UTH installation

Hey everyone, I bought a UTH and I have thermometer with a probe that was given to me. Does the probe for the thermometer go in-between the UTH and the bottom of my terrarium? Or between the surface the terrarium is on and the bottom of the UTH?


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Thermometer or thermostat? The thermometer probe should be under the substrate inside the tank, while the thermostat probe should be between the bottom of the enclosure and the UTH.

Running a UTH without a thermostat runs an exponentially high risk of burns, so invest in one right away if you haven't yet.

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Both probes for the stat and thermometer can go between the mat and glass.
What thermostat are you using??

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

Both probes for the stat and thermometer can go between the mat and glass.
What thermostat are you using??

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I got it all running! and I'm using a zoo med UTH and a zilla thermostat and a zoo med thermometer to test the surface temps


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The probe for the zilla thermostat is way to big to place between tank and mat. Get aluminum tape and tape the pad to the bottom of the tank and tape the probe to the mat it self. Use aluminum foil tape.

run the thermometer inside the tank,dead center of the heat pad. What I did recently,is went out and bought 1/2 length of PVC pipe and 2 90 degree elbows. Cut a piece the height of the tank,then place the elbow on,the cut another piece,the right length so he hen u run the thermometer probe it just makes out to the center of the mat...I'd take a SMALL ,very small piece of aluminum foil tape,make sure the surface is clean dry and tape the probe to the glass. Then cover with substrate. That's how I got my set up and my thermometer probe is very accurate to what my thermostat reads...

the 6' length of PVC and 2 elbows cost me about $7.00

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Originally Posted by Archimedes

Thermometer or thermostat? The thermometer probe should be under the substrate inside the tank, while the thermostat probe should be between the bottom of the enclosure and the UTH.

Running a UTH without a thermostat runs an exponentially high risk of burns, so invest in one right away if you haven't yet.

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Wu tang,go with exactly what he said^

OP, Putting the thermometer probe between the the matt and tank is pointless,doesn't make sense at all. being I newly own a my first couple of ball pythons for only 4 months,I dont know anything about setting a tank up,:cool:,cause it's rocket science...anyway,thermometer probe inside the tank is what you want. Point is,you want to know he temperature of the surface your pet will be laying on,not the bottom/outside of the tank...That's how I look at it.

OP,by the way,my snakes are in there hides 80% of the time and have great sheds and eat like pigs.

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Originally Posted by Archimedes

Thermometer or thermostat? The thermometer probe should be under the substrate inside the tank, while the thermostat probe should be between the bottom of the enclosure and the UTH.

Running a UTH without a thermostat runs an exponentially high risk of burns, so invest in one right away if you haven't yet.

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Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899

Wu tang,go with exactly what he said^

OP, Putting the thermometer probe between the the matt and tank is pointless,doesn't make sense at all. being I newly own a my first couple of ball pythons for only 4 months,I dont know anything about setting a tank up,:cool:,cause it's rocket science...anyway,thermometer probe inside the tank is what you want. Point is,you want to know he temperature of the surface your pet will be laying on,not the bottom/outside of the tank...That's how I look at it.

OP,by the way,my snakes are in there hides 80% of the time and have great sheds and eat like pigs.

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that's how I have it set up right now! 😳 but I could fix it no problem, I also got a thermometer and check the surface where the Mat is and it's right where I have it set. I will fix it though! Thank you man it's working great. Ever since I got it set up he hasn't moved from the spot, even at night he did the normal hunt for food around the tank, and then went right to that spot


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Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899

Wu tang,go with exactly what he said^

OP, Putting the thermometer probe between the the matt and tank is pointless,doesn't make sense at all. being I newly own a my first couple of ball pythons for only 4 months,I dont know anything about setting a tank up,:cool:,cause it's rocket science...anyway,thermometer probe inside the tank is what you want. Point is,you want to know he temperature of the surface your pet will be laying on,not the bottom/outside of the tank...That's how I look at it.

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And how much of a difference do you think there will be? ;)

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

And how much of a difference do you think there will be? ;)

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Probably a whopping 1-2 degrees MAX! With a good digital thermometer. Of coarse this is the same guy that just told the OP to use foil tape inside the tank, when hot glue will work better and is a whole lot safer.

