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List of Boa constrictor Sub-Species and Localities
I am posting this in an effort to save the information where others can also readily view it. I've had so many folks ask me what's the difference between a sub-species and locality and/or ask "what kind of boa do I have??" What I would love to have all of you help me with is to post a picture of your Sub-Species or locality-specific boa here in this thread.
This list is as complete as I can make it. And please note: we are dealing with Species, Sub-Species, and Localities here - NOT morphs.
Hopefully, this thread can then be used to help people identify their boa and provide some insight to how this species is divided.
Boa Constrictor Sub-Species and Localities
A listing of the sub-species belonging to the Boa Genus; scientific name and abbreviation is given along with accepted regional (locality) and “common” names.
Boa constrictor melanogaster does not appear on this list because it was reclassified as Boa constrictor constrictor.
Boa constrictor constrictor (BCC)–
◾Surinamese
1.Pokigron
◾Guyanese
◾Venezuelan
1.Apure
2.Bolivar
◾Brazilian
◾Belem
◾Peruvian
1.Iquitos
2.Pucallpa
◾Trinidad
◾Colombian
Boa constrictor imperator (BCI)–
◾Colombian
1.Barranquilla
2.Peters Type B
◾Honduran
1.Hog Island
2.Roatan (Firebelly)
◾Mexican
1.Tarahumara Mountains
2.Sonoran
3.Tamaulipas
4.Cancun
◾Belize
1.Crawl Cay
2.Caulker Cay
◾Nicaraguan
1.Corn Island
◾Costa Rican
◾Panamanian
◾Ecuadorian
◾El Salvadorian
◾Venezuelan
1.Paraguayan Peninsula Boa
Boa constrictor longicauda (BCL)–
◾Peruvian
1.Peruvian Long Tail Boa(Tumbes Boa)
Boa constrictor occidentalis (BCO)–
◾Argentina
1.Argentine Boa
Boa constrictor orophias (BCO)–
◾Island St. Lucia
1.St. Lucia’s Boa
Boa constrictor ortonii (BCO)–
◾Peruvian
1.Macanche Boa
Boa constrictor nebulosa (BCN)–
◾Island Dominica
1.Clouded Boa
Boa constrictor sabogae (BCS)–
◾Panamanian
1.Pearl Island Boa
Boa constrictor amarali (BCA) –
◾Brazilian
1.Sao Paulo
◾Bolivian
1.Short Tail Boas
2.Silverback
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Ok - I know some of you have some of these awesome sub-species!! Don't let me down - post those pictures!! ;)
I'll help - here's a few to get you guys started.....
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This is awesome Kali! Great idea for those of us who get confused easily about BCO/BCI/BCC etc. :)
I suspect Daybreaker and Gio will make appearances. ;)
Auto-vote for sticky!!
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Boa Constrictor Imperator, Hog Island Boa.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/21/du2edese.jpg
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Barranquilla Colombian BCI.
This locality is said to be what a natural cross between a BCC and a BCI would look like according to Vin Russo.
The scale counts differ from "common" Colombian BCI'S. These boas display almost perfect circles down their backs and often have ladder tails.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC00372.jpg
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This is a great help! I just picked up my first bci a few weeks ago and I'm interested in learning more about the whole boa species. thank you!!
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I only have one male boa with no recent pictures. Maybe I will get another one after seeing @Daybreaker `s photos... :D
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/22/py5yzehe.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/22/a3u9aga7.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/22/ypujy3y4.jpg
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Gorgeous pictures everyone!!!
While I LOVE seeing pictures of the Colombian morphs, lets try to keep this to the specific localities and sub-species. Eventually, I'd like to start a thread for the morphs too, but I wanted this particular thread to help people identify the various sub-species and subsequent localities without the added confusion of the vast number of morphs involved, lol.
A huge THANK YOU to everyone who has contributed with pictures! Let's see more awesomeness posted up! :gj:
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Every one of you should be ashamed of yourselves for rubbing your gorgeous boas in my face. Especially daybreaker, who posted the best example of Hog Island color change I've ever seen!
Seriously though, gorgeous animals, all of them. Thanks for sharing. If it weren't for the fact that IBD absolutely TERRIFIES me, I would love to have a Hog Island or Dumeril myself.
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Okay what kind of boa is this?!? He is freaking gorgeous! :D he looks like a piece of candy! What is the name of this morph? By the way I love this thread! I'm not well versed in boa stuff at all so this thread helps a lot! I'd love to own a beautiful boa some day.
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Originally Posted by AlexisFitzy
Okay what kind of boa is this?!? He is freaking gorgeous! :D he looks like a piece of candy! What is the name of this morph? By the way I love this thread! I'm not well versed in boa stuff at all so this thread helps a lot! I'd love to own a beautiful boa some day.
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Thank you so much for your compliments! This is a male sunglow motley boa. I just got him (my first boa) this summer. I would highly recommend a boa if you are looking for a mid size snake that is fun to handle and easy/tame for beginners. I will upload more photos in the new year.
Happy Holidays!
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List of Boa constrictor Sub-Species and Localities
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Omg what a cute little face!! Ah this thread is killing me, I have got to get a boa soon. They are just too beautiful to resist! Thank you so much for sharing your little cutie :) loving all the gorgeous boas on here!
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Wah, I read right over where it said to hold off on morphs: if a mod wants to edit my post to make it more relevant to the thread's topic feel free to edit.
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Well I had no idea that there was more to the Colombians than just well... Colombian, haha. So is it that there are "Colombian" boas, and then there are "Colombian Barranquilla" and then "Colombian Peters Type B" (meaning there are 3 types of Colombians), or are the "Peters Type B" and "Barranquilla" the two types of Colombian boas? :confusd:
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Also the rare Colombian BCC and the Leticia Colombian BCIs. The Leticia BCI's may actually be Peruvian BCC according to Russo from the book THE COMPLETE BOA CONSTRICTOR. It is possible the said boas from that region were only shipped from there.
