bee and lesser bee

Ok Miss Doolittle and anyone else that would like to weigh in. What do you think? Average examples, better than average maybe?

http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/...pse818c2df.jpg

http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/...psf0ea3bad.jpg

I think both are pretty sweet.
Very minimal browning on the bumble bee, gorgeous markings on the lesser bee.
nice pick up.

Haven't actually got them yet. I'm still really new and trying to look for in specifice morphs. What's average what's really nice etc. From what I read I thought these were pretty nice examples but wanted to get some confirmation. I want to get a couple females that I can start working on then figured I'd start looking at males next year sometime. Thanks for the input. Oh 425 for the bee 650 for the lesser bee. Seem fair?

i think they look good, especially the lesser bee, i see all 3 genes doing their thing in that one.

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Originally Posted by nighttrain_1991

Oh 425 for the bee 650 for the lesser bee. Seem fair?

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maybe the bee could be a bit cheaper, but the price jump from 2 genes to 3 genes seems rather small, so i would say, especially the lesser bee is worth considering. 225 dollars for a third nice gene added into it, should definitively be worth it.

but are these males or females? i assumed males, but if its females then the deal is even better.

That's a really nice bumblebee, no browning at all! How old/big is it? I think you should get it.

The lesserbee is a great example too.

I think they're both quite nice.

I saw these for sale and thought that lesserbee stuck out as a prime example of what I want in a lesserbee. White sides, cool orangey dots, and nice creamy colors. I'd jump on that asap

I'm trying right now but having problems getting registered on the site. What would you pair her with?

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Originally Posted by nighttrain_1991

I'm trying right now but having problems getting registered on the site. What would you pair her with?

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Worry about that in a year! Raise the female and enjoy her! Keep browsing pictures here to see some cool combos :gj:. I would do something with pin OR enchi. Maybe calico enchi or calico pin :gj:. Don't buy the male now though! The price will be cheaper next year, and they should both be ready to breed around the same time

oh, i just noticed, i made a big mistake, a miscalculation.


i believed because bee = pastel spider, that lesser bee = lesser pastel spider.

Now i noticed the lesser bee is actually NOT a bee, but just a lesser spider.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/lesser-bee/

and what REALLY freaked me out that it took me forever to find a real lesser pastel spider in the morph list, because its called queen bee, and not subtitled as "lesser pastel spider".

in contrast, the fire bee is not just fire spider, but really is fire pastel spider.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/fire-bee/

this is all really confusing. i mean, i know a lot about morphs, combos, and genetics, but sometimes these strange names still get me. i believed "bee" simply means "pastel spider", but instead it means "spider with something else, most likely pastel, except when it just means spider".

Good luck with that Kurtlien.:slamhead:
This is why I put OWAL's genetic morph on my droid.
There are also different lines of the same gene going by different names to further muddy the waters.
http://www.owalreptiles.com/genetics.php
Under media tab there is the phone version for droid and iPhone. Personally I found it to be very handy especially at reptile expo's.

Worry about that in a year! Raise the female and enjoy her! Keep browsing pictures here to see some cool combos :gj:. I would do something with pin OR enchi. Maybe calico enchi or calico pin :gj:. Don't buy the male now though! The price will be cheaper next year, and they should both be ready to breed around the same time.

That's my plan just looking for ideas. I'm looking to get two females now and get them started then look for males next year.


believed because bee = pastel spider, that lesser bee = lesser pastel spider.

Now i noticed the lesser bee is actually NOT a bee, but just a lesser spider.

So that being said what seems like the better deal--the bee for 425 or the lesser for 600 both females about 285g

since its now about two different 2-gene snakes, i would go for the pastel spider, over the lesser spider.

Except if you maybe want to do something with the BEL gene complex, like karmas or stuff like that, then the higher price may be justified.

but the lesser spider still looks much better i think. the bee is also quite a good example of a bee, but also when i look at pictures of the two morphs elsewhere, i like the lesser spider more. overall, the bee still seems to be the better deal.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Kurtilein

since its now about two different 2-gene snakes, i would go for the pastel spider, over the lesser spider.

Except if you maybe want to do something with the BEL gene complex, like karmas or stuff like that, then the higher price may be justified.

but the lesser spider still looks much better i think. the bee is also quite a good example of a bee, but also when i look at pictures of the two morphs elsewhere, i like the lesser spider more. overall, the bee still seems to be the better deal.

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I disagree. Lesserbee female is more valuable IMO. The number of genes doesn't matter as much as the type of genes and combo rarity. There are a million bees and half a million lesserbees. Starting with a lesserbee female as a base is HUGE. Lesser makes EVERYTHING better. Lesser > pastel all day IMO.

I'd recommend getting what you like and not what the better deal is. They're both priced appropriately and are both good examples of the combo.

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Originally Posted by h00blah

I disagree. Lesserbee female is more valuable IMO. The mumber of genes doesn't matter as much as the type of genes and combo rarity. There are a million bees and half a million lesserbees. Starting with a lesserbee female as a base is HUGE. Lesser makes EVERYTHING better. Lesser > pastel all day IMO.

I'd recommend getting what you like and not what the better deal is. They're both priced appropriately and are both good examples of the combo.

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Amen, brother!