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  • 08-13-2012, 11:43 AM
    Joshua Jasper
    New Website - Thoughts/input?
    Hey all, I got our new website up and running:

    http://www.wtfmorphsofmanchester.com

    Take a look and let me know what you think! It's very photo heavy, but I think it came out pretty nice. Any input or suggestions are welcome!!

    Also, if you haven't already it would be awesome if you guys could like us on Facebook! We are always posting new photos and updates on our collection!

    http://www.facebook.com/wtfmorphsofmanchester

    Thanks so much everyone!!!
  • 08-13-2012, 12:01 PM
    Maya2012
    Re: New Website - Thoughts/input?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joshua Jasper View Post

    Awe, it's not IPhone friendly :( But I'll FB like atleast :)
  • 08-13-2012, 12:03 PM
    iCandiBallPythons
    I would suggest working in some terms of sale, guarantees etc
  • 08-13-2012, 12:21 PM
    RoseyReps
    Re: New Website - Thoughts/input?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iCandiBallPythons View Post
    I would suggest working in some terms of sale, guarantees etc

    x2
    The layout it nice, pics are great. Shipping info, guarantees, terms, maybe a link or write up of caresheet / info on the bp. (Sorry, I always like to see caresheets on breeders pages, or at least a link to a good one)

    I might downsize the amount of pics on the "python" page. Or, if you definitely want all the pics, Maybe a clickable gallery. IE Large pic, short sentence about the snake, then click through to more pics / more info. Some people want to see multiple pics of your collection, some just want a quality overview at a glance.
    just my :2cent: i'm no web designer or breeder guru :D
  • 08-13-2012, 12:41 PM
    Kinra
    Re: New Website - Thoughts/input?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iCandiBallPythons View Post
    I would suggest working in some terms of sale, guarantees etc

    X3

    I would also try to use your space better. My screen isn't huge, but it still shows up in the center with a lot of the blue background showing.
  • 08-13-2012, 12:51 PM
    Joshua Jasper
    Re: New Website - Thoughts/input?
    Hi all thanks for the input.

    Agreed on the terms and conditions and shipping info. I am in the process of writing those all up for putting on the website. Good call on the care sheet, I had originally wanted to put this up and just missed it when working on the website. Do you guys use the care sheets off here or build your own?

    Thanks for letting me know about the blue background. I was worried that was just because I was viewing it on my larger secondary monitor but I guess. That may be a deal breaker and I have to go back to the drawing board for format.

    Thanks again!
  • 08-13-2012, 02:59 PM
    Kaorte
    Just a tiny aesthetic thing: I see you have a little thumbnail of your logo, and right next to it you have the same text, just bigger. Perhaps you could expand the size of the logo and get rid of the text next to it? Also, I would make the background color of the logo match the background color of that title/link bar. I hope that made sense!

    Looks really good though!
  • 08-13-2012, 03:25 PM
    4Ballz
    I'm in the what's brewing page, I go to click on the home page, and it doesn't work. I'm using firefox. It will only work if I put the mouse below on the line, all the other words work when mouse is over the words.

    The available part, I'd maybe remove those tanks. When going to your site, as a customer I'd be expecting snakes for sale.

    I don't have any snakes ready, or eggs in the incubator. Building a website and not having anything to offer seems like the counting the chickens before they hatch type of deal.

    Trying not to be rude. I want to build my site, but am nowhere close to even having anything to offer. All your "what's brewing say 2013", which is a long way away.

    Pics are great, huge though, but no issues for me. Layout is clean, and easy to browse through.

    Maybe watermark your photos, and you're set.

    - - - Updated - - -

    oh, not sure why the facebook thing on your page says over 260,000 likes, and your actual page has 50. Or is that the company Wix that has those likes?
  • 08-13-2012, 03:40 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: New Website - Thoughts/input?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 4Ballz View Post
    The available part, I'd maybe remove those tanks. When going to your site, as a customer I'd be expecting snakes for sale.

    I don't have any snakes ready, or eggs in the incubator. Building a website and not having anything to offer seems like the counting the chickens before they hatch type of deal.

    Trying not to be rude. I want to build my site, but am nowhere close to even having anything to offer. All your "what's brewing say 2013", which is a long way away.

    I disagree, many breeders have websites and don't have anything on their "available" page. Either everything sells out before they can post it, or they are waiting for eggs to hatch. If we were to keep your mentality that you need animals available to keep the website up, I'd say many breeders would be without a website for 9 months out of the year.

    Nothing wrong with getting a head start on a website, even if you don't have anything available yet. 2013 Is less than 6 months away. I'd say that is actually pretty close.
  • 08-13-2012, 05:31 PM
    4Ballz
    Re: New Website - Thoughts/input?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    I disagree, many breeders have websites and don't have anything on their "available" page. Either everything sells out before they can post it, or they are waiting for eggs to hatch. If we were to keep your mentality that you need animals available to keep the website up, I'd say many breeders would be without a website for 9 months out of the year.

    Nothing wrong with getting a head start on a website, even if you don't have anything available yet. 2013 Is less than 6 months away. I'd say that is actually pretty close.


    he asked for input and suggestions. so I gave mine. just from looking at the site, there is no history to any sales. i'm just giving my input. like I said, I don't have any snakes ready, and wouldn't start advertising something yet. I'd want to have at least 3-4 clutches under my belt before I made it to building my site. I purchased one, but no way is it ready for being posted.

    I have taken a website design course back in 2000. I do have some ideas on what to look for.

    Just because 2013 is 6 months away, doesn't mean anything. I've read a lot of "babies lost" threads on here, and again, never count your chickens before they hatch. His other two "brewing" are for late 2013/2014....which is really far away.

    I've also done a site with a web/server company, and it cost me like $40-60 a month, so it isn't cheap using those companies (times how many months not selling anything?)
  • 08-13-2012, 05:47 PM
    Kaorte
    You have to start somewhere. By having an "available" page or a"whats cooking" "future pairings" page doesn't mean you are counting your chickens before they hatch. It just means you expect to have babies available in the future.

    I still don't see a problem with having a site even though you have nothing available to purchase. I think its VERY harsh to tell someone they shouldn't have a website until they have stuff to sell on it. OP didn't ask for opinions on what he had for sale.

    Taking a web design course 12 years ago "doesn't mean anything". Just like how 2013 being 6 months away "doesn't mean anything".

    My point being, it DOES mean something. You can only have babies once a year. Posting your pairings in advance isn't counting your chickens before they hatch, it is just giving the public information on what your breeding plans are.

    Now if he had animals listed for sale that didn't exist, that would be counting your chickens before they hatch.

    I invite you to check out the websites of many breeders that advertise here, as well as many members who list their sites in their signatures. See how many babies they currently have for sale. You might find that many of them have NOTHING for sale and rarely ever do.

    Having a website isn't just about having things for sale. :/

    Sorry if this seems kinda rude. That comment just irks me and is not something I would like to hear if I were the OP.
  • 08-13-2012, 06:05 PM
    4Ballz
    it's his money, and he can run his site if he wants to. judging by his sig

    WTF Morphs Of Manchester (NH)
    1.1 Jungle/Lemon Pastel
    0.1 Lesser Blackback
    0.1 Axanthic
    0.1 Het Pied Female
    1.0 Mojave
    0.1 Pinstripe
    0.1 Spider
    1.0 Poss DH Tribal/Caramel

    I don't see anything showing. Breeders have their websites for a reason, because they have produced animals.

    I never said "don't have a site", I just suggested a few things. You seemed to over look the nice things I said like "Pics are great, huge though, but no issues for me. Layout is clean, and easy to browse through."

    As someone trying to breed snakes like myself, money can be tight. Running a website on a host server like wix, I'm sure isn't cheap. Especially for anything of 6 months to a year without any sales in between, like shirts, or hats etc.

