  • 01-14-2014, 11:50 AM
    Pythonfriend
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Awaiting Abyss View Post
    No cats eat everything. They leave nithing behind. Fur is needed for digestion. Its about the same as a snake except cats crunch the bones.

    maybe that cat was a picky eater, ive seen it with my own eyes.
  • 01-14-2014, 12:46 PM
    Darkbird
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jason_ladouceur View Post
    After 20+ years of keeping reptiles I've seen everything from gaboons eating rabbits to cribos eating bp's and everything in between in person. To be honest I find feeding videos about as interesting as watching the dog eat kibble now lol.

    Kind of in the same boat, except just a hair under 20 years keeping and I probably haven't seen as much neat stuff. It's not that I don't like feeding vids, just have plenty of my own to watch, at least when they'll let me.
  • 01-14-2014, 01:10 PM
    iCandiBallPythons
    I could care less about them, I feed alot of ball pythons every week
  • 01-14-2014, 01:11 PM
    satomi325
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    I'm indifferent as long as it wasn't done in malicious intent. I.E people feeding off an animal on purpose for fun or saying how 'bad ass destroying that dumb nasty rat was' and BS like that.

    Both the snake and feeder should be respected. I respect the beauty, tact, and some times savagery a predator has when killing its prey. Its fascinating to witness. And I also respect the feeder who gives its life to keep my predators happy and healthy animals.

    With that said, I do have feeding videos of my ferrets killing live mice, rats, chicken, and ducks. The technique they use is rather interesting, but common. They strive to grab their prey by the back of the neck to snap and break. Its quite interesting to watch them. Sometimes they pack together to down a prey. Sometimes the group watches as one individual makes the kill.

    I don't make or watch videos to see a prey die. I make and watch these feeding videos to witness the amazing physical and mental abilities of these predators.


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  • 01-14-2014, 01:16 PM
    simplysalamander
    I get tired of feeding videos. After so many years of feeding reptiles the novelty wears off. It is dissappointing when I'm trying to learn about a species that is new (to me) and all I can find are video clips of it swallowing some prey items. I'd much rather see general handling, how the animal hooks, or just have some keeper talk about advanced husbandry or any issues they have had keeping the species. I do watch my own snake eat very carefully however and I consider it a part of his visual health check- it's a good way to see the inside of his mouth without stressing him.
  • 01-14-2014, 02:02 PM
    Gerardo
    Reading all the comments made me think why i dont really like feeding videos. While some are for educational purposes ive seen too many videos made for the "cool" factor. I guess it bothers me how some people treat feeders. And some videos are kinda brutal. Watching a tegu kill and eat a rat was something else. I get it that they need to eat but just feels weird watching it.
  • 01-14-2014, 02:20 PM
    Thalasuchus
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pythonfriend View Post
    its actually quite clean, compared to the table manners of a cat :)

    i once watched a cat eat a mouse right next to me.... the sounds alone are quite nasty, the way they crush the skull and the bones. they eat everything, except for the fur and the intestines, so in the end you are left with a small pile of bloody intestine and a piece of fur.

    by comparison, the way snakes feed is really clean.

    but it still does nothing for me.

    I've never seen my cats eat mice, but feeding F/T pinkies and the occasional fuzzy to my water dragon was, in comparison to snakes, much messier. Especially since he always shook it, which often resulted in half a pinky flying across the enclosure and nasty little guts everywhere... Not to mention the crunching bones.

    Anyway I prefer not to watch live feeding videos just because I don't like watching the prey die (I feed my BP F/T). But I agree with Satomi and Gerardo about people filming their snakes feeding with a disrespectful attitude towards the prey animal, and because so many people make those videos to show off their cool killer pet :/ Snakes are definitely impressive, but I get the feeling most people film feedings for the wrong reasons, if that makes sense?
  • 01-14-2014, 02:46 PM
    Pythonfriend
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gerardo View Post
    And some videos are kinda brutal. Watching a tegu kill and eat a rat was something else. I get it that they need to eat but just feels weird watching it.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Thalasuchus View Post
    I've never seen my cats eat mice, but feeding F/T pinkies and the occasional fuzzy to my water dragon was, in comparison to snakes, much messier. Especially since he always shook it, which often resulted in half a pinky flying across the enclosure and nasty little guts everywhere... Not to mention the crunching bones.

    yep, these are nasty. they grab the rat, shake it, violently slam it against the wall or against the ground repeatedly, let it go, grab it again, slam it into the wall some more, let it go, step on it with one leg, grab it, try to pull it apart.... basically they dont leave a bone unbroken. combine that with live feeding and its really gruesome.
  • 01-14-2014, 03:09 PM
    CrazySnakeLady0
    I can handle feeding videos, it's the pre kill videos I can't watch.
  • 01-14-2014, 05:22 PM
    gilaman
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    I dislike them because they give fuel to the animal rights activists who are using their enormous resources to deny us the right to keep the animals we love. They perpetuate and exacerbate the fear of snakes that so many people have. While irrational, the number of people who fear snakes is far greater than the number of people who love them, and we should always be mindful of that. I'm not saying that it's right, but you'd be amazed at how many people would think those who make or watch such video are sadistic and dangerous. We all have an obligation to protect our right to keep these magnificent creatures and posting such videos is contrary to that cause.
  • 01-14-2014, 06:08 PM
    Expensive hobby
    Re: Does anybody dislike feeding videos?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CrazySnakeLady0 View Post
    I can handle feeding videos, it's the pre kill videos I can't watch.

    Haha what?! You don't like seeing previously killed rodents being fed to snakes? Or do you mean the killing?

    I use cervical dislocation and have killed hundreds of mice/rats this way in a short amount of time. Aside from residual nerve function I assure you they are dead as a door knob immoderately. Legs kick like crazy but that's it. No breathing, no heartbeat, no brain function. Just nerves going nuts.


    I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop
  • 01-14-2014, 09:27 PM
    CrazySnakeLady0
    No no! Haha the how to pre kill a rat/mice videos I cannot watch haha. F/T or pre kill feeding I can watch. Considering I've got 2 snakes, plus fostering 1 who eat live and F/T, that's a good thing haha
  • 01-14-2014, 11:05 PM
    Badgemash
    There are too many morons out there making those kinds of videos for the wrong reasons. Besides, I'm not sure why I'd want to watch videos of something I watch dozens of times a week in person? I suppose it would be neat to see how the hots and other species do things, but if I want to see that I tend to go more for nat geo type clips since their cameras/slow motion/editing are much higher quality than what the average person has access to.
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