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  • 08-18-2013, 02:31 PM
    toyota89
    Large pythons
    I'm looking to get a large snake. Are there any pythons that get over 10 feet long and heavy bodied like a Burmese?


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  • 08-18-2013, 02:39 PM
    Coleslaw007
    Re: Large pythons
    Burmese :D

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  • 08-18-2013, 02:43 PM
    toyota89
    Large pythons
    Other then Burmese, reticulated and scrub.


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  • 08-18-2013, 02:57 PM
    Coleslaw007
    Re: Large pythons
    There's the African rock python, the Indian python (not super common,) and if it doesn't *have* to be a python, anacondas.

    May I ask why you want a large snake but specifically *not* a burmese?

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  • 08-18-2013, 02:59 PM
    Raven01
    Re: Large pythons
    Indian Python, Scrub Python/Amethystine Python, Green Anaconda, Reticulated Python are the ones that jump to mind.
    Very few people keep African Rock Pythons and the Scrub/Amethystines might be hard to find as well.
  • 08-18-2013, 03:03 PM
    toyota89
    Re: Large pythons
    Because burns retics scrub and anacondas are illegal in NY. I'm getting a bhp but they aren't heavy bodied.

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  • 08-18-2013, 03:07 PM
    toyota89
    Re: Large pythons
    As of March 15, 2005 New York State increased the list of banned species that private owners are allowed to possess without special permits. Listed below are the current list of regulated animals.

    * Snakes
    o All venomous species as determined by the DEC
    o Burmese Python (Python m. bivittatus)
    o Reticulated Python (Python reticulatus)
    o African Rock Python (Python sabae)
    o Green Anaconda (Eunectes maurinus)
    o Yellow Anaconda (Eunectes notaeus)
    o Australian Amethystine Python (Morelia amethistina and Morelia kinghorni)
    o Indian Python (Python molurus)

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  • 08-18-2013, 03:14 PM
    Coleslaw007
    Re: Large pythons
    Olive pythons get pretty big.

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  • 08-18-2013, 07:56 PM
    Saxy snake
    Large pythons
    Try a female coastal carpet python. Some of them get over 10 feet.
  • 08-18-2013, 07:58 PM
    toyota89
    Re: Large pythons
    I know I boelens get closer to 10 feet but I want sometime that can eat a rabbit. I don't want to break the law. I saw this guy at the zoo and made me want a large snake. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/19/y3yty8un.jpg

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  • 08-18-2013, 08:12 PM
    toyota89
    Re: Large pythons
    I will get same boas nut only for he dwmakrs get big eniught to eat rabbits.

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  • 08-18-2013, 11:36 PM
    toyota89
    Re: Large pythons
    I will get some boas but only females get big enough to eat rabbits.

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  • 08-19-2013, 03:40 AM
    BLM94
    Large pythons
    If you're open to Boa suggestions, a female Dumerils will approach the size you're looking at. For something from the same area and a bit bigger, Madagascan Ground Boas are very similar and generally larger as well. Neither are on the restricted list for your area.
  • 08-19-2013, 04:30 AM
    toyota89
    Re: Large pythons
    I was looking at both of those. Just can't find anything that's gets closer to a burm or retics. 15-20 feet

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  • 08-19-2013, 05:00 AM
    I-KandyReptiles
    Large pythons
  • 08-19-2013, 05:05 AM
    BLM94
    Large pythons
    Hmm. If you can't do anacondas or scrubs/olives, I can't think of anything else in that range other than the African Rocks which I believe fall on the restriction list.
  • 08-19-2013, 05:17 AM
    toyota89
    Large pythons
    I think an olive python is the biggest I can get. 10-14 feet. Anyone know where I can find a good care sheet?


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  • 08-19-2013, 09:11 AM
    Expensive hobby
    Large pythons
    BCC boa problem solved. Or as stated earlier a big BCI female.

    http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/.../null-2058.jpg


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  • 08-19-2013, 03:05 PM
    Lorgakor
    What experience do you have with large snakes? What will you be housing this large snake in? Why not get a species because you love that particular species, not because it gets big and you think that's cool?
  • 08-19-2013, 05:39 PM
    Expensive hobby
    Large pythons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lorgakor View Post
    What experience do you have with large snakes? What will you be housing this large snake in? Why not get a species because you love that particular species, not because it gets big and you think that's cool?