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

And how much of a difference do you think there will be? ;)

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Well let's see,around here on this site,where everyone specifies every little detail,every bit of heat and humidity matters,it will make a big difference...don't be a hypocrite;),guess it's only convenient when ppl just wanna be fussy nitpickers:D,like the difference between a $60 pair of crimps as opposed to a $25 pair,right???? Cause a $25 pair of crimps can't be as good as a $60 par,again,right??:) That's what I thought...

See how adding the wink face and smiley face made my comment so much nicer,lol

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Originally Posted by EntertheWutang

that's how I have it set up right now!  but I could fix it no problem, I also got a thermometer and check the surface where the Mat is and it's right where I have it set. I will fix it though! Thank you man it's working great. Ever since I got it set up he hasn't moved from the spot, even at night he did the normal hunt for food around the tank, and then went right to that spot


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Your welcome man. I had the extra thermostat that's why I mailed it to you,and gave it to you for free ofcourse...just had to throw that out there :)( pit,more smile faces)

the hide doesn't stay same as outside temps since it provides shade,so the pad is def a good thing. I leave my UTH matt set at 89-91 .. Glad it's working for you pal

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Originally Posted by led-zep

Probably a whopping 1-2 degrees MAX! With a good digital thermometer. Of coarse this is the same guy that just told the OP to use foil tape inside the tank, when hot glue will work better and is a whole lot safer.

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Attention: PIT On The Prowl,notice his specific details..specific!!!! About u can only use hot glue to hold down the probe..I been using a tiny piece of aluminum tape for 4 months now and never an issue,never once..but Pitt see the specific details!so yes!it will matter where u place the probe :D:):rolleyes: <~~~~see ;)
Pitt,if I wasn't so lazy right now,I'd take a pic of what mine looks like and how DANGEROUS it can be too my snake,lol...maybe tommorow..I'll inbox to you..downlow man,downlow...

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Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899

Attention: PIT On The Prowl,notice his specific details..specific!!!! About u can only use hot glue to hold down the probe..I been using a tiny piece of aluminum tape for 4 months now and never an issue,never once..but Pitt see the specific details!so yes!it will matter where u place the probe :D:):rolleyes: <~~~~see ;)
Pitt,if I wasn't so lazy right now,I'd take a pic of what mine looks like and how DANGEROUS it can be too my snake,lol...maybe tommorow..I'll inbox to you..downlow man,downlow...

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Just because something hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't or won't happen. It's just safer not to have any adhesive inside the cage, just to be on the safe side. Why even take the risk when there is a safer alternative? Just because you have been doing something for four months, doesn't make you an expert. I have seen you twice use this particular time frame to imply that you have been doing something for "four months" and it's "not broken" so it must be right.....?

I have only been keeping ball pythons for 1 1/2 years, and in no way form or fashion do I consider my self an expert. What I have simply done, during my short time of keeping snakes, is to use the information that has been provided to me, and used common sense to try and provide the best habitat possible. Will a tiny piece of tape on the side ever cause harm to your snake, maybe it won't, maybe it will, but why even take the risk? Your ignorance I fear has caused a couple of hi-jacks of an OP's threads and I feel this is a direct result of the information you are posting. It's my honest opinion you are not doing this community any good.

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Originally Posted by martin82531

Just because something hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't or won't happen. It's just safer not to have any adhesive inside the cage, just to be on the safe side. Why even take the risk when there is a safer alternative? Just because you have been doing something for four months, doesn't make you an expert. I have seen you twice use this particular time frame to imply that you have been doing something for "four months" and it's "not broken" so it must be right.....?

I have only been keeping ball pythons for 1 1/2 years, and in no way form or fashion do I consider my self an expert. What I have simply done, during my short time of keeping snakes, is to use the information that has been provided to me, and used common sense to try and provide the best habitat possible. Will a tiny piece of tape on the side ever cause harm to your snake, maybe it won't, maybe it will, but why even take the risk? Your ignorance I fear has caused a couple of hi-jacks of an OP's threads and I feel this is a direct result of the information you are posting. It's my honest opinion you are not doing this community any good.

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Agreed!

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Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899

Well let's see,around here on this site,where everyone specifies every little detail,every bit of heat and humidity matters,it will make a big difference...don't be a hypocrite;),guess it's only convenient when ppl just wanna be fussy nitpickers:D,like the difference between a $60 pair of crimps as opposed to a $25 pair,right???? Cause a $25 pair of crimps can't be as good as a $60 par,again,right??:) That's what I thought...

