Made my decision going with Corns. What Morphs?

I've been thinking of either breeding BP or corns. I've done my research on both and I have chosen Corn snakes since they are affordable, for me and I think for great deal of people around my area.

I'm just not sure what Morphs I should go with. I'm thinking of just going with the basic morphs just for now and expand when able to.
I'm looking to buy 3 different kinds of morph.

This is more of a hobby / something to keep me busy. I'm not really looking to make any real money outta this, and I'm looking to keep it cheap.

Congrats! Corns are great pets and one of the best display animals - easy keepers, gorgeous, active, and always entertaining. If I had to pick three morphs, I would go with these;
1) Abbott Okeetee
2) Extreme Reverse Okeetee
3) Fire
If you want to drool over pics, check out Steve Roylance's site (gutattus.com)

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Originally Posted by GoFride

Congrats! Corns are great pets and one of the best display animals - easy keepers, gorgeous, active, and always entertaining. If I had to pick three morphs, I would go with these;
1) Abbott Okeetee
2) Extreme Reverse Okeetee
3) Fire
If you want to drool over pics, check out Steve Roylance's site (gutattus.com)

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2nd this, I have actually just ordered 2 snakes from him (waiting for weather to permit to ship though).

I would add two more,
4) Pied [has Diffused gene by default]
5) Amel Plasma [Amel, Diffused, Lavender] (also able to be seen on Steve's site)

Oh, I found my must have a cinnamon corn.

I love cinnamon ha. Thanks for the link / suggestions.

Glad you decided to go with corns. They are wonderful pets, display animals, and are easy to breed!

As for morphs, go with something you love. There are so many that it's hard to narrow it down. Personally, I go with a single project at a time (currently pieds here) because unlike BP's, you will end up with plenty of babies. Instead of a couple hatchlings, you may be looking at more than 40 in a year from a single female. Also, because everything is recessive except for a couple morphs, you may get some surprises when breeding. Those are always fun. :)

If you go with the cinnamon, just be sure to remember it's a hybrid. They are pretty though.

Breeding corns is AWESOME and so much fun!

I don't have suggestions for you, just breed what you like. There are more than enough corn morphs out there to satisfy anybody!

I love the cinder morphs. Sunkissed cinder and peppermint are my favorites. I also like orchids and other sunkiss morphs.

You said you want to keep it cheap, and I'm not sure if you meant what you are buying or how much you are gonna sell them for.

If you meant the fromer, then I would go with charcoal, diffused, and maybe a butter. With hets that match up, preferably.

I've got a stupid question, While I was researching corns I came across a website that said I could breed corns x2 during the year.
Is this true?
I'm just breed a female once, but just wondering if this is true.

also whats the general feed for Corns?
Mice or rats? I'm guessing I can go with either one?

My favorite corn morph is the Palmetto. Someday ...

Good luck!

Butter corns are my favorite...the coloration is just beautiful...they all are, but I'm very partial to butters. Tesseras aren't cheap, but should be fun, as they're the only known dominant gene in corn snakes, the rest being recessive.

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Originally Posted by Newbie Ball

I've got a stupid question.
No such thing!
While I was researching corns I came across a website that said I could breed corns x2 during the year. Is this true?
Corns can sometimes double clutch. They will breed once, lay eggs for you, and then lay eggs again (a smaller clutch) later on.
Whats the general feed for Corns? Mice or rats? I'm guessing I can go with either one?
Corns are generally mouse eaters. Most corn owners keep them on mice their entire lives.

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You can breed corns at anytime durring the year, but unless you brumate I think you should only aim for one clutch per corn. Mice, mice, mice! Yumm. I wouldn't feed rats unless you're doing it to give gravid females a boost. Just because of how much fat is in a rat pup compared to a grown mouse.

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Originally Posted by Newbie Ball

I've got a stupid question, While I was researching corns I came across a website that said I could breed corns x2 during the year.
Is this true?
I'm just breed a female once, but just wondering if this is true.

also whats the general feed for Corns?
Mice or rats? I'm guessing I can go with either one?

