Un-bred female only seeking cool side?

I have a 2010 female Spider I bought about a month ago. She was around 1300g when I bought her and is just over 1600g now.

The breeder told me she was a virgin and had not ever been paired when I bought her. She has not been paired with any males here. I am just confused by some of her behavior.

For the past two weeks she has only been seeking the cool side of her enclosure. Literally refuses to ever sit on the heat. (warm side is around 90 degrees, cool side around 75). Also, I often find her sitting in a perfect coil, as a female would coil on eggs. She has eaten like a MONSTER since she got here... Hence the 300g weight gain in just over a month... She just seems to be showing some behavior that a breeding/building female might show, yet she has not been bred. The breeder assured me again that she had never been paired. I am saving her for a male that is not ready to breed yet, so wasn't going to breed her at all this year. Ideas on why a female would be acting this way that hasn't been bred?

Throw a male on her, she wants to breed. :D

Snakes sometimes just do what they want, and more than capable of doing exactly what you're describing without ever having been introduced to a male.

Females develop follicles with out a male present...From the way she's eating she's ready to breed...She may already have follicles...Have you palpated her?

If she develops follicles and you don't breed her she will absorb the follicles...Then you have missed your chance for the year...

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Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict

Females develop follicles with out a male present...From the way she's eating she's ready to breed...She may already have follicles...Have you palpated her?

If she develops follicles and you don't breed her she will absorb the follicles...Then you have missed your chance for the year...

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Ok, well elaborate on this for me then....

I have a male that I want to breed to her... But hes only around 4 months old and 350g. So I know he wont be ready for atleast a few more months. So if she is developing now, and reabsorbs if not bred soon, will that delay her from breeding in 4-5 months when he's ready? Breeding them as soon as he was ready was my original plan...

Basically, if its going to be a year before she developes follicles again, I may as well breed her with a different male that is ready now, because it will be another year before she will develope again anyways?

Well this may sound crazy but 2 seasons ago a local breeder and friend of mine bred a male at 6 weeks old. I'd say try your male. And if he doesn't take then put another male with her. Because she will resorb if you don't and it will most likely next season before she will take.

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Originally Posted by ChrisS

Well this may sound crazy but 2 seasons ago a local breeder and friend of mine bred a male at 6 weeks old.

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That doesn't sound crazy, more like dumb :(
Males at 6 weeks old have no business being put with any female.

Palpate her and keep palpating and if the male isn't ready when she goes into glow put another male with her.

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

That doesn't sound crazy, more like dumb :(
Males at 6 weeks old have no business being put with any female.

Palpate her and keep palpating and if the male isn't ready when she goes into glow put another male with her.

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Why not, he was producing plugs and the female took. You shouldn't put him with multiple females. But if he's ready to go I see no adverse problems. It's not like breeding a female that is too small.

hold on, first what is the male that you're waiting to get to size for that female spider?

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Originally Posted by don15681

hold on, first what is the male that you're waiting to get to size for that female spider?

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A Pastel Enchi. The male I would put to her now if I needed to to not waste a whole year is a proven Lesser.

the reason I asked is if the snake you are trying to get to size was recessive. I would say wait, keep that breeding pure. it's all up to you. The pastel enchi would be nice. you could wait, she's going to build first before she reabsorbs. depending where she's at in her cycle should give you some time. careful placing him in too soon. some males will go off feed durning breeding. you need to find someone close that can help you determine her follicle size. that info would help you a lot. if you were closer, I have an ultrasound which would pinpoint where she's at. good luck don

So I guess my question now is how much time do I have until she'll reabsorb? I know you cant say exactly... But from when they start developing follicles how long till they will reabsorb if not bred? I popped the Pastel Enchi today and no sperm plugs yet.. As I figured. The plan was to breed the Pastel Enchi w her ASAP...A few more months I figured... But if shes going to reabsorb and its going to be a year before shell be ready again anyways I may as well breed her with the Lesser this year.

As far as feeling for follicles... I dont know why I can't figure it out! This is my 3rd year breeding ball pythons and have just never been able to get it... I try feeling for them every year with females and feel nothing... Then get eggs from them... Pretty lame

some females go thru their cycle fast and some take forever. my female fire last year had 35 mm follicles in june and didn't have her clutch until mid january. you can always start with the lesser and when the enchi pastel is ready use him at the end. you would at least have a chance for the enchi pastel. good luck don

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Originally Posted by ChrisS

Why not, he was producing plugs and the female took. You shouldn't put him with multiple females. But if he's ready to go I see no adverse problems. It's not like breeding a female that is too small.

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I pop young males all the time and I have never seen one have plugs before 2 1/2 months old and even then imo it would be dumb to pair them.
I pair 400+ gram males but 6 week old males, jeezus have some patience

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Originally Posted by BaierBalls

So I guess my question now is how much time do I have until she'll reabsorb? I know you cant say exactly... But from when they start developing follicles how long till they will reabsorb if not bred? I popped the Pastel Enchi today and no sperm plugs yet.. As I figured. The plan was to breed the Pastel Enchi w her ASAP...A few more months I figured... But if shes going to reabsorb and its going to be a year before shell be ready again anyways I may as well breed her with the Lesser this year.

As far as feeling for follicles... I dont know why I can't figure it out! This is my 3rd year breeding ball pythons and have just never been able to get it... I try feeling for them every year with females and feel nothing... Then get eggs from them... Pretty lame

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If she slugs out you are looking at a year or so before she would lay again...

I haven't had enough girls absorb follicles to say for sure the time frame needed for the female to recoup...I have asked a few people over the years, but never got any good answers to this questions...

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Originally Posted by ChrisS

Well this may sound crazy but 2 seasons ago a local breeder and friend of mine bred a male at 6 weeks old. I'd say try your male. And if he doesn't take then put another male with her. Because she will resorb if you don't and it will most likely next season before she will take.

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Is that even possible????
I don;t think a male can breed that young.

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Originally Posted by CollideOverMe

Is that even possible????
I don;t think a male can breed that young.

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My apologies, I actually called the breeder and the snake wasn't that young. When I had originally posted I texted a mutual friend of ours and he is the one who assured me the snake was 6 weeks old. It was actually 12 weeks, and 289g. Sorry for the misinformation.

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Originally Posted by ChrisS

My apologies, I actually called the breeder and the snake wasn't that young. When I had originally posted I texted a mutual friend of ours and he is the one who assured me the snake was 6 weeks old. It was actually 12 weeks, and 289g. Sorry for the misinformation.

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It's all good, I could see 3 months old, I've never tried that young but have heard of a few people getting clutches from that young of a male, just not as young as you had first quoted :)
I lost a male to breeding a few years ago, you have to watch those little guys very closely, it doesn't take long for them to lose enough weight to be unhealthy.