    He can do whatever he wants. The brewing part I understand. That's fine. I'm holding off my site as it costs money to make the site. again, until I have clutches under my belt, there won't be a site.
  • 08-13-2012, 06:17 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: New Website - Thoughts/input?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 4Ballz View Post
    it's his money, and he can run his site if he wants to. judging by his sig

    WTF Morphs Of Manchester (NH)
    1.1 Jungle/Lemon Pastel
    0.1 Lesser Blackback
    0.1 Axanthic
    0.1 Het Pied Female
    1.0 Mojave
    0.1 Pinstripe
    0.1 Spider
    1.0 Poss DH Tribal/Caramel

    I don't see anything showing. Breeders have their websites for a reason, because they have produced animals.

    I never said "don't have a site", I just suggested a few things. You seemed to over look the nice things I said like "Pics are great, huge though, but no issues for me. Layout is clean, and easy to browse through."

    As someone trying to breed snakes like myself, money can be tight. Running a website on a host server like wix, I'm sure isn't cheap. Especially for anything of 6 months to a year without any sales in between, like shirts, or hats etc.

    He can do whatever he wants. The brewing part I understand. That's fine. I'm holding off my site as it costs money to make the site. again, until I have clutches under my belt, there won't be a site.

    What do you mean by "don't see anything showing"?

    Not all breeders have websites, and not all people with websites have bred. My point is that it doesn't matter how many clutches or how many snakes he has before he can decide on running a site. It is a personal choice, like you said.

    I didn't overlook the nice things you said, I just chose to respond to the particular comment I didn't agree with. I even quoted just that part as to not cause confusion.

    I understand what you mean about the cost of the site. I personally design and manage my own sites, so it is much cheaper to maintain.

    I'm not trying to start a fight. Just bringing up the facts based on my experience with other breeders websites.
  • 08-13-2012, 06:38 PM
    4Ballz
    That's cool. I'm glad you design and manage sites. It's not easy doing it. I would just hope the OP isn't spending a lot of money on something they don't have yet. I'm super excited about the process, but all businesses need to be budgeted right?

    I'm not trying to attack the OP, just again my suggestions.

    What I meant by the "not showing" was any signs of production 0.1.4 example. Just off that.

    No harm here, just from experience using those sites that have a template to build, cost a lot. Not sure if you've seen how they work.
  • 08-13-2012, 07:18 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    alrite im going to type my thoughts as I browse

    so im at the homepage and first thing I notice is the very blue background, that take up more area than the content does, i realize it is perfect size for 1024x768 resolution, which is no doubt the most common res size. but on higher resolution screens there is more blue background than content. As a quick fix I would suggest using a lighter color or if your able to, a light gradient background. would at least not make the background look so bold compared to the content on bigger screens. Again only a suggestion, not sure how much you can do, i see you used some sort of site builder, but ill post the code since I happened to have it right in front of me.

    instead of
    Code:

    <style type="text/css">
        body {
            background-color:#0d064a;
            color: white;
        }

    try
    Code:

    <style type="text/css">
    body {
      background-color:#hex for light color; /*for a browser that is not IE webkit based or firefox*/
      background: -webkit-gradient(linear, left top, left bottom, from(#color1), to(#color2));/*chrome n safari*/
      background: -moz-linear-gradient(top,  #color1,  #color2);/*firefox*/
      filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.gradient(startColorstr='#color1', endColorstr='#color2');/*ie*/
    }

    ideally though, you want your content to be fluid and grow with the bigger screen, but again i have no idea how much you can do with those web builders.

    i saw someone already mentioned the apparent double logo, but it does stick out.

    so im looking at pictures on the home page and my mouse turns into the selectable mouse, so i click on the pictures but they don't do anything, so either make them do something, or dont make my mouse change lol. also I see the file names of the pictures when i hover over them. I really dont need to know it's picture random letters and numbers :)

    Lay out looks nice, page animations are smooth. I think the picture layout is great. only other thing I really notice is the email isn't clickable, you can easily do this by changing your email to this...
    Code:

    <a target="_blank" href="mailto:pythons@wtfmorphsofmanchester.com">pythons@wtfmorphsofmanchester.com</a>
    bout all i got
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