My little Dinker

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A wild caught 98g baby. She has had 3 meals so far and doing well. I can't wait to see if she breeds out to be something special.
Has anyone seen anything like this before?
Any suggestions of what to breed her with?
Judging from the large grey areas on her sides, I'm thinking she may be in the BEL group akin to the Mojave. I'm thinking of pairing her with either a Mojave or Lucy (BEL Lesser). I would like to hear YOUR thoguhts.
-Andy

Whoa!!! She is amazing!! Where did you get her from?

She does look similar to a mojave, but her pattern is more...crazy! I love her stripe down her back. Woooow! Love her. I would want to know if that gene is dominant or recessive before pairing her to another dominant I think. Maybe pair her with a normal to see what pops out? But at some point, definitely mojo, cinny, lesser??? So many possibilities.

I have no input on what to breed her to, but she is amazing looking, love the pattern!

Breed her to a normal male, hold back anything that looks like her, if she throws a male that looks like her breed him back to mom a well as to a mohave and lesser female when he matures.

If all she throws are normals hold back a male and breed him back to mom to see if there's a recessive gene in play.

Very nice, I like her a lot! Good luck!

Wow, very crazy looking! I love it!

Wow that's the most impressive dinker I've ever seen!! (My noob opinion) I'd definitely love to see what's in store for her future

Very gorgeous. I really hope she proves out for you!

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Originally Posted by bcr229

Breed her to a normal male, hold back anything that looks like her, if she throws a male that looks like her breed him back to mom a well as to a mohave and lesser female when he matures.

If all she throws are normals hold back a male and breed him back to mom to see if there's a recessive gene in play.

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That's what I would do, very very nice. That pattern is awesome!!

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Originally Posted by bcr229

Breed her to a normal male, hold back anything that looks like her, if she throws a male that looks like her breed him back to mom a well as to a mohave and lesser female when he matures.

If all she throws are normals hold back a male and breed him back to mom to see if there's a recessive gene in play.

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This, and then breed her with a pin. I'd like to see if you can accentuate that stripe on her back. Even if all you end up with are a bunch that look like mom, still a great pattern.

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hatchlings like that are never wild caught.

Your attempt to use your money to put pressure on the wild population of ball pythons has most likely failed.

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Originally Posted by Pythonfriend

hatchlings like that are never wild caught.

Your attempt to use your money to put pressure on the wild population of ball pythons has most likely failed.

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I'm sorry, I seem to have missed your point. Interestingly, I would imagine I'm not the only one. What exactly were you trying to say?

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Awesome looking dinker :) can't wait to see how she looks with some more weight on her. Keep us updated, thanks for sharing :D


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Originally Posted by patientz3ro

I'm sorry, I seem to have missed your point. Interestingly, I would imagine I'm not the only one. What exactly were you trying to say?

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Start with post #20 at the bottom of pg 2:
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...this-one/page2

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Originally Posted by Pythonfriend

hatchlings like that are never wild caught.

Your attempt to use your money to put pressure on the wild population of ball pythons has most likely failed.

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I'm sorry hatchings like what? With a different pattern or different coloration? If that is truly the case where do you believe ball python morphs come from?

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She is cool! I know I want to be in the list for purchase :)

She's super cool! Can't wait to see her at 1000+ grams

Now this is the kind of dink that I can get behind!
Personally, I'd bypass breeding her to a normal male, depending on what you choose there is a high possibility that you'll end up with some normals anyway and why waste a clutch on that! I'd go for a Black Pastel or Leopard but if you're really invested in your theory about this being BEL complex, a Mojave or Lesser/Butter would be the better options.

Awesome dinker! Lets breed our together and make a Super Dinker, :P Keep us posted on the progress.

I would definitely say she may be in the mojave or mystic/phantom family for sure, I would breed her to a mystic/phantom or mojave to prove her allelic. She may be one of these morphs with something special thrown in as well.

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Originally Posted by jpomeroy

I would definitely say she may be in the mojave or mystic/phantom family for sure, I would breed her to a mystic/phantom or mojave to prove her allelic. ....

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There is a certain resemblance, but two completely independent mutant genes can produce identical appearances. Best to breed her to a normal first and see what happens then. See post #4 in this thread.

She looks kinda dark. Is she getting close to shedding? Beautiful snake.

Very nice dinker project. I would suggest either a black pastel or a yellow belly. Yellow belly always seems to make genes better and accentuate them. Good luck to you.

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She looks kinda dark. Is she getting close to shedding? Beautiful snake.

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She actually, just shed.

