I knew it!!!!!! :D

MY BABY BALL PYTHON HAS EATEN!!!! FINALLY, AFTER 2 AND A HALF MONTHS, SHE HAS EATEN!!!!!!

It wasn't the size of the tank like you guys said! It wasn't stress! She is a picky, PICKY little ***** of a Ball Python! XD! She needs LIVE mice! She ate immediately! I'M SO HAPPY!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:banana::banana::banana::ban ana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::bow::bow::bow:

What was she eating before?
Almost all will hit a live mouse before anything else regardless of other issues;)

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What was she eating before?
Almost all will hit a live mouse before anything else regardless of other issues;)

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No, I got her at my Petsmart and it's unknown if she EVER ate! Didn't eat for Petsmart or me! UNTIL NOW! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

petsmart was feeding live mice :rolleyes:

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What was she eating before?
Almost all will hit a live mouse before anything else regardless of other issues;)

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This^^^

Live mice are almost always used to jump start non feeders because of how much they like em. Even when stressed and what not, most will still strike and eat a live mouse :) Just food for thought ;)

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petsmart was feeding live mice :rolleyes:

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No, and they don't even sell feeder mice.

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No, and they don't even sell feeder mice.

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Whatever you want to believe as there policy says, I know better because I have been behind the "closed" doors.:rolleyes:
If they don't eat f/t then the "vet" starts them on live. They are not going to let animals/money die.

PetSmart does NOT feed live. Couldn't say about their vet. The clinics in their stores are not affiliated with the store itself. They just share a building. And the store employees don't take hunger striking snakes to the vet.

You know son, you came on here asking for help. When everybody told you what they thought was the problem you did everything you could to dispute it. Now that your snake has finally eaten, mostly because of the suggestions of those members on here who tried to help, you come back basically telling everyone they were wrong. I think you could use a little growing up and some humility. I'll leave you to all of your own wisdom from now on, as you clearly know best. Color me gone.

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PetSmart does NOT feed live. Couldn't say about their vet. The clinics in their stores are not affiliated with the store itself. They just share a building. And the store employees don't take hunger striking snakes to the vet.

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I know more than 15 employees here in SA that cant say otherwise due to company policy, but petco also feeds live too.
So you better check again

@ thesnakeguy.............. BTW they don't sex or assist feed either, right?
The manager at "my" local store now know how to pop their balls.

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You know son, you came on here asking for help. When everybody told you what they thought was the problem you did everything you could to dispute it. Now that your snake has finally eaten, mostly because of the suggestions of those members on here who tried to help, you come back basically telling everyone they were wrong. I think you could use a little growing up and some humility. I'll leave you to all of your own wisdom from now on, as you clearly know best. Color me gone.

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Quite the contrary. I believe you could use some growing up in the "don't jump to conclusions" field. The advice was all useful, I'm simply stating the fact of what the issue was and letting you know what it was not. I am not spitting in anyone's face here. You've been QUITE hostile to me since I've joined this site, and I know a thing or two about cold demeanor as I can switch very easily. It's not my fault if you feel the need to paint me as a punk.

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I know more than 15 employees here in SA that cant say otherwise due to company policy, but petco also feeds live too.
So you better check again

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Not sure where you live, but Virginia Petsmarts do not even carry feeders. Every Petco here does, however.

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I am not spitting in anyone's face here.

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Your first post here sure did seem that way.

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Not sure where you live, but Virginia Petsmarts do not even carry feeders. .

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They call them "pets". What make the difference to you. A feeder mouse is $1.99 and a pet mouse is $5.99 :rofl::rofl::rofl:

I'm not going to argue what petsmart tells anyone verses what they do behind closed doors anymore.
Its a mute point.
Then again you cant post anything on the internet that isn't true either.;)
I'm a french model:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

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Your first post here sure did seem that way.


They call them "pets". What make the difference to you. A feeder mouse is $1.99 and a pet mouse is $5.99 :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Ah, so it's not "The Petsmarts where I live DO sell feeder mice", it's "They sell Fancy Mice, big deal".

Let's analyze this. 1. They're not bred for food. 2. They're bigger than feeder mice. 3. It is stealing away pets from people who could use one in their lives (I hate depriving children of joy, usually). 4. They're 3-5 times as expensive.
I'm curious as to why all this hostility is needed. Perhaps you want to keep this site "age pure"? Fact of the matter is, I'm human, as are you and Redlitmars. I'm very grateful that the news of my animal being brought back from the brink of death offends you in some way, I most definitely didn't need the happiness. :mad:

It all wrong, they don't even eat rode ya, they eat crickets!!! I feed all my balls crickets, if you don't, you are doing it wrong!!! Lmao

Why can't we all just get along?!!!?!!!?!!!