    Actually really good point /\


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  • 08-19-2013, 05:54 PM
    toyota89
    Re: Large pythons
    Right now I have no big snake experience. I said I wanted to get one not when. I don't plan on having one of these big snakes for at least 6 years. By 2020 I will have some bhps and large boas. I know right now I don't have the space for a big snake going to wait until I buy a house.

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  • 08-19-2013, 07:15 PM
    Herpenthusiast3
    Large pythons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by toyota89 View Post
    I was looking at both of those. Just can't find anything that's gets closer to a burm or retics. 15-20 feet

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    There are plenty of snakes that potentially fit that description but if your asking which species are going to get that large you might want to do a little more research before picking up a "big" snake. In the initial post you stated you where looking for something 10 foot or longer and heavy bodied and then I read the 15-20 foot statement. Seeing a big snake at a zoo and working with a big snake of your own are two entirely different things. Alls I'm getting at is it might be a good idea to find someone who works with big snakes so that you can talk to them and get a better feel for what it's like to both handle and care for big snakes.
    As for suggestions I didn't see anyone list the bredli carpet python (its a heavier bodied carpet). I also wanted to jump on the bcc boa suggestions but my only concern is the fact that BCC's are less forgiving of husbandry mistakes making them a more advanced keepers snake.
  • 08-19-2013, 08:51 PM
    jason_ladouceur
    Re: Large pythons
    Since as already stated all the giants are out in NY without breaking the law. I would say the obvious choice is B.C.O. They are probably the biggest of all the boas excluding anaconda's and they are amazing animals. Also bloods are a very heavy bodied snake, not as long as the 10' mark but even a 6' can be nearly a foot around.
  • 09-09-2013, 07:14 PM
    Gio
    Re: Large pythons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Herpenthusiast3 View Post
    There are plenty of snakes that potentially fit that description but if your asking which species are going to get that large you might want to do a little more research before picking up a "big" snake. In the initial post you stated you where looking for something 10 foot or longer and heavy bodied and then I read the 15-20 foot statement. Seeing a big snake at a zoo and working with a big snake of your own are two entirely different things. Alls I'm getting at is it might be a good idea to find someone who works with big snakes so that you can talk to them and get a better feel for what it's like to both handle and care for big snakes.
    As for suggestions I didn't see anyone list the bredli carpet python (its a heavier bodied carpet). I also wanted to jump on the bcc boa suggestions but my only concern is the fact that BCC's are less forgiving of husbandry mistakes making them a more advanced keepers snake.

    Great post and I agree with everything. But, actually I'll add a BCC from Peru has some of the most forgiving husbandry of the Boas. It's equal to the Colombian boa and the slow grown Peruvian boas can get HUGE. Rio Bravo Reptiles has some very nice Peruvian boas. They can be considered the largest of the BCC generally speaking.

    There is also the Argentine boa (BCO). There is a woman on Youtube (snake hugs and kisses) I think is her name with two 11 foot, 104 pound Argentine boas. They can tolerate lower temps and humidity.

    All of that said, there needs to be a plan for care. Are you able to always have a 2nd and maybe 3rd person around during cleaning and handling times? I fully appreciate large snakes, but I also know I have no business keeping one. I have a Royal python and a beautiful Colombian boa that may hit the 7 foot mark. That is as big as I feel my experience level allows. I don't have a helper, and am not prepared to go larger than a big boa.

    An 8 foot BCI, BCC, or BCO is a lot of snake. For their length, they are as strong a constrictor as they come. Once those bigger pythons hit their full size though, you should not handle them alone.

    The Papuan Olive and the Aussie Olive pythons do get very thick and can handle huge prey. I believe they are very expensive and not readily available in the states. Some feedback says they are a bit defensive and do not hesitate to bite.

    Thinking purely from a common sense standpoint, I'd go the route of the large boas. They will challenge you, and they do have terrestrial and arboreal qualities so they are not always on the ground waiting for a meal.

    Whoever mentioned a big coastal carpet python had a good idea too.

    Best of luck but I'd say work up to it. Also in 6 years you may not have the same enthusiasm as you do now. Home ownership, and life sometimes requires several sacrifices. If you had a nice boa with a 6 foot cage, chances are it would not interrupt your life like a giant python would.

    Good luck.

    Look at these boas. http://www.mccarthyboas.com/BigSnake.html
  • 09-09-2013, 08:09 PM
    Tim Mead
    A true giant means having a 2nd body around, and one that's capable to help if the worst was to occur..
    Here's a medium size python with the girth, BUT you'd need a snake stretcher to get it to 10 feet..
    http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps7b46f56c.jpg
    http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps482a99aa.jpg..:D
  • 09-09-2013, 08:17 PM
    Gio
    Re: Large pythons
    I love that 2nd one Tim!

