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  • 10-29-2012, 12:43 PM
    MrBrute
    Death is KNOCKING!-Feeding Time!
    Yes! How many of you actually have video footage or pics of your SNAKE feeding on LIVE PREY? let's see! lol
  • 10-29-2012, 12:51 PM
    Valentine Pirate
    I'm not a big fan of feeding videos. They're exciting, interesting, and fun for us! But, they really get us a lot of flak elsewhere. I know "If you don't like it, don't watch it" applies, but for some people it's legitimately disturbing footage. They can't help their reactions (phobias, ignorance, willful ignorance) and it can really alienate people from the herp hobby, causing that many more people to root for the various legal restrictions that are building up. Not saying it's bad, or that we're in the moral red for posting them/having them/enjoying them, but it really doesn't help the situation at the moment

    That being said, I've taped a few feedings, but they're stored on my computer for my own viewing and controlled educational situations
  • 10-29-2012, 12:54 PM
    DooLittle
    Check you tube, there should be more than enough of them there.

    Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2
  • 10-29-2012, 01:11 PM
    RoseyReps
    I only have a pic or two of my lesser pastel eating a f/t rat. Which is like a rat pup..nothing too exciting.
    Honestly though, how can you tell the difference in a picture? (IE the actual eating part / coiling) I mean..it's not like it has icicles hanging off it's whiskers or anything.
    Except for maybe the last medium rat I fed my big girl...Decided to try the "Overnight in the fridge" thaw method. Woke up to a rat with one helluva nose bleed. His head was covered in blood by the time I fed him to my girl...I honestly think the look she gave me was "What the HECK did you do to this thing mom?! GEEZ! Beat the crap out of it much?" ok probably not...more like "Nomnomnom"....but whatever. I entertain myself.
  • 10-29-2012, 01:29 PM
    Mike41793
  • 10-29-2012, 01:50 PM
    MrBrute
    Re: Death is KNOCKING!-Feeding Time!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DrDooLittle View Post
    Check you tube, there should be more than enough of them there.

    Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2

    i'm looking videos or pics from people i actually chat with. Thanks

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    AMAZING!!!! Thanks for sharing!
  • 10-29-2012, 02:44 PM
    iCandiBallPythons
    Type youtube.com into your browser, type live feeding into the search bar and knock yourself out :rolleyes:
  • 10-29-2012, 03:06 PM
    Austin C.
    I got a kick out of feeding live when I was like age 13-16 now that I'm much more experienced and older I don't see the need to feed live prey unless the snake refuses F/T or P/K prey. I don't watch my snakes eat, I feed them at night then turn the light off and leave the snake room so they can eat in peace without some giant watching over them lol.
  • 10-29-2012, 03:33 PM
    Chkadii
    I find the process interesting as a byproduct of wanting to understand the ball python's behavior, but I don't care to watch the feeders die for the sake of them dying. It's especially upsetting when it isn't a "clean" kill. I'm about to start the conversion to F/T now that he has some weight on him, so hopefully I won't have to deal with live feeders for a while afterwards. At least, until I get another snake. :rolleyes:
  • 10-29-2012, 05:35 PM
    MrBrute
    Re: Death is KNOCKING!-Feeding Time!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by icandiballpythons View Post
    type youtube.com into your browser, type live feeding into the search bar and knock yourself out :rolleyes:

    scram!
  • 10-29-2012, 05:40 PM
    DooLittle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MrBrute View Post
    scram!

    This is a public forum, where everyone is entitled an opinion...;). You are not always going to get answers you like, or want.

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  • 10-29-2012, 05:44 PM
    I-KandyReptiles
    I feed live, but have no need to video tape their feedings.
  • 10-29-2012, 06:55 PM
    John1982
  • 10-29-2012, 07:09 PM
    MrBrute
    Re: Death is KNOCKING!-Feeding Time!
  • 10-29-2012, 07:14 PM
    ewaldrep
    That double kill is pretty sweet, not sure if I would attempt it but it is cool. I have one that I feed live, she has refused three times, one pre-k and two f/t. Hopefully I will get her to switch soon as well but I haven't video taped a feeding and not sure if I will, but I'm not against showing it if I did.
  • 10-29-2012, 07:49 PM
    wolfy-hound
    I don't find any enjoyment out of watching a feeder die. Normally, I think someone who does love to watch the rodents die is a little twisted in a way I don't appreciate.

    That's of course different from enjoying watching your snake eat, or watching your snake strike and wrap. It's a subtle difference. But if your snake strikes and coils a FT, what possible difference is there is having the prey be alive? The snake does everything the same usually, because to the snake, the prey is alive(that's why we warm them up to simulate a live animal).

