Will snakes die in Florida?

I read it hit 19 degrees in Florida, so do you guys think we will see some dead burmese or other invasive animals? I think I remember reading about a cold snap before that killed a bunch of snakes.

My husband and I were discussing that. We figure Mother Nature will end up killing more of them than the hunt did.

How far south are the freezing temps supposed to go?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by bcr229

My husband and I were discussing that. We figure Mother Nature will end up killing more of them than the hunt did.

How far south are the freezing temps supposed to go?

---

Not far enough, here in Orlando the low is around 40 degrees. Still pretty low for reptiles, but down in south florida the low is in the mid 50's tonight.

Winter is killing them, and honestly most reports are greatly overstated. I spend a lot of time in south florida and have yet to see a single living Burm.

Seeing temps below 30 is pretty much unheard-of in central/south Florida, honestly temps below 40 are rare, and even those temps are just at night. Tomorrow it is supposed to be back up to the low to mid 70's.

There were reports a few years ago of an abnormally cold winter and iguanas falling out of the trees because they were so cold.
I also read a study of large snakes where they had a split outdoor/indoor enclosure. They knew how to get inside/outside, but had no idea to get inside and stay inside when the temp dropped. The researchers had to bring the snakes indoors each morning because they were to cold to move. So it was proven that they don't know to seek shelter from inclement weather (brumate). I imagine that if they don't die from freezing directly, they will be easy prey to predators, and their immune system will be compromised as well.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by aldebono

There were reports a few years ago of an abnormally cold winter and iguanas falling out of the trees because they were so cold.
I also read a study of large snakes where they had a split outdoor/indoor enclosure. They knew how to get inside/outside, but had no idea to get inside and stay inside when the temp dropped. The researchers had to bring the snakes indoors each morning because they were to cold to move. So it was proven that they don't know to seek shelter from inclement weather (brumate). I imagine that if they don't die from freezing directly, they will be easy prey to predators, and their immune system will be compromised as well.

---

That's exactly what I read before. If any thing winter is controlling their populations or destroying it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by aldebono

There were reports a few years ago of an abnormally cold winter and iguanas falling out of the trees because they were so cold.
I also read a study of large snakes where they had a split outdoor/indoor enclosure. They knew how to get inside/outside, but had no idea to get inside and stay inside when the temp dropped. The researchers had to bring the snakes indoors each morning because they were to cold to move. So it was proven that they don't know to seek shelter from inclement weather (brumate). I imagine that if they don't die from freezing directly, they will be easy prey to predators, and their immune system will be compromised as well.

---

The estimate I saw was a 90% kill off in the last cold snap. Most of the feral Burmese are from Vietnam. Google the weather there and it becomes obvious why they don't know how to seek shelter. They never see those temps or anything even close to them! In 50 years they're going to spread up to southern Ohio? I don't hardly think so!!

Even seeking shelter isnt going to prevent pretty much all of these animals from getting severe RIs down there. If they dont have access to normal temperatures for more then a week those that get RIs are surely dead.

Will most assuredly kill a fair amount of them at least.

It won't kill all of them, though, and the ones that survive will be able to start reproducing again...and some of their offspring will probably be better able to handle cold snaps in the future.

I think if anything it'll do the opposite. It will kill the weak snakes, leaving the larger and healthier snakes to reproduce.

cold = super snakes :S

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rickys_Reptiles

cold = super snakes :S

---

And the burm conspiracy evolves... ;)

Next thing we're going to hear in the news is that burms are growing fur at which point they're going to start new fashion trend. Lol.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Misha

And the burm conspiracy evolves... ;)

Next thing we're going to hear in the news is that burms are growing fur at which point they're going to start new fashion trend. Lol.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk

---

Oooo! I want a burm fur coat!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rickys_Reptiles

I think if anything it'll do the opposite. It will kill the weak snakes, leaving the larger and healthier snakes to reproduce.

cold = super snakes :S

---

Actually what I was hearing after the last cold snap was that the larger snakes were dying. The larger snakes with more body mass were not able to warm up to a decent temperature during the day and so were perishing, while the smaller snakes with less mass WERE able to warm up during the day and so they survived. It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out over the next 20 years or so.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Misha

And the burm conspiracy evolves... ;)

Next thing we're going to hear in the news is that burms are growing fur at which point they're going to start new fashion trend. Lol.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk

---

I'm gonna get one and cross it with a scaless. A scaleless, wooly python.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by MarkS

Actually what I was hearing after the last cold snap was that the larger snakes were dying. The larger snakes with more body mass were not able to warm up to a decent temperature during the day and so were perishing, while the smaller snakes with less mass WERE able to warm up during the day and so they survived. It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out over the next 20 years or so.

---

This just means they will not live very long. The only small pythons in the Neverglades are the young ones. As far as anyone knows, there's no evidence of dwarfing genes in the Florida population.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant

Winter is killing them, and honestly most reports are greatly overstated. I spend a lot of time in south florida and have yet to see a single living Burm.

---

Sums up my thoughts on this. As usual, the environmental alarmists are always wrong. The snakes are not going to be dying off in vast numbers because they are not there in vast numbers.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by 200xth

I'm gonna get one and cross it with a scaless. A scaleless, wooly python.

---

lol
So what you'll have then is essentially a dog or cat tail that has a head and crawls around, or a scarf with a face. Sounds fashionable.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Misha

And the burm conspiracy evolves... ;)

Next thing we're going to hear in the news is that burms are growing fur at which point they're going to start new fashion trend. Lol.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk

---

Not fur, feathers. I also heard that they found a small one that appeared to have developed small front limbs. In a few generations they will be able to fly. Soon we will have 30 foot warm blooded feather covered flying snakes...dear god the humanity

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KING JAMES

Not fur, feathers. I also heard that they found a small one that appeared to have developed small front limbs. In a few generations they will be able to fly. Soon we will have 30 foot warm blooded feather covered flying snakes...dear god the humanity

---

there are genetically modified pets now. its on the rise. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GloFish

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by pythonminion

lol
So what you'll have then is essentially a dog or cat tail that has a head and crawls around, or a scarf with a face. Sounds fashionable.

---

Move over Snuggie. It's time for Scarf With A Face.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pythonfriend

there are genetically modified pets now. its on the rise. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GloFish

---

That's crazy... I didn't know this was a thing.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk