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  • 09-20-2013, 03:03 PM
    bpdesign
    New Morph (Yes, it is proven) - Unnamed at this time!
    This is a new morph I am very excited to be working with. I picked up a few girls and am looking forward to (hopefully) breeding two of them this year if they can gain a little weight for me first. What do you think I should breed them to? Here's a picture of one of the girls. More pics to come as they age!http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/...psafe049c5.jpg
  • 09-20-2013, 03:18 PM
    bpdesign
    As of now it is considered dominant and I hope to prove out a super form.
  • 09-20-2013, 03:23 PM
    M&NSnakeDen
    Almost looks a bit clown-ish! Congrats!
    Personally, I'd probably try breeding it with a really reduced Lesser :D
  • 09-20-2013, 06:16 PM
    MarkieJ
    Breed it with a Calico!
  • 09-20-2013, 06:49 PM
    Holtgards
    Pied...
  • 09-20-2013, 07:34 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    That is pretty neat!
  • 09-20-2013, 07:39 PM
    Mephibosheth1
    I think i'm just having a brain burp here, but how do you know it's actually a new morph and not just a slight variation on an old one??

    It looks pretty cool BTW; I like how the light spots look golden...you could call it an Auric morph (after the latin name for gold:P)
  • 09-20-2013, 11:09 PM
    4theSNAKElady
    Re: New Morph (Yes, it is proven) - Unnamed at this time!
    Id like to see its head...

    sent from my incubator
  • 09-21-2013, 03:31 AM
    B.O.S Reptiles
    Re: New Morph (Yes, it is proven) - Unnamed at this time!
    I'd start with a normal! I am not familiar with what produces what (recessive, codom and dom) but if it's truly a new morph, you'll get more or hets, right?? I would also like to know how it was proven to be a new morph. I do not doubt you, I am just curious :)
  • 09-21-2013, 07:23 AM
    Neal
    Yea, I'd also like to know how it's known to be a new morph.
  • 09-21-2013, 07:38 AM
    ball-nut
    Re: New Morph (Yes, it is proven) - Unnamed at this time!
    Looks like a Yellowbelly sibling I hatched last year.
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/21/ytyzabe2.jpg
  • 09-21-2013, 08:20 AM
    sho220
    I hope the crosses look better. Unless I'm missing something, the base "morph" just looks like an aberrant normal...
  • 09-24-2013, 12:29 PM
    bpdesign
    Re: New Morph (Yes, it is proven) - Unnamed at this time!
    The parents were both animals that were suspected to carry a different gene, but were just "normal" with no other known genes. The mother has had two different clutches with these kind of babies hatching out :) To date the only combo is with a Spider. This pattern is definitely 100% genetic.
  • 09-24-2013, 12:35 PM
    sho220
    Re: New Morph (Yes, it is proven) - Unnamed at this time!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bpdesign View Post
    The parents were both animals that were suspected to carry a different gene, but were just "normal" with no other known genes. The mother has had two different clutches with these kind of babies hatching out :) To date the only combo is with a Spider. This pattern is definitely 100% genetic.

    Pics?
  • 09-24-2013, 12:37 PM
    MarcsReptileShed
    Re: New Morph (Yes, it is proven) - Unnamed at this time!
    so than its a normal??
  • 09-24-2013, 01:00 PM
    Freakie_frog
    I'd like to see pics of the parent's before I weigh in.
  • 09-24-2013, 01:05 PM
    DemmBalls
    Re: New Morph (Yes, it is proven) - Unnamed at this time!
    I'd like to see the combo as well.
  • 09-24-2013, 01:14 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Is it a genetic normal cloning itself OR does it actually change pattern/color of other morphs?
    How many seasons did you breed it before claiming a "new" morph?
  • 09-24-2013, 01:18 PM
    T&C Exotics
    Re: New Morph (Yes, it is proven) - Unnamed at this time!
    I see a very pretty reduced pattern animal. I would try to refine it to enhance the back of it to get blackbacks with that reduction in pattern. Just my thoughts but it looks to have potential but does not look like anything more than a really reduced pattern animal and without seeing the parents to the clutch and sibs and all that fun stuff as of right now IMO it is a normal.
  • 09-24-2013, 01:40 PM
    bpdesign
    The adult female has been bred twice that I know of. I'm not going to get incredibly deep into detail about it all because although I have a few animals in this new project, it is not *my* project and out of respect I am only going to post pictures and discuss the animals that I personally have. I do know that the original female has been bred at least twice. Both seasons (I know because I bought the offspring from both seasons) she produced these kind of babies. And no, they're not normal, but if you think they are that is okay. Here is the spider combo. http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/...psbd0f9428.jpg
  • 09-24-2013, 01:43 PM
    T&C Exotics
    Re: New Morph (Yes, it is proven) - Unnamed at this time!
    Now that is showing a little more promise. Please do not thing I was trying to knock the animal or say it is not genetic but with only seeing one it makes it hard to believe that it is genetic. Now after seeing the Spider cross there is a lot less doubt in my mind. I would still like to see it fully blackback.
  • 09-24-2013, 01:47 PM
    Mike41793
    New Morph (Yes, it is proven) - Unnamed at this time!
    Looks like selective breeding to me. I wouldn't call it a new morph. Just my .02cents
  • 09-24-2013, 02:02 PM
    cory9oh4
    Looks cool IMO!
  • 09-24-2013, 02:05 PM
    Neal
    Looks nice, but I'm still not 100% convinced.
  • 09-24-2013, 02:31 PM
    bpdesign
    Re: New Morph (Yes, it is proven) - Unnamed at this time!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tattlife2001 View Post
    Now that is showing a little more promise. Please do not thing I was trying to knock the animal or say it is not genetic but with only seeing one it makes it hard to believe that it is genetic. Now after seeing the Spider cross there is a lot less doubt in my mind. I would still like to see it fully blackback.

    I'm thinking Calico, Black Pastel or Yellow Belly could be really nice. I have two girls with this gene that are breeder size this year and I haven't quite decided what to use. I am hoping to try for a super next year if I get a male from one of these females!
  • 09-24-2013, 02:34 PM
    T&C Exotics
    Re: New Morph (Yes, it is proven) - Unnamed at this time!
    Black Pastel would be my choice of those you said. After that I would go with enchi or a pin.
  • 09-25-2013, 03:28 AM
    irishanaconda
    Dont jump the gun and jinx yourself, but depending if it was a m or f I think it would be nice to mix it in clown for some nice reduced stuff.
  • 09-25-2013, 04:59 PM
    Gerardo
    Hopefully you can get cool babies in the future. Either way it looks pretty cool.
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