    Understand, I'm not against feeding live. I normally feed live because I raise them here, and it's way more convenient for me. But I don't enjoy the death of anything, not even a bug.
  • 10-29-2012, 07:51 PM
    iCandiBallPythons
    Re: Death is KNOCKING!-Feeding Time!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MrBrute View Post
    scram!

    I suggested where you could find these vids/pics , even made it easy for you:gj: "Scram?"LOL @ you lil guy!And who are you btw?? Just a quick lil FYI for you....I've been active on this forum for quite awhile and I will be on this forum FOR A LONG LONG LONG (ok, one more...) LONG TIME TO COME
  • 10-29-2012, 08:02 PM
    Solarsoldier001
    Double kill is awesome!


    Sent from iPhone 5 using tapatalk :)
  • 10-29-2012, 08:04 PM
    ironpython
    I don't have a problem with folks posting pics of feeding, but to be honest I breed rats for feeding because I can't rely on local supplies always and I'm enjoying the rats but I gotta be honest with you I feel evil watching them suffer and I'm thinking of gasping them or something.

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  • 10-29-2012, 08:31 PM
    MrBrute
    Re: Death is KNOCKING!-Feeding Time!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Solarsoldier001 View Post
    Double kill is awesome!


    Sent from iPhone 5 using tapatalk :)

    It sure was!
  • 10-29-2012, 09:03 PM
    Flikky
    Re: Death is KNOCKING!-Feeding Time!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iCandiBallPythons View Post
    I suggested where you could find these vids/pics , even made it easy for you:gj: "Scram?"LOL @ you lil guy!And who are you btw?? Just a quick lil FYI for you....I've been active on this forum for quite awhile and I will be on this forum FOR A LONG LONG LONG (ok, one more...) LONG TIME TO COME

    Yes
  • 10-29-2012, 11:29 PM
    DooLittle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iCandiBallPythons View Post
    I suggested where you could find these vids/pics , even made it easy for you:gj: "Scram?"LOL @ you lil guy!And who are you btw?? Just a quick lil FYI for you....I've been active on this forum for quite awhile and I will be on this forum FOR A LONG LONG LONG (ok, one more...) LONG TIME TO COME

    Don't know about you, but apparently he didn't like my answer either, and gave me negative rep. Way to go Mr. Brute, good use of that button. ;)

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  • 10-29-2012, 11:37 PM
    Mike41793
    Enjoying animal torture at a younger age is a trait many serial killers share.

    I dont videotape any of my feedings either. I dont see a point to it. I only have one live feeder. I watch just long enough to make sure she got a good strike (bc im over protective lol) and then close the tub. I dont have any interest in watching rats die lol.

    Those pictures i took were for specific reasons mostly. Otherwise i dont document it.
  • 10-29-2012, 11:40 PM
    Capray
    My friend took a video of Indy killing a rat, but I don't have it here... also theres plenty vids on youtube.
  • 10-29-2012, 11:53 PM
    John1982
    Re: Death is KNOCKING!-Feeding Time!
    I figured the OP had more of a morbid fascination in the death sequence as opposed to enjoying animal torture. I can say as a kid I was more intensely interested and excited by the process and while I've always felt bad for the prey I also recognize my responsibility to feed the animals I keep. I don't think feeding live is a form of torture either..
  • 10-30-2012, 01:05 AM
    luvmyballs
    Re: Death is KNOCKING!-Feeding Time!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DrDooLittle View Post
    Don't know about you, but apparently he didn't like my answer either, and gave me negative rep. Way to go Mr. Brute, good use of that button. ;)

    Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2

    The guy gave you negative rep??? What the hell. Sounds rather trollish to me.
  • 10-30-2012, 02:17 AM
    Nim
    Because of the conversation going on, I feel I need to preface this post...

    I'm not particularly intrigued by the death of an animal. I do however, enjoy the site of the strike and coil, as well as the process the snake goes through to consume his prey. I've started to make the feeding videos for that reason. It also gives me something to do while monitoring the live feeding to make sure nothing goes wrong.

    This is the second recorded live feeding I've made. Nim's 4th feeding while in my care, so far. And the best video yet. I haven't seen/heard of other snakes/owners feeding by hand. He's usually hungry enough that the mouse doesn't leave my hand before he strikes it(I assume he can also sense that its in/near the cage).

    The exciting part is in the first 00:12 seconds of the video, if you watch anything after that you'll witness the death struggle and consumption.


    Here is the video.
  • 10-30-2012, 02:43 AM
    arialmt
    Re: Death is KNOCKING!-Feeding Time!
    Quote:
    Sweeeet.
  • 10-30-2012, 06:10 AM
    therunaway
    This guy's just rude. If you want to watch videos from people you "chat" with, you should start being more polite so you'll have people to chat with, and besides what're you gonna discuss "Oh man, did you see how it's eyes bulged out and how the snakes mouth was open so wide!"? No, that's just sick. It would be really shameful if a 13 year old (me) is a lot more polite and respectful of others than (using an example here) 20-40 year old person. Sorry for the rant, but Malcolm has been here for a while and is always really helpful and doesn't deserve that kind of response, he was only trying to help.
  • 10-30-2012, 06:35 AM
    rabernet
    Re: Death is KNOCKING!-Feeding Time!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nim View Post
    Because of the conversation going on, I feel I need to preface this post...