    You have some beauties and I'll bet they can fit a lil bunny down the hatch too.
  • 09-10-2013, 08:01 PM
    Expensive hobby
    Large pythons
    See even BCI's can get to be a good size:
    http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9cd14630.jpg
    She's 5yo, 8-1/4' long, and 18lbs. Still growing. On medium rabbits with no problem. Not even a bulge in her belly on mediums.


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  • 09-21-2013, 09:13 PM
    NYHC4LIFE8899
    Re: Large pythons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lorgakor View Post
    What experience do you have with large snakes? What will you be housing this large snake in? Why not get a species because you love that particular species, not because it gets big and you think that's cool?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by toyota89 View Post
    Right now I have no big snake experience. I said I wanted to get one not when. I don't plan on having one of these big snakes for at least 6 years. By 2020 I will have some bhps and large boas. I know right now I don't have the space for a big snake going to wait until I buy a house.

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    You don't want a big snake for atleast another 6 years and you we making a thread today...you want a lrg snake in 2019 and your started a thread in 2013, that's awesome:confusd:
  • 09-23-2013, 06:06 AM
    toyota89
    Re: Large pythons
    Yes wanted an idea of what I could get early so I can plan for it when I buy a house.

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  • 09-23-2013, 06:24 AM
    ROACH
    Re: Large pythons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by toyota89 View Post
    Yes wanted an idea of what I could get early so I can plan for it when I buy a house.

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    I think you will have one soon than that. If you have a place to put it.
  • 09-23-2013, 06:51 AM
    Alexiel03
    Re: Large pythons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    There is also the Argentine boa (BCO). There is a woman on Youtube (snake hugs and kisses) I think is her name with two 11 foot, 104 pound Argentine boas. They can tolerate lower temps and humidity

    i was also going to suggest the Argentines, and i believe the womans youtube is 1softkiss, i have her on my youtube. she has 2 argentine boas, a carpet python and 2 bps. also make sure you know what your getting yourself into for large snakes, they are quite expensive to feed and take a lot of commitment, i know cuz i have 2 burms and used to have an 11ft retic too. not to mention they have really big poop xD lol
  • 09-24-2013, 06:55 PM
    Gio
    Re: Large pythons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alexiel03 View Post
    i was also going to suggest the Argentines, and i believe the womans youtube is 1softkiss, i have her on my youtube. she has 2 argentine boas, a carpet python and 2 bps. also make sure you know what your getting yourself into for large snakes, they are quite expensive to feed and take a lot of commitment, i know cuz i have 2 burms and used to have an 11ft retic too. not to mention they have really big poop xD lol


    There ya go,, Softkiss was her name and I think she just changed to "snakes hugs and kisses".

    Big Argey boas she has!!
  • 09-25-2013, 07:27 PM
    Alexiel03
    Re: Large pythons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    There ya go,, Softkiss was her name and I think she just changed to "snakes hugs and kisses".

    Big Argey boas she has!!

    i didnt know she changed her youtube xD lol
  • 09-27-2013, 02:41 PM
    NYHC4LIFE8899
    Re: Large pythons
    Get an African rock python
  • 09-27-2013, 02:45 PM
    Mephibosheth1
    Re: Large pythons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899 View Post
    Get an African rock python


    Why would you recommend one of these??
  • 09-27-2013, 02:46 PM
    NYHC4LIFE8899
    Re: Large pythons
    He said he wanted a large snake and over 10 feet well it's large and gets over 10'..up to 20' ..he asked i answered. He didn't specifically say what he was looking for,right ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lorgakor View Post
    What experience do you have with large snakes? What will you be housing this large snake in? Why not get a species because you love that particular species, not because it gets big and you think that's cool?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mephibosheth1 View Post
    Why would you recommend one of these??

    and by the way,I'm not the only one to recommend a rock,so don't bust my chops cause im new,get it ?? So go question someone else,TY.
  • 09-27-2013, 03:12 PM
    Mephibosheth1
    Chillax buddy

    just wondering...I'm of the opinion this species shouldn't be recommended except by experienced herpers to experienced Herpers; the last thing we need is for more fallout to come from this species
  • 09-27-2013, 03:14 PM
    trevo
    I don't believe I saw this one listed in here, but what about the white lipped python? Particularly the black phase. Beautiful. They stay slender in comparison to most, but females grow up to 10'
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