Another show about exotic animals as pets

I stumbled onto this add on youtube about a new show on National Geographic called Animal Intervention. Looks like another show that's against exotic animal ownership.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0vR-cjEQvg

Seems like it is more of an animal related "Buried alive" about hoarders who have too many animals... Except in this case it is exotic animals...

Though I will say that the lifestyle of the guy in the commercial is probably not advised...

ah yes lets publicise all the irresponsible keepers so we can pass more legislation against keeping exotics all in the name of entertainment. What about a show with responsible keepers...

No kidding.... I mean I can understand people having an issue with exotics being kept (OBVIOUSLY) but some things should not be trifled with. Dangerous big animals are something that should be kept with caution and respect... And it is clear from the commercial that these people are not treating their animals with caution... or the respect they deserve.

I don't see the problem here, I keep a T-Rex in my backyard. /sarcasm


But really, the actions of one will spoil the fun for others.

Just remember that the producers probably encourage a TON of what you see in the show. Remember we've had the "offers" to participate in really cool shows about people with "large collections" and assured that it was all to show people loving their animals, etc etc.?

That's the same tactic they used against people who collection 'things' like comics or toys or star wars. They told the people "We want to share your love of your collection with everyone!" then when they came in, they "redecorated" by moving things around to make it look like the house is totally full and even has walkways blocked by scattered items. They neglected to mention that the comic guy was actually still mid-move and had kept the bulk of his collection in climate controlled storage, NOT filling up his entire house.

I have no doubt that most of the people profiled on the animal versions keep their animals fairly responsibly and the producing paints the 'worst case' scenario however it needs to. If they have a well-known really great keeper of ball pythons on the show, they'd probably present filthy cages, snakes they claim are skinny(because they'll show a blood python then a ball to imply it should be as large as that), snakes out of the cages and small kids handling the animals. Of course the voiceover and end result won't reveal anything about the reality of his well-kept, clean, healthy collection.

So keep that in mind when you start dissing the people shown on tv, and make comments about how it's "obvious" that no one should keep this or that type of animal. Next season it might be you or your friends profiled and all the people watching who never owned a snake will be badmouthing you and the community the same way.

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Originally Posted by eatgoodfood

ah yes lets publicise all the irresponsible keepers so we can pass more legislation against keeping exotics all in the name of entertainment. What about a show with responsible keepers...

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There's no drama in responsible pet owners. A show like that would be boring and thus no one would watch it.

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Originally Posted by Norsejeff

There's no drama in responsible pet owners. A show like that would be boring and thus no one would watch it.

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I like boring, educational shows... :D

I'd much rather watch a boring show on proper keeping of an animal with nice, clean tubs/cages than edited drama crap that twists the facts and makes every little thing out to be an issue. Unfortunately I am the minority here and most people thrive on drama.

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Originally Posted by AK907

I like boring, educational shows... :D

I'd much rather watch a boring show on proper keeping of an animal with nice, clean tubs/cages than edited drama crap that twists the facts and makes every little thing out to be an issue. Unfortunately I am the minority here and most people thrive on drama.

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I miss having non-hyped, educational shows. Can't actually remember the last time I saw one, and haven't had cable in 4 years. Doesn't sound like I'm missing much though

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Originally Posted by Valentine Pirate

I miss having non-hyped, educational shows. Can't actually remember the last time I saw one, and haven't had cable in 4 years. Doesn't sound like I'm missing much though

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Those shows, especially those that pertain to animals and our love for them, died about the same time that Steve Irwin died. Now all you will find on Animal Planet and similar channels are animal hating scare tactic shows fueled by PeTA and HSUS. Pretty much every other channel is filled with crap the media forces down our throats to dumb us down, like "Jersey Shore" and other ridiculous "reality shows". Very, very few decent shows these days.

Now, to their credit, it's aimed at people with lions and tigers, and bears oh my! But, that doesn't mean that people won't lump everyone who has "an exotic animal" in the same circle.


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Not to jump on you here or anyone else Kodieh we're all entitled to our own opinions, but I fail to see any difference between having a lion, tiger or bear compared to having an anaconda, reticulated python, poisonous snake or any other dangerous animal that can kill you. In my personal opinion dangerous exotics are dangerous exotics regardless of the species and if you want to own one you should be aware of the animals needs and know what you're doing before owning one. With that being said, I don't see any reason to bash exotic keepers as long as they are responsible about it.

