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  • 08-05-2013, 02:47 PM
    pookie!
    Took Bo Outside..
  • 08-05-2013, 02:58 PM
    Southern_Breeder
    Great pictures. Thanks for sharing! :gj:
  • 08-05-2013, 03:32 PM
    SnowShredder
    Very nice boa, but not a hypo.
    I like his roman nose he has going on
  • 08-05-2013, 03:40 PM
    Pyrate81
    Re: Took Bo Outside..
    Sooo pretty. ty for sharing. :)
  • 08-06-2013, 01:30 AM
    Coleslaw007
    Re: Took Bo Outside..
    OOOOOOHHHHHH... Lil boa!

    He's looking good. I got a couple rats I should bring down for him, too big for my girls.

    Sent from microwave via Tapatalk ll
  • 08-06-2013, 05:27 AM
    STjepkes
    Gorgeous boa.
  • 08-06-2013, 07:59 AM
    pookie!
    Re: Took Bo Outside..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SnowShredder View Post
    Very nice boa, but not a hypo.
    I like his roman nose he has going on

    How is he not a hypo? Thats what he was sold as by a person that wouldnt lie lol

    Yeah his face is smooshable lol he is a good snake

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Coleslaw007 View Post
    OOOOOOHHHHHH... Lil boa!

    He's looking good. I got a couple rats I should bring down for him, too big for my girls.

    Sent from microwave via Tapatalk ll

    Thanks slendflaw! You should

    Thanks everyone!
  • 08-06-2013, 12:05 PM
    SnowShredder
    Re: Took Bo Outside..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pookie! View Post
    How is he not a hypo? Thats what he was sold as by a person that wouldnt lie lol

    Hypos lack black pigment. Speckling is fine but yours has far too much black. He does of the pinched bow tie saddles....but that's the only thing I see that would resemble a hypo. Plug "hypo boa" into google and you will see what I'm saying
  • 08-06-2013, 12:20 PM
    pookie!
    Re: Took Bo Outside..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SnowShredder View Post
    Hypos lack black pigment. Speckling is fine but yours has far too much black. He does of the pinched bow tie saddles....but that's the only thing I see that would resemble a hypo. Plug "hypo boa" into google and you will see what I'm saying

    Hm. I see what you are saying. I just dont know how he would have been labeled hypo and not be one with the man we got him from is all. I guess everyone makes mistakes though. I am not up on my boa morphs lol I know more about the BP morphs thanks to Coleslaw.
    Its not really a big deal, he is mainly just a pet anyhow. His personality is really starting to come out, he is a funny guy and its weird me saying that since he is a snake lol

    Thanks though :)
  • 08-06-2013, 12:44 PM
    Mike41793
    Took Bo Outside..
    Who'd you by him from?
  • 08-06-2013, 03:09 PM
    pookie!
    Crap crap crap, trying to find his car.. he is located in Cali. Let me remember or dig out the card
  • 08-06-2013, 03:15 PM
    pookie!
    They are at all the Phoenix Expos, have a big booth, crap.. I cant think of the name right now
  • 08-06-2013, 03:17 PM
    Mike41793
    Took Bo Outside..
    LLL reptile?
  • 08-06-2013, 03:29 PM
    pookie!
    No not LLL. He was a very cool guy, always has a huge booth with awesome animals and is very knowledgeable. His card has a clown fish on it? If that helps?

    I have been surfing google trying to figure out the name lol
  • 08-06-2013, 03:31 PM
    pookie!
    South Bay Tropical Marine & Reptile! Thats the place
  • 08-06-2013, 03:36 PM
    pookie!
    They are good people, yes?
  • 08-06-2013, 03:45 PM
    Mike41793
    Took Bo Outside..
    Idk i never heard of them. Maybe a local cali person would be able to say
  • 08-06-2013, 05:40 PM
    pookie!
    Idk I just talked to him for a while at the shows a few times and he is a legit guy, he has no real reason to sell me something wrong on purpose and make himself look bad, but idk.. Bo is a dope snake so its whatever
  • 08-06-2013, 06:10 PM
    Coleslaw007
    Re: Took Bo Outside..
    Hmmm maybe you should ask him if you go to the next Phoenix show?
  • 08-06-2013, 06:14 PM
    SnowShredder
    Re: Took Bo Outside..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pookie! View Post
    Idk I just talked to him for a while at the shows a few times and he is a legit guy, he has no real reason to sell me something wrong on purpose and make himself look bad, but idk.. Bo is a dope snake so its whatever

    Yes a very beautiful boa regardless. I'm hoping you didn't pay hypo price (which luckily isn't a huge amount more), because that's unfair to you as the customer. I don't see how he could mistake your boa for a hypo and sold it to you as such. It's one of the most common and easily identified morphs in the boa world
  • 08-06-2013, 06:21 PM
    Expensive hobby
    Took Bo Outside..
    I'm a little confused. On "Boa" forums and websites a hypo (obviously short for "hypomelanistic") refers to the lack or reduction of black skin pigment.

