Sunglow?

Hey guys, i'm looking at finally buying a boa! I'm extremely excited about buying one. I don't really have a preference of which type yet but I have a question about this one I found on an ad. The add says this is a double het sunglow, but I've googled sunglows and they look nothing like this picture. It looks more to me like a redtail. Can anyone help me out? This is the only pic that they posted.

http://i53.tinypic.com/2dums1v.jpg

It is possible it is a DH Sunglow, if the add said Het then its not visual.
Where did you find the add?

It was on kijiji, I asked for more pictures. If it is a sunglow they don't know what they're worth because it's a hell of a deal for 100 bucks!

its not a Sunglow, but supposedly het for sunglow, meaning if you bred it you might get sunglows as a result. Still a pretty snake though, I like it.

Ahh okay the ad says double het sunglow. Maybe the person just didn't know what they were talking about. Thanks!

This is what the guy with the ad told me. Does this help in determining the type?

She is a redish pinkish color the mom is a salmon and the dad is aslmon coral albino

I dont think I am well versed enough in boa morphs to be able to determine a het and or exact morph type. Hopefully some more experienced boa peoples will chime in, I would suggest posting this to Red Tail Boa forum. Let me know how it goes :)

Thanks anyways for the help! Either way i'll be purchasing her, she's beautiful and looks to be a good start to my boa collection :)

Boas are great, once I got one I didnt want anything else.. I love how active they are and do pretty!

A snake is "het" or heterozygus for a recessive gene (like albino). Hypomelanism (hypo) is a co-dominant gene - in other words, there is a super form. If a snake is a hypo, but not a "super-hypo", then it is a visual het for the super form.

If a snake is referred to as "double het" for sunglow, that means that the snake is a hypo 100% het albino. It is truly a "double het" sunglow.

Now I cannot tell you for sure if this particular animal is a hypo - the overall color of the picture is off so it's impossible to know based on this picture alone. If the animal is normal colored, then it is NOT double het sunglow because it is not a hypo. It would only be a normal het albino.

Make sense?? :gj:

Yes it makes sense a bit confusing though :P Once i pick her up on tuesday i'll post a lot more pics! Thanks :D

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Originally Posted by Sexy_Saxy

Yes it makes sense a bit confusing though :P Once i pick her up on tuesday i'll post a lot more pics! Thanks :D

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She's a hypo, congrats!

So am I getting a good deal for $100 Canadian??

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Originally Posted by Daybreaker

She's a hypo, congrats!

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Sorry, but how can you tell from that picture?? The color is not clear enough to make that determination. Just because an animal is pinkish does not make it a hypo and there are distinct black rings around her tail saddles. The back saddles are somewhat butterfly shaped, but not significantly so. I would want to see a different picture that wasn't completely washed out in orange before making that call. I'm not questioning your judgment, I just want to know what's making you say that.


To the OP - even normals het albino can go for around $100 US. Not quite sure what that translates to in CAN, but I'd say it's probably about the going rate. If this snake does prove to be a hypo, then, yes, you're getting a very good deal!! No matter what, this is a nice animal and I think you made a pretty nice find! :gj:




Edit: Daybreaker, I'm sorry. That sounded a bit harsh and I didn't mean it to be. I hope you know from previous threads that I usually agree with you and always respect your opinion. I'm still on a few pain meds after my recent surgery and sometimes things don't come out the way I mean them to, lol. I'd just like to know what features are standing out to you as hypo in this snake so all of us, including the OP, can learn. Thanks!! ;)

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

Sorry, but how can you tell from that picture?? The color is not clear enough to make that determination. Just because an animal is pinkish does not make it a hypo and there are distinct black rings around her tail saddles. The back saddles are somewhat butterfly shaped, but not significantly so. I would want to see a different picture that wasn't completely washed out in orange before making that call. I'm not questioning your judgment, I just want to know what's making you say that.

Edit: Daybreaker, I'm sorry. That sounded a bit harsh and I didn't mean it to be. I hope you know from previous threads that I usually agree with you and always respect your opinion. I'm still on a few pain meds after my recent surgery and sometimes things don't come out the way I mean them to, lol. I'd just like to know what features are standing out to you as hypo in this snake so all of us, including the OP, can learn. Thanks!! ;)

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Not a problem, and I simply say she's a hypo because that's what I see and you pointed out the exact reasons why I believe she's a hypo (I bolded your words that I agree with). Along with those a lot of hypos (not all mind you, my own hypo is very peppered) are very clean and she just doesn't have the look of a normal or otherwise IMO. Regardless of the darken photos that aren't in direct sunlight I still see 100% hypo in that snake.

Ok! Thanks for explaining - and understanding, lol. I'll look forward to seeing clearer pictures of her when the OP gets her. :gj:

Looks like a crappy pic of a decent looking salmon, which is a line of hypos. My first boa/snake ever was a salmon het albino which gave birth 2 weeks after I got it to 27 babies. a nice mix of hypos het albino, sunglows, and albinos. the term double het sunglow is incorrect to me. it should be hypo het sunglow indicating that it is a hypo and het for albino. which is what it takes to make a sunglow. hypo is a co-dom gene so there is no het for it. that is my complaint with the boa worlds naming system. lol

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Ok! Thanks for explaining - and understanding, lol. I'll look forward to seeing clearer pictures of her when the OP gets her. :gj:

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Same, and if the snake turns out to the farthest thing from a hypo I'll gladly admit my wrong :P

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Originally Posted by Daybreaker

Same, and if the snake turns out to the farthest thing from a hypo I'll gladly admit my wrong :P

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LoL!! And if it turns out to be the most obvious hypo the planet has ever seen, I'll do likewise! :D:D:D

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Originally Posted by H.o.F.R

Looks like a crappy pic of a decent looking salmon, which is a line of hypos. My first boa/snake ever was a salmon het albino which gave birth 2 weeks after I got it to 27 babies. a nice mix of hypos het albino, sunglows, and albinos. the term double het sunglow is incorrect to me. it should be hypo het sunglow indicating that it is a hypo and het for albino. which is what it takes to make a sunglow. hypo is a co-dom gene so there is no het for it. that is my complaint with the boa worlds naming system. lol

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And that is my complaint with the boa world's naming system too. Love how you put that! :gj:

The boa in that pic is a hypo,

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Originally Posted by Sexy_Saxy

This is what the guy with the ad told me. Does this help in determining the type?

She is a redish pinkish color the mom is a salmon and the dad is aslmon coral albino

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the snake in the picture is a hypo, hypo and salmon are basically the same thing nowadays. So further on this the dad is a salmon het coral albino or the dad was a coral sunglow??? (a salmon albino =sunglow) this is important bc if dad was visual then your boa would be hypo 100% albino if dad was a het then your baby would be hypo 50% albino.....regardless good deal for 100 bucks :D