Hatch-Rite..best place to buy?

As the title says, where is the best place to buy Hatch-Rite? I will only have one clutch this year, and although I know I should already have the hatch-rite, I have yet to make the purchase. There is a place by my house that sells reptiles and the owner breeds bps..he sells all types of breeding supplies like inc's, thermostats, rheostats, probes, everything you could imagine EXCEPT substrate....so where is the best place to buy the stuff on the net? I decided to go this route because it seems to be the easiest to use and least likely to wreck my clutch.

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Originally Posted by SteveySingle

As the title says, where is the best place to buy Hatch-Rite? I will only have one clutch this year, and although I know I should already have the hatch-rite, I have yet to make the purchase. There is a place by my house that sells reptiles and the owner breeds bps..he sells all types of breeding supplies like inc's, thermostats, rheostats, probes, everything you could imagine EXCEPT substrate....so where is the best place to buy the stuff on the net? I decided to go this route because it seems to be the easiest to use and least likely to wreck my clutch.

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Bean Farm...funny name, great people. http://beanfarm.com/

Overpriced perlite with a special name.

You can get a huge bag of Perlite for the same price at a garden or hardware store. Just make sure there aren't any extra fertilizer or additives in it.

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Originally Posted by satomi325

Overpriced perlite with a special name.

You can get a huge bag of Perlite for the same price at a garden or hardware store. Just make sure there aren't any extra fertilizer or additives in it.

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That's not what the OP was asking. But anyway, Hatchrite is not perlite, you can reuse it indefinitely, and it's fool proof.

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Originally Posted by sho220

That's not what the OP was asking. But anyway, Hatchrite is not perlite, you can reuse it indefinitely, and it's fool proof.

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Yes it is, it's glorified perlite, as nikki said. It's just foolproof premixed perlite lol

http://www.store.repashy.com/incubation.html

EDIT: ok maybe not foolproof... But its dumbed down.

Bean farm it is !
and it's on sale too...i aint mad at it.

Be careful, I've heard of plenty of ppl having issues with Hatch-Rite, their eggs getting too dry partway through incubation. A muuuuuuuuch safer, more foolproof method is to do the substrateless method with light diffuser over perlite and water. http://www.worldofballpythons.com/ar...bation-method/

Plus, as others have said, you're getting hardcore ripped off buying Hatch-Rite.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Yes it is, it's glorified perlite, as nikki said. It's just foolproof premixed perlite lol

http://www.store.repashy.com/incubation.html

EDIT: ok maybe not foolproof... But its dumbed down.

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Premixed with what? I don't think perlite holds water indefinitely, so there's something else in Hatchrite that makes it retain water. Aside from being off topic, to say Hatchrite is just perlite is incorrect imo...

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Originally Posted by Coleslaw007

Be careful, I've heard of plenty of ppl having issues with Hatch-Rite, their eggs getting too dry partway through incubation. A muuuuuuuuch safer, more foolproof method is to do the substrateless method with light diffuser over perlite and water. http://www.worldofballpythons.com/ar...bation-method/

Plus, as others have said, you're getting hardcore ripped off buying Hatch-Rite.

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I've used it for the past 5 years and never had an issue. NERD uses it and he seems to do pretty well.

No matter how fool proof you make something, there are people out there who will foul it up. And as for it being too expensive? With each clutch potentially worth thousands of dollars, I'll splurge and spend a few bucks on some Hatchrite.

Ok, not "just perlite"...
Imo, it's like comparing Tylenol to a generic brand of acetaminophen

Well good for you. I've seen plenty of ppl ask for advice about their eggs and the Hatch-Rite seemed to be too dry, their eggs were dimpling prematurely.

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Originally Posted by Coleslaw007

Well good for you. I've seen plenty of ppl ask for advice about their eggs and the Hatch-Rite seemed to be too dry, their eggs were dimpling prematurely.

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Why the attitude? I'm glad you've read things on the internet. I'm going off personal experience. You ever use Hatchrite?

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Ok, not "just perlite"...
Imo, it's like comparing Tylenol to a generic brand of acetaminophen

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It's not the same at all. You just admitted it's not just perlite. There's an additional ingredient. The ingredients are the same for Tylenol and the generic equivalent....hence the term generic equivalent.

I had already made the decision to go with Hatch-Rite rather than perlite...and I already purchased the Hatch-Rite too...