Sorry I haven't responded since the original post – I had to deal with some family issues.
Thanks to everyone for all the positive comments.
I have a couple years before she’s ready to breed so I’ll defiantly consider all the suggestions. Even if she isn’t genetic, she’s a beautiful animal.
I am also thinking about breeding her to a pastel or yellowbelly. This type of cross would be like breeding her to a normal but also give me another morph to work into the line - providing it proves out to be genetic.
She doesn’t appear to have any yellow in her. I know the brown alien heads should have yellow, but I’m not seeing it. So I’m thinking maybe I should breed her to a Lavender or Albino. Hopefully I’ll have a male Lavender by the time she is ready to breed.
There’s lots of time to think about this.

the stripe looks similar to what I had pop out (although no idea what it is yet)

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I saw the thread title and was thinking 'oh dinker, sure ok' and then I saw the pic, whoa!

I agree with the x normal pairing with male offspring paired back to mom. You should get a pretty clear answer on the genetic component without muddying the waters with extra genes. Plus if it does prove genetic, and you then hit some kind of awesome super, it will help solidify the value of your cool new gene.

what i tried to say on page one is:

this one is not wild caught. definitively not. and if this would be wild caught, it would be a shame.

i know everyone wants nice balls, nice pythons. but driving down the wild population is not the way to go. just saying. not that i believe this is a wild caught, it is not. this one has never seen the wild, and i demand evidence to the contrary: show me how this is not a captive hatched ball python.

just stop calling it wild caught. okay??

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Originally Posted by Pythonfriend

what i tried to say on page one is:

this one is not wild caught. definitively not. and if this would be wild caught, it would be a shame.

i know everyone wants nice balls, nice pythons. but driving down the wild population is not the way to go. just saying. not that i believe this is a wild caught, it is not. this one has never seen the wild, and i demand evidence to the contrary: show me how this is not a captive hatched ball python.

just stop calling it wild caught. okay??

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theres a lot of snakes that get shipped here from africa to big breeders so they can try and prove out new lines now as far as someone actually catching it in the wild as a hacthling (witch if they have kids mining for dimonds .. i dont see it so far feteched that they have people that go hunting for hatchlings and whatever else they can find to make a buck on ) or they just have a bunch of wild caught snakes that they breed .. its all the same

by the way andy she looks nice id put her with a norm and see what comes back ..

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Originally Posted by Pythonfriend

what i tried to say on page one is:

this one is not wild caught. definitively not. and if this would be wild caught, it would be a shame.

i know everyone wants nice balls, nice pythons. but driving down the wild population is not the way to go. just saying. not that i believe this is a wild caught, it is not. this one has never seen the wild, and i demand evidence to the contrary: show me how this is not a captive hatched ball python.

just stop calling it wild caught. okay??

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Show me your proof that there has been any impact on wild populations of BPs? You're making a lot of assumptions in your post without any supporting data. You may also want to reconsider your tone, as making "demands" is not generally conducive to polite discourse, which is something I appreciate participating in on this forum (compared to the shennanigans that seem to repeatedly play out on some of the other forums).

shame it isn't a male.

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Originally Posted by Pythonfriend

what i tried to say on page one is:

this one is not wild caught. definitively not. and if this would be wild caught, it would be a shame.

i know everyone wants nice balls, nice pythons. but driving down the wild population is not the way to go. just saying. not that i believe this is a wild caught, it is not. this one has never seen the wild, and i demand evidence to the contrary: show me how this is not a captive hatched ball python.

just stop calling it wild caught. okay??

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I've never put anyone, on any forum, on an ignore list. You may be the first. Congrats!

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Originally Posted by Pythonfriend

what i tried to say on page one is:

this one is not wild caught. definitively not. and if this would be wild caught, it would be a shame.

i know everyone wants nice balls, nice pythons. but driving down the wild population is not the way to go. just saying. not that i believe this is a wild caught, it is not. this one has never seen the wild, and i demand evidence to the contrary: show me how this is not a captive hatched ball python.

just stop calling it wild caught. okay??

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You do realize that pretty much every single genetic mutation as well as normals originated in the wild right? They ALL originate from wild caught animals. If you can not accept that then maybe keeping any animals what so ever is not in the books for you.

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I've never put anyone, on any forum, on an ignore list. You may be the first. Congrats!

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Not even me? :googly eyes:

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Originally Posted by bcr229

Breed her to a normal male, hold back anything that looks like her, if she throws a male that looks like her breed him back to mom a well as to a mohave and lesser female when he matures.

If all she throws are normals hold back a male and breed him back to mom to see if there's a recessive gene in play.

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If anything, breed her to one of those normals that they call "Harlequins."
From what I know, if Harlequins had a super form, this would be it. This has be to the one of the coolest patterns on a normal-colored ball I have ever seen. I'm a sucker for stretched dots that ride with a full dorsal stripe down the spine like that. Add the crazy blushing and abnormal pattern... http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/s...asic/drool.gif

I know this is an old thread but wow.

Wow. She great looking all around. Great pick up