Asf's illegal?

I've been looking for asfs in my area and everyone i talk to says they are illegal. Is that really the case?

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Originally Posted by granitestate

I've been looking for asfs in my area and everyone i talk to says they are illegal. Is that really the case?

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Depends on where you are. I know they are illegal in some states, but I'm not sure which ones they are.

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Originally Posted by Crazymonkee

Depends on where you are. I know they are illegal in some states, but I'm not sure which ones they are.

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That's stupid they are just cute little rats. I live in NH, any idea where i can find out?

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I would say look up your states animal laws

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They are illegal in some states because as exotic animals that can multiply fast, they can supposedly do a lot of damage to the native ecosystem and agriculture......Supposedly....

Anyway, loom at your State Department of Fish and Game site.
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Originally Posted by satomi325

They are illegal in some states because as exotic animals that can multiply fast, they can supposedly do a lot of damage to the native ecosystem and agriculture......Supposedly....

Anyway, loom at your State Department of Fish and Game site.
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I have no idea why they would worry about this in New Hampshire. ASF are from the same areas as BP's. They'd never survive the cold there. But they seldom use real facts when making laws. The invasive species status of Burms is partly based on the assumption they could someday inhabit southern Ohio. :weirdface

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Originally Posted by treeboa

I have no idea why they would worry about this in New Hampshire. ASF are from the same areas as BP's. They'd never survive the cold there. But they seldom use real facts when making laws. The invasive species status of Burms is partly based on the assumption they could someday inhabit southern Ohio. :weirdface

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I agree 100% with you.

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New Hampshire State Laws Governing Private Possession of Exotic Animals

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• N.H. CODE ADMIN. R FIS 804 - POSSESSION OF WILDLIFE

PART Fis 802 GENERAL CHAPTER REQUIREMENTS

Fis 802.01 Permittee Categories.

(a) For the purposes of this chapter the permittee categories shall be as follows:

(1) An individual person shall be permittee category 1;

(2) A propagator shall be permittee category 2;

(3) An individual training and shooting permittee shall be category 3.

(4) The person operating a regulated shooting area shall be permittee category 4;

(5) An exhibitor shall be permittee category 5; and

(6) An aquaculturist shall be permittee category 6.

Fis 804.01 Definitions.

(a) "Cage" means an area enclosed on all sides and has a top and a bottom.

(b) "Enclosure" means an area enclosed on all sides.

Fis 804.02 Non-controlled Species - Possession.

(a) A permit to possess wildlife shall not be required for any person to possess wildlife designated as non-controlled as specified in (b), below.

(b) For purposes of this part, the following species or groups of wildlife shall be designated as non-controlled:

(1) Ornamental aquarium fish, both fresh and marine that shall be kept in a closed system;

(2) Amphibians;

(3) Non-venomous reptiles, except the following:

Spotted turtles (Clemmys guttata);

Blanding's turtles (Emydoidea blandingii);

Wood turtles (Clemmys insculpta); and

Eastern box turtles (Terrapene carolina carolina);
(3) The following exotic birds:

Cockatiel (Nymphicus hollandieus)

Canaries (Serinus spp.);

Parrots (Psittaciformes);

Parakeets (Budgerigar) except Monk Parakeet (Myiopsitta monachus);

Mynah Birds (Acridotheres spp);

Finches (Estrildidae spp);

Pekin robin (Leiothrip lutea);

Weavers (Ploceidae);

Toucans (Ramphastidae);

Button quail (Turnicidae);

Pigeons and doves (Columbiformes), exotic; and

Feral pigeons (Columba domestica and C. livia);

Emu (Dromaius novaehollandire);

Ostrich (Struthis camelus);

Rehas (Rheidae);

Waterfowl, exotic migratory except mute swans;

Waterfowl, mallard by individuals in category 1;

Gallinaceous birds, except:
Bobwhite quail, Northern (Colinus virginianus);

Grouse, Ruffed (Bonasa umbellus);