Even still, the "common Colombian boa" is not always so common.
The Barranquilla Colombian boa: Seen here,
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC00712.jpg
often resembles some of the "Key West" boas, or actually the other way around as Key West boas are beautiful morphs that look like the Barranquilla locality with some obvious differences.
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Originally Posted by Daybreaker
Wah, I read right over where it said to hold off on morphs: if a mod wants to edit my post to make it more relevant to the thread's topic feel free to edit.
Don't worry about it!! They are just more examples of the various sub-species and the marvelous colors they come in. :D
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Originally Posted by xFenrir
Well I had no idea that there was more to the Colombians than just well... Colombian, haha. So is it that there are "Colombian" boas, and then there are "Colombian Barranquilla" and then "Colombian Peters Type B" (meaning there are 3 types of Colombians), or are the "Peters Type B" and "Barranquilla" the two types of Colombian boas? :confusd:
Barranquilla and Peters Type B are the only 2 known PURE lines of Colombian BCI. Other Colombians (aka, common boas) are not really pure and are of varied or mixed locales.
So the short answer to your question is, yes, there are Colombian, Barranquilla Colombian, and Peters Type B Colombian BCI. :gj:
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Any more progress on this?
It would be nice if they could refine the thread and get the pics with the label and make it a sticky thread.
I love the locality boas!!
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That was my goal Gio. I'm a bit disappointed to see the lack of interest. I thought it would be a valuable tool - especially since we all get asked the question so often.....
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That was my goal Gio. I'm a bit disappointed to see the lack of interest. I thought it would be a valuable tool - especially since we all get asked the question so often.....
Yes, sort of a bummer. I wish I could help more but I'm a 1 boa, 1 royal and 2 dogs guy. The last 3 won't work for this thread LOL!
I had visions of a photo layout like the Russo book only the animals would be from the people here.
I think its a great idea,,,, COME ON FOLKS,,,,,, there's gotta be some more locality boa owners here!
Don't let this thread die.
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More detail on the Barranquilla, Colombian BCI. If this thread comes together pick one of my 3 photos (2 are posted in other responses) and use whatever you think is the best one.
These are pics from the summer. This snake has hit a growth spurt which is a bit odd this time of year, so if I post any more, the size difference will be obvious.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC00235.jpg
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Absolutley LOVE this thread! Great info and great pics!!!
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Thank you for posting up your Tarahumara!! Very awesome snake!
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Thank you for posting up your Tarahumara!! Very awesome snake!
I will say X2!
Keep them coming!
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Boa Constrictor Occidentalis (normal Argentine female)
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4ebe1701.jpg
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I can post pictures of my regular ol' common BCI. :P I see all these cool lesser-kept boas but commons are listed too!
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Originally Posted by xFenrir
I can post pictures of my regular ol' common BCI. :P I see all these cool lesser-kept boas but commons are listed too!
Here is the deal with "Common" Colombian boas. They really are not common, or necessarily pure Colombian. This, again is from Gus Renfro, whom I feel has about as much boa knowledge as anybody. The locality Colombians Kali mentioned are traced back to the region where they were caught. Those boas were placed in a captive breeding program in which the goal was to keep the lines pure and therefore only bred boas from that area to others from the same area.
Mind you they have been captive bred for several generations, however in theory there was NO mixing or out crossing from the original dam and sire. Unless they used other boas from the same locality.
The "common boa", if not identified as a locality, has more than likely been bred to other subspecies, morphs or whatever and then given birth and maybe crossed back to another "common boa". It's not a bad thing, but it's more than likely what is out there or what most own unless you have credible info from the breeder.
This is why when people ask about their type of boa and, what they have, nobody can really answer the question.
"Looks like a BCI, but I see some BCC." Or "I see some Central American in it, but it has BCC saddles".
This is ABSOLUTELY NOT a knock on anything considered "common". As a matter of fact some of the huge common boas we see probably have been the product of crossing BCC and BCI somewhere in the linage. Morphs are a prime example, they may have started as Colombian then been crossed with a colorful CA. But now what is it??
So when the topic is "locality" the boas really need to be from the area. Nobody mistakes a true Suri with a Hog Island, because a locality breeder's goal is,,, well,, the locality.
Anybody get what I'm saying here?
BTW xFenrir,,, I think your boa is beautiful!
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Wow! That is beautiful!
Thank you! She's a total sweetheart too.
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This is my new pickup, I still am waiting to get him shipped though.
Hypo Sonoran
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...psc6de07eb.jpg
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Thank you for posting!! That is an awesome snake.... :bow:
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Tpos Nicaraguan
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/30/a8e8y8ar.jpg
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Thanks for posting those guys! Gorgeous animals!
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Wow! That is a smoker!! Really nice.
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I don't know if mine counts but here is my contribution.
Boa dumerili
A female Dumerils Boa. (Hey still a boa right?) :)
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/02/metugypy.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/02/4utujuje.jpg
1.0 Ball Pythons(Twizzler)
1.0 Cat (Loki)
0.1 Dumerils Boa (Cerin)
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Thank you for contributing your Dumerils! You are right - most definitely a boa.
I do want to point out - just for those who may be viewing this thread to make identifications, that Dumerils do not fall under the species Boa constrictor. Their species is Boa dumerili. While, yes, they are in fact a Boa, they are found on a different continent from Boa constictor. Boa constrictor, and all sub-species are found in South American, Mexico, and the surrounding islands. Boa dumerili is found on the African island of Madagascar. ;)
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