seriously?!!

OK so we bought our 5th and 6th BP today at the Atlanta show!!!! We got a male lesser and a male Mojave! I also lucked out and got a probe kit for cheap! Well our plan was to breed our Mojave and spider to our pastel but so far our spider wasnt getting the job done and we thought maybe he wasn't ready. The mojave of course will be in qt for a while.So I get home today to probe all of our BP and quickly discovered why our spider wasn't getting the job done...our pastel is a male!!! Ugh! The pastel was sold to us as a female so I'm headed back to the Guy who sold her to us tomorrow! I'm so dissappointed! Also our citrus pastel who we thought was a female is a male. Now we have 5.1 and the one female is only 140 gram normal! So...I guess we need to start looking for larger females...lmao.

Are you experienced with probes? In my opinion popping is way more reliable than probing

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I've done both a few times but am no expert by any means! The pastel probed to 8 scales! =/

Yeah there is no way to probe a female as a male unless you force the probe in.

That really sucks. :( This is why I always probe females right when they get home just to make sure. Males are rarely mis-sexed.

I definitely didn't force the probe, actaully probably could have gone a little further but by 6 or 7 scales after probbing TWICE I knew it wasn't a female... oh well... we didn't plan to start breeding for a little bit anyways so we still have some time to get some females together. At least all the boys are up to weight! =)

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Are you experienced with probes? In my opinion popping is way more reliable than probing

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The pastel is almost 2100 grams so I'd rather not pop him. I like the probes so much better.

ROFLMAO I hear you there I got a probe kit as well today and had a fellow herper show me how to probe on my Big 2000G Girl well Dezzie is now Dezmond :) So I know have 3.1 and my only girl is a Pied at 1025 grams :confusd:

You should learn to sex them by feel. On a snake that large, it is a piece of cake,and not invasive at all!

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You should learn to sex them by feel. On a snake that large, it is a piece of cake,and not invasive at all!

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Before I learned how to sex, a breeder/pet store owner with 25+ yrs experience, was trying to tell me about feeling for gender. He got 3 of 4 wrong when attempting to sex my snakes by feel. I'm sure it can be done, but popping and probing is a definite when you know what you're doing...

So is feeling, I haven't got one wrong yet. It's easier to do on mature snakes. Most boa breeders I know use the feeling method exclusively.

How do you learn how to pop or feel? I would really know what sex our snake is and don't know of anyone around to do it for me. There is a guy not too far away, but he has been busy with work and we have not been able to get together.

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How do you learn how to pop or feel? I would really know what sex our snake is and don't know of anyone around to do it for me. There is a guy not too far away, but he has been busy with work and we have not been able to get together.

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Do not probe/pop without being shown. You can easily damage your snake if you do it wrong.

Try posting a wanted ad on a local reptile website or even on here. I posted on my local reptile website and got replies not even an hour later.

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Do not probe/pop without being shown. You can easily damage your snake if you do it wrong.

Try posting a wanted ad on a local reptile website or even on here. I posted on my local reptile website and got replies not even an hour later.

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X2, it's always best to have an experienced person show you beforehand. I nice set of ball tipped probes are nice to have to minimize risk...

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So is feeling, I haven't got one wrong yet. It's easier to do on mature snakes. Most boa breeders I know use the feeling method exclusively.

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Yeah, but..... Comparing a boa to a ball isn't really fair. Boas are larger and like you said, that makes it easier.

I posted asking for help to be shown and had a response within a day. A BP.net member met with me and my daughter and showed us how to pop and probe. Just be specific about you lo cal (town) so readers know where you are and see if anyone responds. Good luck

Dont be too mad................ its got to be a "pastel" thing:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

I have a 1600g gender bender too and a friend of mine has a 1700g one also.
It happens, I now take my probes with me but most of the time I just pop them;)

Matter fact another guy I know has a pastel fe-"male":rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Did you probe both sides? If some one prior to you pushed to hard on a female, it can rupture and go deep. Where are you located?

Or run up to the show today with the pastel and get someone there to pop it for you. Ed with Wildmorph can help. He's there today down the first aisle on the right by the double doors. I was helping him there yesterday.

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If I didn't live in almost Chattanooga I would have taken "him" lol down to be probed for a second opinion. I'm going to try to find someone close to me to get a second opinion.