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Yes, you can breed a female twice, however, it's not recommended. They spend a lot of energy laying eggs and if you have them double clutch, they don't have a chance to regain that weight. Another thing to consider is that not all corn snakes will give you two clutches and some will give you two clutches without you reintroducing a male. It's really all dependent on the female.

As for feeding, I feed all my corn snakes mice from the Munson plan (http://medusa-corns.webs.com/feedingchart.htm). It has worked out well for me thus far and I plan to continue to use it. You can, however, feed rats, but if you do, I'd advise you to use this chart on when to start feeding rats (http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...mousesizes.jpg) You can also go by prey weight. Some pinky rats are MUCH larger than fuzzy mice (more like hopper mouse size). Whatever is easier for you.

As for what morphs to use, I would HIGHLY suggest you look at what you want to breed for. There are only a handful of morphs that are dominant morphs. 95% are recessive so when you start buying snakes, make sure to take into account what they are het for!

I will be breeding my corn snakes this time next year. I'm working with the following adults: anery motley het amel male, snow female, bloodred het hypo/lavender/motley PH amel and caramel, hypo lavender PH motley male, and a miami phase female. I plan on pairing my anery with the snow and the bloodred with the hypo lavender (my long term project is hypo lavender bloodreds). My miami phase has no breeding plans for her but I may buy her a miami boyfriend eventually.

Also, follow the rule of threes when breeding: females need to be three feet long, three years old, and three hundred grams.

Best of luck!

im fairly new to the corn world and only have a couple pairs but heres my thought on it. buy stuff that can be paired up together to make a variety of morphs. I bought 1.0 patternless lavendar het amel and 0.1 amel het patternless lavendar. that way I get opals, patternless opals, amels, patternless amels, lavendar patternless, and all are het for what ever they arent visible for. I just feel like it gives me more of a variety so it will make it easier to sell the excess babies. I also picked up 1.0 butter motley and a 0.1 butter het motley. and 1.0 sunglow het anery 0.1 snow het hypo. I think those 3 pairs will give me a good diverse amount of babies without trying to get rid of say 10 of the exact same thing.

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Originally Posted by H.o.F.R

im fairly new to the corn world and only have a couple pairs but heres my thought on it. buy stuff that can be paired up together to make a variety of morphs. I bought 1.0 patternless lavendar het amel and 0.1 amel het patternless lavendar. that way I get opals, patternless opals, amels, patternless amels, lavendar patternless, and all are het for what ever they arent visible for. I just feel like it gives me more of a variety so it will make it easier to sell the excess babies. I also picked up 1.0 butter motley and a 0.1 butter het motley. and 1.0 sunglow het anery 0.1 snow het hypo. I think those 3 pairs will give me a good diverse amount of babies without trying to get rid of say 10 of the exact same thing.

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That's exactly what I was advising :D I like seeing a variety of babies hatch out. Since I have a 1.0 Hypo Lavender PH motley and a 0.1 Bloodred het hypo/lavender/motley, I can hatch out normals, hypos, lavenders, motleys, etc. It's just so much for fun (in my opinion) to not know EXACTLY what you're getting instead of breeding say a hypo with a hypo to get more hypos.

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Originally Posted by GoFride

I've got a stupid question.
No such thing!
While I was researching corns I came across a website that said I could breed corns x2 during the year. Is this true?
Corns can sometimes double clutch. They will breed once, lay eggs for you, and then lay eggs again (a smaller clutch) later on.
Whats the general feed for Corns? Mice or rats? I'm guessing I can go with either one?
Corns are generally mouse eaters. Most corn owners keep them on mice their entire lives.

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The only thing is it's not always a smaller clutch. I'm also pretty sure that's it's more genetic versus when you breed them. My original girl, Kitai, double clutched pretty much every year. First year she was bred, she gave me 44 eggs (22 in the first clutch and 22 in the second, surprise!). Luckily, she never did that again but after that, I always fed her extra along with a calcium substitute through her laying season because those second clutches do a number on them if they can't gain enough weight back in between. I know a couple of her daughters do the same thing when bred and repeatedly give their owners double clutches every year. Just something to keep in mind.