Unfortunately, Bean Farm doesn't sell name brand Tylenol...otherwise I woulda added some of it to my cart considering the headache I got from the off-topic responses on this thread -__-

Lol jk. I did already buy the hatch-rite from bean farm though, I just prefer name brand credibility to generic stuff..personal preference.
But thank you all for your responses...my threads never reach two pages!! :banana:

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Yes it is, it's glorified perlite, as nikki said. It's just foolproof premixed perlite lol

http://www.store.repashy.com/incubation.html

EDIT: ok maybe not foolproof... But its dumbed down.

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I think Mike meant pre-packaged and worded it weird with premixed.


Either way, tomato tomahtoe....
Personally, it just seems silly to pay more for the same thing.

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Originally Posted by sho220

Why the attitude? I'm glad you've read things on the internet. I'm going off personal experience. You ever use Hatchrite?

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She said she didn't because of the problems people had with their eggs drying out.

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Originally Posted by sho220

It's not the same at all. You just admitted it's not just perlite. There's an additional ingredient. The ingredients are the same for Tylenol and the generic equivalent....hence the term generic equivalent.

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It's basically the same thing lol. I'm not sure why you're getting so defensive. We're all just sharing opinions here... I'm not basing mine off DIRECT personal experience, just talking with people and reading stuff online. I think you're all stupid and wasting money since I'm gunna use substrate less! :p lol

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Originally Posted by satomi325

I think Mike meant pre-packaged and worded it weird with premixed.


Either way, tomato tomahtoe....
Personally, it just seems silly to pay more for the same thing.

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To say that Hatchrite and perlite are the same thing is wrong. You can't buy a bag of perlite, dump it in an egg box without adding water and expect a good outcome. You're paying for the convenience of not having to mess with adding water, mixing perlite/vermiculite, cutting up light diffusers, etc. To me it's worth a few extra bucks.

Sometimes you still have to add water to hatchrite (like the people whose eggs were getting too dry which was previously mentioned^) which defeats the purpose of it. So basically, it's the same thing, just don't know how much water you may or may not have to add with hatchrite lol.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

It's basically the same thing lol. I'm not sure why you're getting so defensive. We're all just sharing opinions here... I'm not basing mine off DIRECT personal experience, just talking with people and reading stuff online. I think you're all stupid and wasting money since I'm gunna use substrate less! :p lol

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lol...it's like saying beer and water are basically the same thing. Unless the perlite you guys are finding contains Polyacrylamide
...then I'd be all about using just perlite.

But people do add/mix water to their hatchrite....... Even NERD does.....:confused:
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So the process is still the same for both or no?????o_O
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I actually bought a bag of it when I first started out, but I read so many bad reviews where ppl had to add water and sometimes added too much water, I gave it away and went substrateless.



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Originally Posted by Coleslaw007

I actually bought a bag of it when I first started out, but I read so many bad reviews where ppl had to add water and sometimes added too much water, I gave it away and went substrateless.



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I had half a bag left over from last year. I used it this year and didn't have to add any water. :confusd:

I do remember reading reviews when it first came out about people having issues with it drying out. However, I could never tell if it was due to the product, or operator error. I think a lot of it was newbie paranoia...OMG my eggs are deflating!!! <<< How many threads like that pop up only to find the eggs are a week away from hatching and are just fine. Some of the other complaints came from people breeding lizards or something that requires a different moisture content than Balls. Could have also just been a production problem early on that has since been sorted out. :confusd:

I don't know...all I know is it works for me.

Works great for me.
Granted I have only been breeding 3 season but I have used it from the beginning and never had a problem.
Never had to add water (lids fit really tight on my tubs).
Not sure what problems some folks have but I actually enjoy using it , iys easy and convenient. The few extra bucks is worth it to me.

This hobby has always been about trial and error no matter what the issue was or is.
Find what works for you and run with it.
Good luck to all.

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Originally Posted by sho220

That's not what the OP was asking. But anyway, Hatchrite is not perlite, you can reuse it indefinitely, and it's fool proof.

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Hatchrite is perlite and it is not foolproof. I know a guy that let all of his eggs die because of the "no need to add water". It is a money making name to take advantage of people that don't know any better. I have perlite from 5 years ago. Rinse and reuse indefinitely.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne

Hatchrite is perlite and it is not foolproof. I know a guy that let all of his eggs die because of the "no need to add water". It is a money making name to take advantage of people that don't know any better. I have perlite from 5 years ago. Rinse and reuse indefinitely.

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It's been foolproof for me for the last 5 years...I'll roll with that...:)