    So because there is some black there at all it means its not a hypo?

    Because I have a EBV Red Group(one of the first 2 bloodlines) Hypo Pastel BCI boa. He has some black on him and not just speckling.

    I think coming from EBV it would undoubtably be correctly labeled in accordance with its breeding.

    Whats abouts thats?


    0.1.0 Normal Ball Python
    0.1.0 Columbian B.C.I. 2013
    1.0.0 EBV Red Group Pastel Hypo Jungle B.C.I. 2013
  • 08-06-2013, 06:22 PM
    Daybreaker
    I can see how the bow tie saddles could have been misleading, but I also say too much black to be a hypo. Here's my girl to compare:

    http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...ps5015f2eb.jpg

    http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...psfd252cfd.jpg

    He's cute in his smooshy-faced-ness though!

    I'll need to keep an eye out for the vendor when we go to the expo: I don't recall remembering them last year or the year before.
  • 08-06-2013, 06:25 PM
    SnowShredder
    Re: Took Bo Outside..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Expensive hobby View Post
    I'm a little confused. On "Boa" forums and websites a hypo (obviously short for "hypomelanistic") refers to the lack or reduction of black skin pigment.

    So because there is some black there at all it means its not a hypo?

    Because I have a EBV Red Group(one of the first 2 bloodlines) Hypo Pastel BCI boa. He has some black on him and not just speckling.

    I think coming from EBV it would undoubtably be correctly labeled in accordance with its breeding.

    Whats abouts thats?

    Oh no, sorry that I wasn't more clear. I said speckling is fine. A certain amount of black is fine. Just that theirs clearly has too much. If you notice around the tail saddles it's very thick. Many many hypos have black and some have a lot. It's almost always "speckling" though. But that one has too much.

    When you combine other morphs/locality it can add even more black that's for sure. Take hypo leopard boas for example. Tons of black, but when you look at it you still know it's a hypo
  • 08-06-2013, 06:33 PM
    pookie!
    Re: Took Bo Outside..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Coleslaw007 View Post
    Hmmm maybe you should ask him if you go to the next Phoenix show?

    I might yea, but I mean its not an uber huge deal but I will probably bring it up because thats odd that he would sell something as one thing and it not be that

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SnowShredder View Post
    Yes a very beautiful boa regardless. I'm hoping you didn't pay hypo price (which luckily isn't a huge amount more), because that's unfair to you as the customer. I don't see how he could mistake your boa for a hypo and sold it to you as such. It's one of the most common and easily identified morphs in the boa world

    I only payed 100$ for him :P I dont think thats too terrible, even if he isnt a hypo. What is he? Just a normal? He seems awfully light

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Daybreaker View Post
    I can see how the bow tie saddles could have been misleading, but I also say too much black to be a hypo. Here's my girl to compare:

    http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...ps5015f2eb.jpg

    http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...psfd252cfd.jpg

    He's cute in his smooshy-faced-ness though!

    I'll need to keep an eye out for the vendor when we go to the expo: I don't recall remembering them last year or the year before.

    Yea the difference is clear even without looking at saddles, he does have quite a lot of black.. He was there the last 2 years, usually set up in the front on the far left .

    Oh and I cannot wait until he is as big as your girl, then his head will be extra mooshable!She is gorgeous btw
  • 08-06-2013, 06:39 PM
    SnowShredder
  • 08-06-2013, 06:41 PM
    SnowShredder
    Re: Took Bo Outside..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pookie! View Post
    I might yea, but I mean its not an uber huge deal but I will probably bring it up because thats odd that he would sell something as one thing and it not be that



    I only payed 100$ for him :P I dont think thats too terrible, even if he isnt a hypo. What is he? Just a normal? He seems awfully light

    I'm really not sure what he could be. He is very very light and gorgeous. Maybe someone with more boa experience will chime in. If he's just a normal, he is a top quality one!
  • 08-06-2013, 06:45 PM
    pookie!
    Re: Took Bo Outside..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SnowShredder View Post
    I'm really not sure what he could be. He is very very light and gorgeous. Maybe someone with more boa experience will chime in. If he's just a normal, he is a top quality one!

    Lol yea I dont want to sound like all the people with the dinkers, what is he is he special :rofl: but he just looks much nicer than a normal but idk either, I am not very savvy in boa stuff

    But he looked more hypo when he was younger, yeah?

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...24571766_n.jpg

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...61155753_n.jpg
  • 08-06-2013, 06:54 PM
    Daybreaker
    Maybe he could be a pastel? I don't know much about the pastel Colombian morph though, just throwing it out there. If he's a normal he's super nice.