Ball Pythons
0.3 Normals (Coilette, Athena and Mary Jane)
1.0 Pastel (De Sol)
1.0 Spider (Zeus)
1.0 Mojave (Prometheus)

Boa Constrictors
0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (Stella)
0.1 BCI (Kiyoko)
0.1 Dumerils Boa (Gloria)

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It all wrong, they don't even eat rode ya, they eat crickets!!! I feed all my balls crickets, if you don't, you are doing it wrong!!! Lmao

Why can't we all just get along?!!!?!!!?!!!


Ball Pythons
0.3 Normals (Coilette, Athena and Mary Jane)
1.0 Pastel (De Sol)
1.0 Spider (Zeus)
1.0 Mojave (Prometheus)

Boa Constrictors
0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (Stella)
0.1 BCI (Kiyoko)
0.1 Dumerils Boa (Gloria)

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My thoughts exactly. Evidently redlitmars and pitontheprowl have some form of bias towards me that I cannot fathom. I'm not too keen on people who make problems where there are none to be found.

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I'm not going to argue what petsmart tells anyone verses what they do behind closed doors anymore.
Its a mute point.
Then again you cant post anything on the internet that isn't true either.;)
I'm a french model:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

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Uhhhh, bonjour

:D

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I'm curious as to why all this hostility is needed. Perhaps you want to keep this site "age pure"? Fact of the matter is, I'm human, as are you and Redlitmars. I'm very grateful that the news of my animal being brought back from the brink of death offends you in some way, I most definitely didn't need the happiness. :mad:

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:confusd::confusd::confusd:What is "age pure" You need to keep in mind that this is a msg board and there are no facial expressions here and we cannot read you mind being sarcastic or not. If you type out something that sound smart donkey then I take it as you type it. So you were right and we were wrong is exactly how you started this thread. Right or wrong? I could go back and quote if you would like.

How is your snake not eating "the brink of death?" Two months is nothing, I have a spider that would kill you because he only eats three or four times a year.

We are all here to help each other out even if we don't like or want to hear the answers we get.;)

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Uhhhh, bonjour

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bonjour Zombie-FiFi

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My thoughts exactly. Evidently redlitmars and pitontheprowl have some form of bias towards me that I cannot fathom. I'm not too keen on people who make problems where there are none to be found.

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Just my opinion, but you did kinda seem like you were coming here to say you were right and everyone else was wrong. As both Pit and I were trying to explain to you, BPs will generally not turn down a live mouse. Doesn't mean you necessarily fixed the problem that had her not eating.

I also know people who work at petsmart and they feed their reptiles basically anything they will eat to keep them alive. Including live, FT, mice, or rats. Sometimes they do things they don't discuss with everyday customers.

Pet mice and feeder mice are pretty much the same thing with a different price. Petco even sells their retired breeders as pets. That's why we don't buy rats from there to breed for our own snake food.

OP, just relax and make sure your husbandry is spot on. Don't argue with people when they give you advice. If you don't agree with the advice and choose not to try it, that's up to you. But when people with a lot more experience than you tell you something, listening would be the smart thing to do.

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:confusd::confusd::confusd:What is "age pure" You need to keep in mind that this is a msg board and there are no facial expressions here and we cannot read you mind being sarcastic or not. If you type out something that sound smart donkey then I take it as you type it. So you were right and we were wrong is exactly how you started this thread. Right or wrong? I could go back and quote if you would like.

How is your snake not eating "the brink of death?" Two months is nothing, I have a spider that would kill you because he only eats three or four times a year.

We are all here to help each other out even if we don't like or want to hear the answers we get.;)

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bonjour Zombie-FiFi

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Two and a half months is A LOT for a hatchling who may never have eaten in her life. She has folds upon folds of loose skin from not eating, thankfully she has now eaten. And I considered it an emergency situation. *Sighs* But alright. As long as no one assumes that I'm automatically wanting to be a jerk (if I am it's easier to tell, I don't believe in suppression), let's talk pleasantries. My Petsmart hadn't a clue what they were doing, sadly.

Also, the "I KNEW IT!!!!!!" was in reference to my faith in God and my snake to eat eventually.

My local petco isn't bad haha idk good luck with your snake hope she keeps eatting for you soon you won't take feeding strikes serious my ball hasn't ate in a month and a half and my carpet is on two months but weights staying good

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Evidently redlitmars and pitontheprowl have some form of bias towards me that I cannot fathom. I'm not too keen on people who make problems where there are none to be found.

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I some how missed this post. You don't know squat because if you did you know I would tell you how big to make it and where to shove it.;)
I am not bias with anyone, if your feelings get hurt that easily then you better block me now.:gj:
Fix your husbandry FIRST then come debate with the big boys.

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I some how missed this post. You don't know squat because if you did you know I would tell you how big to make it and where to shove it.;)
I am not bias with anyone, if your feelings get hurt that easily then you better block me now.:gj:
Fix your husbandry FIRST then come debate with the big boys.

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See, this an example. That post was made before you showed yourself as sensible. It's 100% ridiculous to get angry over it. If it's not true, fine.

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See, this an example. That post was made before you showed yourself as sensible. It's 100% ridiculous to get angry over it. If it's not true, fine.

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I don't have to show you squat when you came asking for help and didn't like the answers you got.
Sensible only happens when one person likes the responses they get, any other response is then viewed as stupid or unneeded.

I actually used to work for petco. We did feed live mice.... oh and fancy mice and regular feeder mice are exactly the same thing. They just split the litter up in 2 piles and go"oh this side will cost 1.99 but this side were gonna cahrge 5.99 and slap the title of fancy! On them".



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I'm a PetSmart employee in the Pet Care Dept. Glad to hear that the original posted snake is eating. My store does not feed any live mice to snakes. The "Fancy Mice" we sell are too large to be feeders anyway. The store doesn't even have any other than frozen pinkies and fuzzies for store use. A problem with this could be said that the meals are too small for the ball pythons, but the baby corns eat the pinkies just fine. The store also doesn't know the sex of the snakes. They don't pop or probe any snakes because of the risks involved. I'm a snake keeper and my staff knows that so when asked I will pop the ball pythons, but I'm not comfortable doing it to the tiny corn snakes. As far as I know we've never assist fed either. None of our snakes stay at the store long enough to miss more than a couple meals. And I have yet to see a snake get returned because of failing health. I'm not saying this to try to make my store look good in any way. Just to make the point that we take care of our animals. Anyone who has heard of a store assist/force feeding or feeding live needs to report that store to the advisement phone number listed on the animal habitats in store. Just report it, don't condemn the nationwide specialty store because of a few rule breakers. I'm sure I'm not the only PetSmart employee who is a user of this site.

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I'm a french model:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

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Holla!

I'm not taking sides on this, but in regard to the policies of the stores mentioned, could it be that it depends on where they're at? My local PetSMART doesn't sell live feeders, and if you tell them that's what it's for, they won't sell you a rodent ever. I know because I tried and the girl remembered me from the previous week and refused. My PetCO does sell live feeders, but they are the same as "pet" mice. As in, same bin, same price, same everything...well, except for life expectancy.

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I'm a PetSmart employee in the Pet Care Dept. Glad to hear that the original posted snake is eating. My store does not feed any live mice to snakes. The "Fancy Mice" we sell are too large to be feeders anyway. The store doesn't even have any other than frozen pinkies and fuzzies for store use. A problem with this could be said that the meals are too small for the ball pythons, but the baby corns eat the pinkies just fine. The store also doesn't know the sex of the snakes. They don't pop or probe any snakes because of the risks involved. I'm a snake keeper and my staff knows that so when asked I will pop the ball pythons, but I'm not comfortable doing it to the tiny corn snakes. As far as I know we've never assist fed either. None of our snakes stay at the store long enough to miss more than a couple meals. And I have yet to see a snake get returned because of failing health. I'm not saying this to try to make my store look good in any way. Just to make the point that we take care of our animals. Anyone who has heard of a store assist/force feeding or feeding live needs to report that store to the advisement phone number listed on the animal habitats in store. Just report it, don't condemn the nationwide specialty store because of a few rule breakers. I'm sure I'm not the only PetSmart employee who is a user of this site.

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Most petsmarts in my area are terrible about their reptile husbandry. My wife and I have reported lethargic and half dead reptiles to management numerous times. They always come back with a "oh they just got that way today" or some BS line. I am not saying they are all bad by any means. I have seen more bad than good tho.

Their stick on hygrometers and thermometers are a joke. The animals are deliberately under fed so they "don't get too big" while at the store. As well as a few other things. I am not condemning them all, but there is a lot of ignorance in petco and petsmart when it comes to reptiles.

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Just to make the point that we take care of our animals. Anyone who has heard of a store assist/force feeding or feeding live needs to report that store to the advisement phone number listed on the animal habitats in store. Just report it, don't condemn the nationwide specialty store because of a few rule breakers. I'm sure I'm not the only PetSmart employee who is a user of this site.

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And this is why I wouldn't mention the store on employees here or any where. They have my number and call me when needed.:cool:

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And this is why I wouldn't mention the store on employees here or any where. They have my number and call me when needed.:cool:

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Absolutely. I'd help them get their husbandry good as well and help educate. The ones I have been to around here seem to be thick headed and un wanting of advice or help.

I don't blame the company necessarily. Just the employees/management that chooses to not learn how to do things correctly.