Hog Island boa cross?

What does people on here think about Hog Island boa/Columbian Red tail mixes? I've been offered a pair for 125 as I hear they are proven breeders and have produce offspring that some look like hog island and others look like red tail. He also said with some crazy patterns and stripes and even some albino. Input?

Personally, I like Hog Isles to be as pure as possible. When you start crossing them, you lose the features that make them Hoggies, i.e.: smaller size, salmon coloration, and speckles. Most distinguished keepers prefer to keep the localities pure.

Pure Hogs only, no mutts.

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Originally Posted by Pythonangel

What does people on here think about Hog Island boa/Columbian Red tail mixes? I've been offered a pair for 125 as I hear they are proven breeders and have produce offspring that some look like hog island and others look like red tail. He also said with some crazy patterns and stripes and even some albino. Input?

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There are no boa constrictors in Columbia, South Carolina. Or Columbia, Missouri or ANY Columbia for that matter.

I happen to have a pair of colombian x hog island. They are about 18 months old right now. I obtained them from a USARK charity auction last year. I couldn't let them go for $20 so I bid $25 and got them! I own several boas but I am not a breeder. As pets they are awesome, but I'm not certain there is a market for breeding them. I will post pics later today if you would like.

We have a pure Hog and love her. If I wanted to breed her, I would get another Hog male.

Hogs were highly threatened from over collection. If they had gone extinct in the wild and we kept crossing them, eventually we would no longer have that pure animal anywhere. I am a firm believer in keeping my localities separate.

When he bought them they were sold to him as pure hog island boa and became upset to find them mixed after breeding them reason why being sold. Was just curious on people's views on these mixes which seems quite considerably most frown upon.. pics are much appreciated :)

I like hog crosses. As long as you say that they are crosses when you breed them.

Keep them pure.

FINALLY HAVE THE PICS... one question is there anyway to distinguish mix from pure??
[IMG]http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...010_083342.jpg[/IMG]
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^ Here's my pure Hog for comparison, those you posted and mine look nothing alike:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...ust1020129.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...ust1020125.jpg

The ones you posted look like like hypo Colombians, here's my female Hypo:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...ps4455af51.jpg

Older photo:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...May2820128.jpg

wow what a difference :0 thank you for the pics

I am a relatively new snake enthusiast. I have two ball pythons, one very young, the other a little older and larger.

I rescued today a Hogg Island/Nic crossbreed. The previous owner gave him to me because she was concerned that he MAY have an RI. I am currently looking for a vet, but wanted to get more info on both the cross breed tempermant and how to handle the RI....


I realize that ANY snake can strike, just like any dog can bite! We do dog rescue as well, so I am very animal friendly. I have handled him a few times today and he really seems just fine!

^ Vet for the RI: RIs are serious and can be deadly if not treated so better safe than sorry. If it's confirmed the snake has an RI the vet should do a culture to prescribe the proper antibiotics.

Most boas are friendly and very inquisitive but it depends on the individual.

Yes your boas look like they are Hypomelanistic B.c.i. hard to say if they have any Hog in them as the Hypo gene would maks the Hog.

PS: Day your Hog is beautiful

Those are gorgeous!

I should also add that I am generally against crosses but doubly so with Hog Island because of their endangered status in the wild.

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For the most part, I firmly believe in keeping things pure with boas. I don't necessarily mind too much if someone breeds crosses so long as they accurately and honestly represent the animals. However, I don't believe there is much of a market for crosses. The boa community is very particular and crosses are just usually frowned upon.

I do, however, strongly oppose crosses of threatened localities and sub-species. Hogs are threatened and so are Argentine boas, for example. It is best for the species to keep these animals as pure as possible to preserve them.

Additionally, most crosses, Hog crosses in particular, seem to just end up looking like ordinary Colombians. Hog crosses do not generally exhibit wild patterns or colors unless there are other genes at work as well. :gj: