Ripley, sort of...

She was being a total spaz last night. I didn't get any complete body shots, and only one or two I would consider good. Photographing boas is hard. :( At least mine, :p

Hey Ripley, the pictures are over here...

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I think this was my favorite.

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I like this one too, I love her eyes.

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She is beautiful!!! I love her coloration - very mellow and nice. I like the softness of her pattern. She looks like she's coated in butter. :bow::bow::bow:

Is she Kahl or Sharp??

She looks great! And I love the second picture

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She is beautiful!!! I love her coloration - very mellow and nice. I like the softness of her pattern. She looks like she's coated in butter. :bow::bow::bow:

Is she Kahl or Sharp??

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She is Coral Albino, which is Kahl I believe? She was very buttery/creamy looking last night. I don't know if it was a light phase, or maybe she's going into shed. It's so hard to tell on her. That would explain her being a spaz. :p

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I love her! She is gorgeous. Great pictures too - especially the second one!

Thank you guys! :)

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I like the fourth picture. It looks like she's smiling

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She is Coral Albino, which is Kahl I believe? She was very buttery/creamy looking last night. I don't know if it was a light phase, or maybe she's going into shed. It's so hard to tell on her. That would explain her being a spaz. :p

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She is so beautiful! :O

I have two Kahl Albinos bought from people who know even less than I do.

How do I know if they're just 'plain' Albinos or something more?

http://file.walagata.com/w/the-salam...whitesnake.jpg

And a photo sent by the seller
http://file.walagata.com/w/the-salamander/GEDC2982.JPG

And Veronica, who won't sit still....:)

http://www.walagata.com/w/the-salamander/veronica.jpg

http://file.walagata.com/w/the-salamander/photo4.JPG

WOW. Gorgeous!

Are you serious??!!

I've always said if I went bigger than a ball python, it would be a red tail, which I love.

Now you are telling me they come in ALBINO??!!!

Why did I not know this?

And exactly how big does one get anyway ? ;)

Gale

I luff her!

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Are you serious??!!

I've always said if I went bigger than a ball python, it would be a red tail, which I love.

Now you are telling me they come in ALBINO??!!!

Why did I not know this?

And exactly how big does one get anyway ? ;)

Gale

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"Oooh, aaaah" list

https://perfectpredators.3dcartstore...ion_ep_43.html

Not near as many morphs as Beeps but still some incredible critters.

:)

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She is so beautiful! :O

I have two Kahl Albinos bought from people who know even less than I do.

How do I know if they're just 'plain' Albinos or something more?

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Without documentation, there is no way to know if they are something more than albino. Unless there is an obvious color clue (like vivid oranges which might indicate a sunglow (hypo x albino) or clean white which is a snow (albino x anery)), they are just an albino. Very pretty albinos, but still just an albino. :gj:

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Are you serious??!!

I've always said if I went bigger than a ball python, it would be a red tail, which I love.

Now you are telling me they come in ALBINO??!!!

Why did I not know this?

And exactly how big does one get anyway ? ;)

Gale

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Hey Gale!! Why, yes, they DO come in albino! And MANY more too! Here's a brief list of some base morphs - http://www.blumenboas.com/boamorphs.htm but there are a LOT of morphs in Colombian boas - and can you imagine combining these genes?? Morphs in boas are turning out to be nearly as diverse as morphs in BPs!!

Boas do not necessarily get overly large. Several "mid-sized" choices are male BCIs, Hog Island, and Dumerils ground boas. If you're interested in an albino or other morph, then you'd want to stick with a BCI (Colombian red tail). The males will usually stay around 5-6 feet, maybe up to 7ft. The females are a bit larger and usually max out around 7-8ft at the most.

Boas are SO much more interactive than BPs! The difference is night and day. I thought my BPs were actually really personable and friendly, then I got my first boa and WOW what a change! They love to be held, will hang on my shoulders for as long as they are allowed to do so, and will eat anything you put in front of them. They are amazing snakes!!

Wow she is very pretty, I am hoping to add an albino to my collection soon, and a normal just for comparisons sake ;)

Ok, I am charging you two with cruel and unusual punishment!

I've never seen any of these morphs. Here in the St. Louis area, all I see are the normal colored ones. There were probably morphs at Tinley Park when I went, but was BP obsessed and didn't pay much attention.

You know, my two biggest BP girls are right around 6', a BCI isn't that much bigger.......

Curse you both for getting into my head like this!

Ok, so they need much larger enclosures than a ball does, and they are much more finicky with husbandry issues, and they eat a lot more than a ball does, right ? And you better say yes because I will be in serious trouble if you say no.

Gale

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Ok, I am charging you two with cruel and unusual punishment!

I've never seen any of these morphs. Here in the St. Louis area, all I see are the normal colored ones. There were probably morphs at Tinley Park when I went, but was BP obsessed and didn't pay much attention.

You know, my two biggest BP girls are right around 6', a BCI isn't that much bigger.......
No, they really aren't! At least the males aren't. The females do get a bit bigger, especially the "true" red tails (BCCs). But the males really do stay a very managable size.

Curse you both for getting into my head like this! Muaahahhaa!! That is my evil little plan - over take the world with boa converts!! :devilish:

Ok, so they need much larger enclosures than a ball does, and they are much more finicky with husbandry issues, and they eat a lot more than a ball does, right ? And you better say yes because I will be in serious trouble if you say no. And, well, yes, the enclosure is a bit larger than a ball would need. Although some folks do keep balls in a 4x2x1 so adding a bit more height isn't usually problematic. Most male BCIs live very comfortably in a 4x2x2. Husbandry is extremely easy - no harder than BPs and very much the same. And they do eat larger rats than a BP would, but adult boas usually should only be fed every 2-3 weeks so they eat less often than a BP. Does that get me into trouble????? Because I know you want one..... :D

Gale

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And to add to the mix, here is my baby female Sunglow Arabesque, Pandora. She carries a pattern gene, Arabesque, which gives her that stripey look, and a Sunglow is both albino and hypomelanistic. She is a wee little worm at only 4 1/2 months old and weighing in currently at 131gm. By the way, I got her at Tinley Park in October! So, yes, there were some amazing boas there..... Enjoy!!

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/...s/Pandora1.jpg

You guys are awful. Just awful. And I'm sorry for hijacking this thread, but I had no clue there were red tails that looked like this. I've always found just the normal ones beautiful, especially with the really deep red tail. And now all these colors and patterns and my mind is blown!

My biggest ball girls stay in big storage totes, roughly 3' X 18" X 12". So, in all seriousness I really wouldn't need that much bigger of an enclosure to house one. Do they grow fairly slowly like a ball, or ridiculously fast like a corn ? I guess what I am asking is, would a tub the size of the ones my female balls are in be sufficient for a couple of years while the little one grows, or is it going to need a full size enclosure by the time it's a year old ?

And of course, these morph BCI's are really, really expensive. I imagine yours was what, $2 or 3K ? Right ? No way can I afford one for a long time, right ? Please say yes they are expensive.

Gale

I paid $200 for her, at not quite a year old.
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And I think $60-$80 for him, as a tiny baby.
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Gosh I want one!!! Must get bigger apartment or house soon!!!!!

Boas are amazing! My Damon loves to be out and about!

You guys are killing me! I mean it, your killing me!

Ok, so the next show I go to, I'll be looking for BCI's. Maybe if I pay close attention to the baby snakes, I'll find a morph one. All the bigger ones I see are just standard color.

Gale

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Lol we got another one!

Very nice albino doc. When are you getting a dumerils? Lol

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Lol we got another one!

Very nice albino doc. When are you getting a dumerils? Lol

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Haha, my next addition is a GTP. I'm waiting on weather for him to get here.

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Lol we got another one!

Very nice albino doc. When are you getting a dumerils? Lol

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Yay!!! Success!!!

Gale, some morphs really ARE that expensive. The Raptor, fairly new here in the US, is fetching about 5000-8000 depending on coloration and the super is well over 12k. BUT there are many morphs that are much more reasonalble. Albinos are in the 200 range, sunglows are running around 400. I paid 600 for Pandora, but she's also arabesque and her albino gene is the coral line which gives her that beautiful pink hue, plus she's a possible super arabesque so that adds to the price as well. Anyhow, hypos (pink and orange) are gorgeous and even less than albinos at around 140-180 and anerys (black and silver) run around that too. Combine hypo and anery and you have a ghost which will push up around 300. Snows (solid white) will be around 600.

And that tub size you mentioned will do fine for a baby through juvenile. And they do grow slowly. My 2 1/2 year old Argentine male is still in a 41qt tub in my BPs' rack (although I do want to move him into his 4x2x2 by fall - so he'd be about 3yrs old when I do that). And actually, I think that tub size you have is bigger than the 41qt??? If so, it'll do fine even longer. You'll know when he's outgrown it, but if you start with a baby it'll take a while. :gj:

Just admit it, you've crossed over!!! :D

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And to add to the mix, here is my baby female Sunglow Arabesque, Pandora. She carries a pattern gene, Arabesque, which gives her that stripey look, and a Sunglow is both albino and hypomelanistic. She is a wee little worm at only 4 1/2 months old and weighing in currently at 131gm. By the way, I got her at Tinley Park in October! So, yes, there were some amazing boas there..... Enjoy!!

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/...s/Pandora1.jpg

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Drooooooooool!

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