See how adding the wink face and smiley face made my comment so much nicer,lol

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Not to de-rail this thread but seeing that it is on heating and UTH in particular.
I wouldn't want you to think I am a hypocrite I should continue mentoring you so that you do not continue to be as ignorant and foolish as your posts make you seem, wonder if you are the same in the real world?

Put your money where your loud moth is and post up a link to your $25 crimpers that are capable of doing a proper crimp on THG tape. You should know what items are used to attach the wire, you are a smart guy and know how to google.

If you were smart enough to READY posts you would know that there is a no contact thermometer that is what most people use to check the surface temps of their enclosures. Do you really think I have a thermometer in each tub when there are 31 tubs?
Giving advice is a great thing when you know and have knowledge of the subject at hand.

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Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899

Attention: PIT On The Prowl,notice his specific details..specific!!!! About u can only use hot glue to hold down the probe..I been using a tiny piece of aluminum tape for 4 months now and never an issue,never once..but Pitt see the specific details!so yes!it will matter where u place the probe :D:):rolleyes: <~~~~see ;)
Pitt,if I wasn't so lazy right now,I'd take a pic of what mine looks like and how DANGEROUS it can be too my snake,lol...maybe tommorow..I'll inbox to you..downlow man,downlow...

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well, when your snake rolls an edge up on the tape and gets stuck to it, remember that olive oil on a que-tip is a good way to loosen the adhesive on the tape so you don't pull off too many scales. If you have tape inside your enclosure, you'll need this information eventually.

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

Do you really think I have a thermometer in each tub when there are 31 tubs?

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I know that's right! I quit after 5 tubs and went with the infared thermometer.

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Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899

Your welcome man. I had the extra thermostat that's why I mailed it to you,and gave it to you for free ofcourse...just had to throw that out there :)( pit,more smile faces)

the hide doesn't stay same as outside temps since it provides shade,so the pad is def a good thing. I leave my UTH matt set at 89-91 .. Glad it's working for you pal

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Indeed the hide does change things - do you know how it changes in regard to overhead heat sources compared to under tank heating? Or a combination of the two? ;)

I'm glad you helped this person out though. It's pretty much all we want this site to do - give good advice to people who need it.

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Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899

Attention: PIT On The Prowl,notice his specific details..specific!!!! About u can only use hot glue to hold down the probe..I been using a tiny piece of aluminum tape for 4 months now and never an issue,never once..but Pitt see the specific details!so yes!it will matter where u place the probe :D:):rolleyes: <~~~~see ;)
Pitt,if I wasn't so lazy right now,I'd take a pic of what mine looks like and how DANGEROUS it can be too my snake,lol...maybe tommorow..I'll inbox to you..downlow man,downlow...

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Glad in your whole 4 months of experience your tape hasn't been a problem yet.

In my 20 years experience I can assure you it will be one day.

But hey, I'm sure you know better. :rofl:

Just remember Mark's advice when the inevitable happens. We will still be willing to help. The snake mainly.

Try the search function once in a while - it will make you a better keeper. Also think about getting a temp gun - it really does make spot checking a whole lot easier.

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Originally Posted by MarkS

well, when your snake rolls an edge up on the tape and gets stuck to it, remember that olive oil on a que-tip is a good way to loosen the adhesive on the tape so you don't pull off too many scales. If you have tape inside your enclosure, you'll need this information eventually.

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And aluminum tape is sticky as hell!! I wouldn't even chance that coming in contact with my snake. And I've only been at this a little over a month.

Where's that common sense you speak so much about, NY?

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Originally Posted by MarkS

well, when your snake rolls an edge up on the tape and gets stuck to it, remember that olive oil on a que-tip is a good way to loosen the adhesive on the tape so you don't pull off too many scales. If you have tape inside your enclosure, you'll need this information eventually.

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Having used foil tape for various things over the years, I'm actually less concerned about it getting stuck to an animal than I am about a corner coming up and slicing said animal open. Maybe I'm using heavier gauge foil tape, but I've sliced my fingers enough times to respect the stuff. Neither outcome is great. If you have a probe inside the tank, either use a silicone adhesive or hot glue it down. It's not a matter of IF something goes wrong, it's a matter of WHEN and HOW BAD.

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