    I'm not particularly intrigued by the death of an animal. I do however, enjoy the site of the strike and coil, as well as the process the snake goes through to consume his prey. I've started to make the feeding videos for that reason. It also gives me something to do while monitoring the live feeding to make sure nothing goes wrong.

    This is the second recorded live feeding I've made. Nim's 4th feeding while in my care, so far. And the best video yet. I haven't seen/heard of other snakes/owners feeding by hand. He's usually hungry enough that the mouse doesn't leave my hand before he strikes it(I assume he can also sense that its in/near the cage).

    The exciting part is in the first 00:12 seconds of the video, if you watch anything after that you'll witness the death struggle and consumption.


    Here is the video.

    Most of us don't feed by hand because a) it's not necessary (and I've fed over 15K live feedings) and b) when your snake gets bigger, the odds of going for the larger heat signature (your hand) is much higher, and we're simply not interested in our hands being mistaken for the prey item.

    You don't see it often, because those who have done it in the past quickly learn that it's a foolish way to feed. ;)

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iCandiBallPythons View Post
    I suggested where you could find these vids/pics , even made it easy for you:gj: "Scram?"LOL @ you lil guy!And who are you btw?? Just a quick lil FYI for you....I've been active on this forum for quite awhile and I will be on this forum FOR A LONG LONG LONG (ok, one more...) LONG TIME TO COME

    Agreed. Telling a veteran to "scram" is just rude.

    His post was on point - you don't truly "know" anyone here - you haven't been here long enough. Suggesting to search Youtube was a reasonable response. Neg repping other members to "return the favor" is also against the site TOS and can result in your ability to give reputation to be taken away as it falls under Rep Abuse and/or Retaliation Games



    It is a great way to make friends though! :gj::cool:
  • 10-30-2012, 09:27 AM
    ballpythonluvr
    Re: Death is KNOCKING!-Feeding Time!
    Some people do like to watch when their snake feeds. I only watch when the snake strikes and coils. As others have said, I do not enjoy watching an animal die. To the OP, it seems like you have a bit of a sadistic mind here. Using the negative rep on people just because they don't agree with you give you what you want is a bit childish IMO. I can't believe that you told a veteran off either. You're a real class act.
  • 10-30-2012, 09:57 AM
    Flikky
    Re: Death is KNOCKING!-Feeding Time!
    He docked my rep too lol. To be fair, I did it to him first because he was just being plain rude and I did not like that at all. That he took mine away because of that shows something about him.
  • 10-30-2012, 10:27 AM
    ktaylor89
    Wow! I'm new too and I would never be so rude to people on a public forum! Especially members who have been here a while and go out of their way to help! I've been on a few other forums where you would get flamed for asking beginner questions so this forum is very "newbie friendly!"
    As far as watching and recording my snakes eat...I hate feeding live because I feel so bad but I understand we have to do what we can to get our snakes to eat. That being said, I do think that wanting to watch it repeatedly like the OP is asking us to post is definitely a bit sadistic and disturbing...
  • 10-30-2012, 04:06 PM
    MrBrute
    lol@me getting rep points deducted? what type of forum is this? If you don't like what I POST, STOP COMMENTING!
  • 10-30-2012, 04:27 PM
    ktaylor89
    Not trying to be rude but how come every post or thread you write has capitalized words? Quit yelling
  • 10-30-2012, 05:01 PM
    Mike41793
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MrBrute View Post
    lol@me getting rep points deducted? what type of forum is this? If you don't like what I POST, STOP COMMENTING!

    Its bc im frustrATEd that i caNT MAKE you stop POSTing. Its like a BAD dream that I CANT WAKE uP FROm...
  • 10-30-2012, 05:09 PM
    ktaylor89
    Re: Death is KNOCKING!-Feeding Time!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Its bc im frustrATEd that i caNT MAKE you stop POSTing. Its like a BAD dream that I CANT WAKE uP FROm...

    ^^^ :rofl: exactly this!! :rofl:^^^
  • 10-30-2012, 06:31 PM
    KThnxBye
    Re: Death is KNOCKING!-Feeding Time!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Enjoying animal torture at a younger age is a trait many serial killers share.

    Good point.

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Its bc im frustrATEd that i caNT MAKE you stop POSTing. Its like a BAD dream that I CANT WAKE uP FROm...

    Hahahah! ;)
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