Coming soon! "Responsible Keeper" a show that gives you insight into the everyday lives of exotic animal owners. Watch as they attempt to remove stuck on poo from sterilite tubs, design and build their next rack system, spend countless hours online searching the newest morphs and try to convince their ball pythons to eat!

LOL :D

When you label retics, bears, or venomous as "dangerous", you should remember that dogs kill more people EVERY YEAR than all those you mentioned added together. In fact, horses kill more. In fact, you could even add in Great Apes to the ones you mentioned and dogs would STILL kill more.

Don't fall for the old PeTa/HSUS tactics. First they ban the "obvious" dangerous species, then it's lesser 'dangerous' species, and then they start pointing out more common animals that are actually MORE dangerous by the math until it's nearly impossible to own any pets at all.

There are tons of people who own things like tigers. It's extremely rare that someone is killed by their pet tiger... in fact, checking the reports.. it's nearly unheard of. No one has been killed by a pet chimp in years. Yet there's thousands upon thousands in private hands. Do not fall for the media put out by Peta/HSUS.

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

When you label retics, bears, or venomous as "dangerous", you should remember that dogs kill more people EVERY YEAR than all those you mentioned added together. In fact, horses kill more. In fact, you could even add in Great Apes to the ones you mentioned and dogs would STILL kill more.

Don't fall for the old PeTa/HSUS tactics. First they ban the "obvious" dangerous species, then it's lesser 'dangerous' species, and then they start pointing out more common animals that are actually MORE dangerous by the math until it's nearly impossible to own any pets at all.

There are tons of people who own things like tigers. It's extremely rare that someone is killed by their pet tiger... in fact, checking the reports.. it's nearly unheard of. No one has been killed by a pet chimp in years. Yet there's thousands upon thousands in private hands. Do not fall for the media put out by Peta/HSUS.

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If dogs truly do kill more humans than all those fore-mentioned animals combined, it is only because of the vast number of them living with humans. I'd be interested in knowing the percentages rather than the actual numbers, tho.

I couldn't agree with you more Wolfy..... which was my point about about Kodieh's post suggesting that they are talking more about "lions and tigers and bears" being more dangerous than other animals. Regardless of the animal, keepers should know how to keep them.

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Originally Posted by Norsejeff

If dogs truly do kill more humans than all those fore-mentioned animals combined, it is only because of the vast number of them living with humans. I'd be interested in knowing the percentages rather than the actual numbers, tho.

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Well, in the past twenty years, only about 10 people have been killed by large constrictors and the vast majority of those were due to owner stupidity.

I honestly am against keeping Tigers as pets outside of a real zoo where the tiger has huge amounts of space, also monkeys.

You would be surprised at the amount of space people will give to their animals. Not everyone lives in the city. Horses usually have several acres with a good keeper.

Oh man a couple of those shots are pretty scary! The animals all looks healthy and clean though. It would be interesting to see what the show was about, we don't have nat geo wild, only nat geo :( Stupid dish, I had to pay extra for Animal Planet and Nat Geo and they don't even give me all of them AND take away Walking Dead :rage:

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Oh man a couple of those shots are pretty scary! The animals all looks healthy and clean though. It would be interesting to see what the show was about, we don't have nat geo wild, only nat geo :( Stupid dish, I had to pay extra for Animal Planet and Nat Geo and they don't even give me all of them AND take away Walking Dead :rage:

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I have chosen not to watch Animal Planet or Nat Geo because of their support for the HSUS and for the Shows they've made that stigmatize exotc animal keeprs.

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Not to jump on you here or anyone else Kodieh we're all entitled to our own opinions, but I fail to see any difference between having a lion, tiger or bear compared to having an anaconda, reticulated python, poisonous snake or any other dangerous animal that can kill you. In my personal opinion dangerous exotics are dangerous exotics regardless of the species and if you want to own one you should be aware of the animals needs and know what you're doing before owning one. With that being said, I don't see any reason to bash exotic keepers as long as they are responsible about it.

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I completely understand your stand point on this, and I do see a difference because it's not in the nature of snakes to "graze". Being that snakes eat their meals whole, they pick and choose their meals by size. A lion, tiger, or bear DOES graze. They kill and tear pieces off, eating as they please. So size doesn't matter.