    Here's my same girl when she was a little more wee, looking about the same size as your cute guy in his younger pics:

    http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...1Jaidabody.jpg
  • 08-06-2013, 07:05 PM
    SnowShredder
    Re: Took Bo Outside..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Daybreaker View Post
    Maybe he could be a pastel? I don't know much about the pastel Colombian morph though, just throwing it out there. If he's a normal he's super nice.

    Here's my same girl when she was a little more wee, looking about the same size as your cute guy in his younger pics:

    http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...1Jaidabody.jpg


    My first thought looking at him was some type of pastel, but didn't want to throw that out there because I was really unsure. I was thinking that because he's so light, and nice and clean. I don't know where the pinched saddles are coming from though. He's unlike any pastel I've seen
  • 08-06-2013, 07:11 PM
    SnowShredder
  • 08-06-2013, 07:34 PM
    pookie!
    Is there a forum that is nothing but boas that I could ask on? Now I am curious lol
  • 08-06-2013, 07:42 PM
    Daybreaker
    Re: Took Bo Outside..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pookie! View Post
    Is there a forum that is nothing but boas that I could ask on? Now I am curious lol

    http://redtailboa.net/forums/

    http://www.redtailboas.com/content/
  • 08-06-2013, 07:48 PM
    dbassa
    Re: Took Bo Outside..
    Sweet little BCI you've got there!
  • 08-06-2013, 08:27 PM
    Bluebonnet Herp
    I bet that boa has some Hogg Island in its blood. Maybe not a purebred, but Hogg Isle. just being mixed in there
    He's handsome though! :)
  • 08-06-2013, 09:12 PM
    pookie!
    Thanks Daybreaker!

    Havnt heard that yet pythonminion, I just find it odd the guy we bought him from sold us something without it being correct.. lol its interesting though
  • 08-06-2013, 10:14 PM
    Bluebonnet Herp
    Re: Took Bo Outside..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pookie! View Post
    Thanks Daybreaker!

    Havnt heard that yet pythonminion, I just find it odd the guy we bought him from sold us something without it being correct.. lol its interesting though

    I, personally, think you got a better deal. That boa looks better than the typical orange hypo people sell.
    Bo is a better looking boa!
  • 08-06-2013, 10:51 PM
    Evenstar
    First off, that is one gorgeous boa.


    He is definitely not a hypo, as has already been stated. He could be a Hog Island intergrade, but personally, I'm not seeing much Hog in there either. However, I DO think he is certainly a pastel!! His baby pictures especially make me think that. He is beautifully pink and has a softer pattern. He is also quite clean. Now, there's no way to tell what line of pastel, but I do think pastel nonetheless.

    No matter what, he is most definitely not a normal. There is something else going on here whether it's a crazy gene or a morph or a cross. And I would've paid more than $100 for him so I think you got a great deal on a very nice snake!


    Here is a baby picture of my hypo female and the second is a pic of my baby Pastel Dream for comparison......

    http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/.../peaches01.jpg

    http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/...psa48cbf27.jpg
  • 08-06-2013, 11:11 PM
    pookie!
    Re: Took Bo Outside..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pythonminion View Post
    I, personally, think you got a better deal. That boa looks better than the typical orange hypo people sell.
    Bo is a better looking boa!

    I think I did too, paid for something simple and got a very handsome snake!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    First off, that is one gorgeous boa.


    He is definitely not a hypo, as has already been stated. He could be a Hog Island intergrade, but personally, I'm not seeing much Hog in there either. However, I DO think he is certainly a pastel!! His baby pictures especially make me think that. He is beautifully pink and has a softer pattern. He is also quite clean. Now, there's no way to tell what line of pastel, but I do think pastel nonetheless.

    No matter what, he is most definitely not a normal. There is something else going on here whether it's a crazy gene or a morph or a cross. And I would've paid more than $100 for him so I think you got a great deal on a very nice snake!


    Here is a baby picture of my hypo female and the second is a pic of my baby Pastel Dream for comparison......


    The people on another forum are saying he for sure needs to be bred lol gives me a good feeling knowing we have something a little better than your average hypo lol he might be bred, but I will have to figure out to exactly what :P

    Oh and that Pastel Dream, DROOL! :O
  • 08-07-2013, 12:15 AM
    Expensive hobby
    Took Bo Outside..
    Here is a pic of my EBV Red Group Hypo Pastel.

    http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...2/null-187.jpg

    http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...2/null-188.jpg

    http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...2/null-190.jpg

    http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...2/null-191.jpg


    0.1.0 Normal Ball Python
    0.1.0 Columbian B.C.I. 2013
    1.0.0 EBV Red Group Pastel Hypo Jungle B.C.I. 2013
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