Words can not describe the way this girl looks.

Enjoy, I still believe she's more than just a 'Het Clown'

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...29150837_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...69456070_n.jpg

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...77221141_n.jpg

Wow! Is she bowl wrapping for ovulation? What was she paired to? Or is she just bowl wrapping for fun :P She's gawjus!

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Wow! Is she bowl wrapping for ovulation? What was she paired to? Or is she just bowl wrapping for fun :P She's gawjus!

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I'm hoping she's bowl wrapping for Ovulation but she's been teasing me for a while :( She was paired to her brother who's another odd one ;)

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...92788806_n.jpg

This is the male and female together, He was a normalish colour to start with but then changed over night to a silver axanthic colour then went to this :( The female changed too but shes got back to her normal tone :)

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...79565277_n.jpg

A photo of the lock excuse the shed it got the male going ;)

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...58436640_n.jpg

Him now,

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...83478735_n.jpg

This was when he had his transformation,

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...62044071_n.jpg

This is what he looked like originally,

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...96492164_n.jpg

Nice! Hope she goes for you! Definitely will keep my eye out for updates on this pairing :gj:

wow, cant wait to see what comes out of this pairing. Goodluck:gj:

I'm just spit balling here but if I had to string some words together to describe her I would say: Creamy fire headed ridiculous bad assness that must be duplicated.

Thanks guys :)

Heres a mixture of colour ;)

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...95355284_n.jpg

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I'm just spit balling here but if I had to string some words together to describe her I would say: Creamy fire headed ridiculous bad assness that must be duplicated.

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Lol mate cheers :) I saw your crazy Lemon Blasts earlier and dang fingers crossed somethings going on there :) First thoughts on the Pin sire is Leopard Pin ;)

She's very interesting - do you have any pictures of her that aren't over exposed to show her a little better?

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She's very interesting - do you have any pictures of her that aren't over exposed to show her a little better?

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I'm not too sure what you mean by over exposed :S But heres a couple of photos which should be better :)

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...17458101_n.jpg

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...60782632_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...02830178_n.jpg

These are from this evening, I thought i'd pop the male in and see what happened and instantly they locked! So who knows still could be a funny clutch in the future lol.

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...08067721_n.jpg

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...92182962_n.jpg

The Male

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...68244277_n.jpg

Wow those hets look amazing, don't some people think het clowns look "different" or have markers anyway?. Maybe these are just displaying extreme het clown markers, either way awesome snakes.

Wow, She is amazing, and definitley keep us posted if she lays...hopefully you'll get clowns! (?) and What on earth is going on with her brother!! His "transformation" phase is STUNNING!:)

Hmm... it's possible that your animals have the IMG gene (increased melanin gene). I don't know of any other trait that can cause rapid color changes like that. It's a possibility that's worth researching.

http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/co...all_python.asp

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Wow those hets look amazing, don't some people think het clowns look "different" or have markers anyway?. Maybe these are just displaying extreme het clown markers, either way awesome snakes.

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Thanks, Some have said you can tell some Het Clowns because they express theirselves visually, The siblings and grand kids of the original pair are exceptional they don't look like your average clown. So we are thinking theres a second gene at play just have to wait and see ;) Its all exciting though.

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Wow, She is amazing, and definitley keep us posted if she lays...hopefully you'll get clowns! (?) and What on earth is going on with her brother!! His "transformation" phase is STUNNING!:)

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Thanks :) I do love this pair, The male is dodgy now though :( I was hoping he went back to normal but thats not looking likely :( Will keep you all posted ;)

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Hmm... it's possible that your animals have the IMG gene (increased melanin gene). I don't know of any other trait that can cause rapid color changes like that. It's a possibility that's worth researching.

http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/co...all_python.asp

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Hi Collrak, I have researched into the IMG gene and also spoke to Ralph about them he believes theres something different going on with them and its just a matter of time to find out, Heck must be something going on Ralph wants hatchlings LOL :)

Photos,

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...17274535_n.jpg

Perfect Lock, She's off feed too now which is very unusual for her so who knows.

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...82614422_n.jpg

This is how the visual clowns look, Photos belong to breeder.

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...40394883_n.jpg

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...05621025_n.jpg

The Hets,

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...06422607_n.jpg

Ok after seeing those clown's that is not just a het clown.. Looks alot like EbN's Puzzle stuff..

She looks like a nice normal who has the typical breeding female "glow" going on. My Cinnamon female looking like an incredible hypo when she got her glow going, and she is normally a dark cinnamon.

After seeing photos of previous offspring and other hets, something else looks to be at play.

Wow man :O Now thats a dinker! Great stuff im sure you have something going on there.

No way those are just clowns either, crazy :rolleye2:

Het clowns are usually very visual and easy to tell from a normal, but those are ridiculous, something else going on there especially after seeing those clowns.

That looks way more than just the "glow" during building! Holy Cow Batman! She's definitely awesome! Don't send Ralph any babies. Just send 'em to me!

Those are crazy looking snakes!!!

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Ok after seeing those clown's that is not just a het clown.. Looks alot like EbN's Puzzle stuff..

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EbN's Puzzle Stuff ??? What are those lol, I haven't a clue what your talking about but they sound cool.

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She looks like a nice normal who has the typical breeding female "glow" going on. My Cinnamon female looking like an incredible hypo when she got her glow going, and she is normally a dark cinnamon.

After seeing photos of previous offspring and other hets, something else looks to be at play.

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If she is glowing then she's been doing it for nearly a year, She and her brother went through a dramatic colour change at around 2 years old both within days of each other. The male went like a really awesome Axanthic the female did too but then they shed again the female ended up like she is now and the male just looks Dirty :( I doubt he will go back to how he used to be :(

The breeder and I do think theres something else going on but the parents that produce them all look completely normal which is what's thrown us all.

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Wow man :O Now thats a dinker! Great stuff im sure you have something going on there.

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LOL :) Thanks I have more Dinkers than normals ;) Never a bad thing though.

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No way those are just clowns either, crazy :rolleye2:

Het clowns are usually very visual and easy to tell from a normal, but those are ridiculous, something else going on there especially after seeing those clowns.

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When I first saw them I instantly thought Granite Clowns but the parents don't look nothing like Granites or anything else for that matter, So the only logical answer would be a double recessive but heck stranger things have happened in this hobby.

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That looks way more than just the "glow" during building! Holy Cow Batman! She's definitely awesome! Don't send Ralph any babies. Just send 'em to me!

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LOL Clark, I don't know if she's building or not shes looked like that for nearly a year now. She's been doing the usual bowl wrapping laying inverted etc but shes been doing that for the past couple of months the male is still locking with her though so who knows. I did tell Ralph that all babies will be staying with me until we know whats going on.

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Those are crazy looking snakes!!!

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Thanks :D

This is them when they were young,

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...26599796_n.jpg

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...35341691_n.jpg

The Male before his colour change,

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...96492164_n.jpg

After

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...19030728_n.jpg