Grouse, Spruce (Dendragapus canadensis);

Pheasant, Ring-necked (Phasianus colchicus);

Partridge, Chuckar and Redleg (Alectoris chuka); and

Partridge, Grey/Hungarian (Perdix perdix);
(4) The following mammals:

Chinchillas, domesticated, (Chinchilla spp);

Gerbils, domesticated;

Guinea Pigs, domesticated (Cavia spp);

Hamsters, domesticated (Cricetus cricetus);

Mice, domesticated (Mus musculus);

Rats, domesticated (Rattus norvegicus and Rattus rattus);

Ferrets, domesticated (Mustela putorius furo);

Llamas (Lama glama);

Alpaca (Lama pacos);

Pot belly pigs, domesticated;

Rabbits, domesticated;

African pigmy hedgehog;

Sugar glider (Petaurus breviceps);

Tenrec (Tenrec ecaudatus); and

Yak (Bos grunniens)
Fis 804.03 Prohibited Species - Possession.

(a) No person shall be issued a permit to possess wildlife that has been designated as prohibited as specified in Fis 804.03(b).

(b) For the purposes of this part, the following species or groups of wildlife shall be designated as prohibited:

(1) The following invertebrates:

Zebra mussel; and

All non-indigenous crayfish; and
(2) The following fish:

Walking catfish (Clarias batrachus);

White amur/grass carp (Ctenopharyngodon idella);

European rudd (Scardinius erythophthalmus); and

Round goby (Neogobius melanostomus); and
(3) Monk Parakeet (Myiopsitta monachus).

Fis 804.04 Permits To Possess Wildlife.

(a) No live wildlife designated as controlled, the eggs or progeny thereof, shall be possessed without a permit to possess wildlife or except as otherwise permitted under RSA 207:1-a, 214:34-d and 209-A:3, IV.

(b) All species not specifically listed under the categories of non-controlled, prohibited or controlled shall be designated as controlled and shall require a permit to possess.

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So i gather that they require a permit?

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Actually taking a second look at that list and reading it carefully i don't believe you do need a permit. Either way i just sent an email to the states wildlife people.

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Good idea!

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In New Hampshire, ASFs (Mastomys natalensis) is a controlled species as it is not listed specifically in the non-controlled list and would, therefore, require a permit.

I wish laws had to be justified and based on the most current and widely accepted scientific research...

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Originally Posted by eatgoodfood

I wish laws had to be justified and based on the most current and widely accepted scientific research...

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Are you saying that the law in New Hampshire is not based on scientific research?

Thanks everyone for the responses. I did just receive the answer...

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At this time it would not be legal to import or possess an African Soft Fur Rat. It currently is not listed on our controlled species table. If you wish to apply for a permit to import and possess this animal you would be required to fill out an application form along with a letter explaining why you would like to possess it and a history of the animal. You would also be required to provide a current health certificate for the animal. The executive director would then look at the application and determine whether it can be imported and possessed. If you have any other questions please feel free to contact me. Thank you.

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I was just curious, every shop I've been to and asked about them gave me a "maybe" when I inquired

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Originally Posted by granitestate

Thanks everyone for the responses. I did just receive the answer...



I was just curious, every shop I've been to and asked about them gave me a "maybe" when I inquired

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Which is the correct answer. It is a maybe because it is legal if you have the proper permits and illegal if you don't. So, maybe you can get approved in the permitting process and you can have a few.

But, more than likely, they just don't know.

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Originally Posted by anatess

Are you saying that the law in New Hampshire is not based on scientific research?

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I would most definitely say so, but I was more referencing in general. The good majority of animal related laws are based on fear and ignorance, not science.

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Originally Posted by eatgoodfood

I would most definitely say so, but I was more referencing in general. The good majority of animal related laws are based on fear and ignorance, not science.

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New Hampshire is one of the better ones. They list the ones they know for sure are okay to have and everything else is a case-by-case basis (which means you can go provide them with scientific research to have one).