I understand I'm pretty much splitting hairs here, but it's pretty legitimate. I mean, with all due respect, you're basically saying that a snake just looks at you in a "how can I get that down my throat"/"my next meal! A hand!" every time you open the tub or tank.

So, I mean, maybe I'm romanticizing snakes compared to bears and tigers but thats what I think of when it comes to this show.

Besides, the first episode is about a magician in vegas who is a little too friendly with his cats...


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Most attacks (as far as I know) aren't because the animal is hungry. It's because the animal is :cens0r: or scared. Using a magician as an example.... how would you like to be poked at and bossed around by a little man in a shiny suit? Same thing with a snake but again it's only my opinion.

I recently read an article about a show they were filming. The host the was guy from Fatal Attractions... I believe his name may have been Winston. I'm probably wrong, but he pretends to be some highly respected herpetologist. That couldnt be further from the truth. It takes place at a snake breeders home, a responsible keeper like most of us. The entire time the host keeps telling the man children that your daddy is going to die, the snakes will kill him. I believe this guy only housed ball pythons, but then again I could be wrong again. The entire time the host is there he continues to try and take the mans snakes. He even pulls a van up and tells him that he is going to load the snakes up, no ifs or buts.
I believe the title of the show was going to be " Living with Predators"
This could be a newly renamed show to try and distance it from the negative publicity the old name carried.

There was a gentleman on TV for one of these shows. I can't recall the name of the show, but they were part of the 'Venom Response Unit' or some such thing. Basically, a herp wrangling group that would come in and remove animals from public areas. Including Retics, Tegus and crocs.

The voiceover guy was the ridiculous one. If you tuned him out, you'd listen to the gentleman who was talking on the show. He spoke about an albino Retic killing a toddler back in the day. He said: "What people don't realize is that this animal had not been fed regularly, was being kept in inappropriate conditions, in an inappropriate enclosure. It was not the snakes fault. It is inrresponsible owners that neglect the fact these are powerful animals and require planning and care to keep safely."

But after he said that, the voiceover guy continues to dramatically say how wild animals are crossing paths with more and more humans, presenting more and more dangerous situations that could turn DEADLY! While this is happening, they show a ball python on a fence next to a park with children.

Honestly, the people in the shows aren't always bad. It's how they are presented. I mean, you could walk into my house on a Monday and it'll be clean and spotless. Come by on a Saturday when I decide I don't want to clean that day, and you could easily zoom in on my dirty dishes, unwashed clothes pile and dirty floor and say: "She is living in filth and poor conditions! This is her house on a good day. Can you imagine how she must live when nobody is watching?! We need an intervention for her own health."

I have written in to these shows a few times. Simply because I can't just turn the TV off without telling someone WHY I'm turning my TV off.

You know what my FREAKING FAVORITE part about it is? Has anyone noticed the huge dump of documentaries lately about people working with Great White Sharks and how they aren't the 'deadly eating machines' we once thought they were?

Does no one seen the irony in them showing these shows, followed immediately by "Fatal Attractions" and "Swamp Brothers"?

I'm saddened by the fact that animal planet sold out and abandoned education in favor of drama.
I remember seeing a pulp show on another channel (along the lines of "I Shouldn't Be Alive!") where someone got tagged by a venomous snake. They featured an experienced keeper that talked about all the protocols they had in place to not only prevent incidents, but maximize the effectiveness of treatment post-bite.
I can't remember the circumstances around the person that was bitten (irresponsible keeping/handling or if it was a freak accident in the "wild"), but overall I felt that the tone was respectful, rather than stigmatizing.
And now I turn on animal planet and see a dude in a dilapidated house overrun with "pet" rats, and pitbull puppies euthanized after being "rescued" from dog-fighting rings. :(

Hey Kat, do you mind if put "Responsible Keeper" in my sig?
I admit, I do watch these shows, but it's more of a "know thy enemy" thing, along with morbid fascination. Seriously, it's kind of funny to me to see how they hype up an animal like a BP to be big, scary, and deadly.
On a more serious note, shows like that are the bane of the average exotic keeper. I get asked what I'm going to do when my snake gets big enough to eat me, my cats, etc., or told that I'm cruel for keeping him in an enclosure with every commodity that he could ever ask for. Even my family is asking questions like that, but thankfully they're smart enough to listen to me. You want to talk about cruel, look at my neighbors, but that is a different rant for a different time.

Here's a News video about the show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRFPb...&feature=g-u-u