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Wrinkled skin? Help!

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  • 08-30-2012, 02:42 PM
    SoonerGirl8
    Wrinkled skin? Help!
    I picked up my snake's water bowl to change the water, and since he perfers to hide under it, I noticed that his skin is really wrinkly.
    He's eaten once since I got him and hasn't shed yet. I haven't noticed clouded eyes of anything like most people say happens.
    Could someone help me get a clue about what's going on?
    The help would be appreiciated!
  • 08-30-2012, 02:56 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    It's probably one of two things, either he is going into shed or he's dehydrated.

    What is the humidity level in the cage? And what are the cage temperatures?
  • 08-30-2012, 02:59 PM
    Skittles1101
    Can you post a picture?
  • 08-30-2012, 03:00 PM
    Capray
    What species is he?
  • 08-30-2012, 03:28 PM
    MrLang
    When I first bought my first snake, the humidity was crap and its first shed made it look like a prune.

    If that's what you have going on here, you should start giving daily soaks or use the pillow case trick to help it re-hydrate and shed properly.

    We need pics to determine if that's what's going on though
  • 08-30-2012, 04:14 PM
    SoonerGirl8
    All Temps are normal, the humidity is at 56%. I will try to get a picture if I can.

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    He's a normal ball, I forgot to mention that
  • 08-30-2012, 04:15 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Boost the humidity up to around 70% this will help in either case. Do NOT soak him as this can cause more harm than good.
  • 08-30-2012, 04:18 PM
    Rydasvp
    Re: Wrinkled skin? Help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    Do NOT soak him as this can cause more harm than good.

    Just for my own personal knowledge how is soaking harmful?
  • 08-30-2012, 04:19 PM
    SoonerGirl8
    Will do. He's over at his water bowl now since I pulled him out to look. I'll try to get pics up here shortly
  • 08-30-2012, 04:20 PM
    jjmitchell
    Re: Wrinkled skin? Help!
    +1 for dehydration or poor himidity and a shed.......
  • 08-30-2012, 04:25 PM
    SoonerGirl8
    What do I do to help if he is dehydrated?
  • 08-30-2012, 05:14 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: Wrinkled skin? Help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rydasvp View Post
    Just for my own personal knowledge how is soaking harmful?

    Soaking is very stressful to a BP, imagine if something 20 times your size picked you us and dropped you in the middle on an ocean. Stress in snakes leads to everything from refused meals to compromised immune systems and should be avoided at all costs.

    Further soaking removes the oils necessary for the shedding process (it dries out their skin just like it does to ours) so when people soak their snake to try to help it shed they are actually making things worse. This differs from soaking a snake after a failed shed. at that point the snake has given up on the shedding process and needs help. soaking can help loosen stuck shed but is still very stressful.

    All in all soaking is never necessary if you maintain proper temperatures/humidity levels (80 degrees cool side, 90 degrees hot side, 50%- 60% humidity normally 60%-80% humidity during shed)

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SoonerGirl8 View Post
    What do I do to help if he is dehydrated?

    raise then humidity, make sure that there is fresh water available to the snake, and make sure that he eats. They get most of their water from the rodents that they eat (66% of a rats body weight is water)
  • 08-30-2012, 05:18 PM
    SoonerGirl8
    Re: Wrinkled skin? Help!
    raise then humidity, make sure that there is fresh water available to the snake, and make sure that he eats. They get most of their water from the rodents that they eat (66% of a rats body weight is water)[/QUOTE]

    I just changed the water out a little bit ago, humdity is up around 68% now so that's getting better. should I also try misting him?
  • 08-30-2012, 05:20 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: Wrinkled skin? Help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SoonerGirl8 View Post
    I just changed the water out a little bit ago, humdity is up around 68% now so that's getting better. should I also try misting him?

    I personally try to avoid directly misting BP's as they don't really seem to like it. You can if you want as it won't hurt him. If you do make sure that the water is room temperature fist.
  • 08-30-2012, 05:23 PM
    SoonerGirl8
    Re: Wrinkled skin? Help!
    Thank you. I will try getting the humidity a little bit higher and if that doesn't work then I'll resort to the mist. I already know Slytherin hates it so I'll try that last if nothing else works.
  • 08-30-2012, 05:39 PM
    Skittles1101
    You still haven't posted a picture, this could be stuck shed and/or dehydration...
  • 08-30-2012, 05:54 PM
    MrLang
    Re: Wrinkled skin? Help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    This differs from soaking a snake after a failed shed. at that point the snake has given up on the shedding process and needs help. soaking can help loosen stuck shed but is still very stressful.

    I should have waited until seeing a picture, but yes, the advice I gave was ONLY if the snake has already failed.
  • 08-30-2012, 06:18 PM
    SoonerGirl8
    [IMG]http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/...e/0bb8b2b8.jpg[/IMG]


    This is the best picture I could get. Sorry I didn't get it sooner.
  • 08-30-2012, 07:13 PM
    darthkevin
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SoonerGirl8 View Post
    [IMG]http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/...e/0bb8b2b8.jpg[/IMG]


    This is the best picture I could get. Sorry I didn't get it sooner.

    Looks like a beginning shed to me can you get a pic of the eyes?
  • 08-30-2012, 07:43 PM
    SoonerGirl8
    I'll try to later because I'm not home right now. When I looked earlier they looked kinda greenish. Definitely, lighter than they typically are
  • 08-30-2012, 09:18 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    That's nothing to worry about, you should see how wrinkly a BP that is going through a bad shed or is dehydrated is.

    I would guess that your BP's eyes will turn blue within the next week. Just keep the humidity above 60% and you should be fine.
  • 08-31-2012, 04:24 AM
    darthkevin
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    That's nothing to worry about, you should see how wrinkly a BP that is going through a bad shed or is dehydrated is.

    I would guess that your BP's eyes will turn blue within the next week. Just keep the humidity above 60% and you should be fine.

    x2
  • 08-31-2012, 04:29 AM
    darthkevin
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SoonerGirl8 View Post
    I'll try to later because I'm not home right now. When I looked earlier they looked kinda greenish. Definitely, lighter than they typically are

    If the eyes are getting lighter that's a tell tale sign if shed. Throw up a pic if you can but it looks to me (and quite a few others) just to be a shed.
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