What shall I get?

Hello, everyone!

Just wondering if anyone can answer a few questions I have. I've been wanting to get into the breeding and raising of BP's for some time now but always had something else going on that kept me from doing it. My son who is 7 y/o has shown an interest in getting a pet and we've both come to the conclusion that a snake would be just fine for him. It's more of a mutual thing because I will be breeding at some point while he just has a pet.

The problem I'm having is deciding where to start. I've been seeing many different price ranges for all the morphs and don't know what I should trust and what I shouldn't. I've got a good idea of what I'd like to get, but what prices are too much and what should I avoid? I hope these aren't too vague of questions to ask (sorry, I'm a noob) but I really don't want to get off on the wrong foot and spend a bunch of money on a snake that is either not worth the money and/or from a "not-so-reputable" breeder. Thanks for any help you can give me. I sincerely appreciate it.

What morphs are you considering? Also what sex?

As far as finding reputable breeders goes, there's a good start on the left hand of your screen on this website :) Also, the BOI (Board of Inquiry) on here and on Faunaclassifieds.com is a good place to see what other people have to say about dealing with breeders. As far as pricing goes, Faunaclassifieds and kingsnake.com are the most used classifieds for BPs, (there's also a section here for it aswell) They are a good place to get a general price range for morphs.

If you are looking at breeding in the future, don't be afraid to pay top of the range price. You get what you pay for most of the time. Always choose quality over price, as it seems that "okay" mommies and daddies produce "okay" babies. "okay" babies are much much harder to sell, especially when you are first getting into the scene. The reptile community is based HEAVILY on reputation and word of mouth.

Expo's are a great way to meet people in the community, and see the snakes up close and personal. You can also find some decent prices there.

Read, read, read, and read some more! There is a HUGE collection of knowledge at your fingertips. This site has caresheets, husbandry, feeding, shedding, medical, breeding, incubation, morphs, and everything else under the BP sun. There are very useful stickies at the top of each of the forum sections. When you've read a boat ton of info, and have more questions, ask! This has been the friendliest and most "newbie friendly" website I have ever seen. I've learned so much from this site and the community in the past 3 months.

Another great website for checking out morphs and combos is www.worldofballpythons.com it has a great morph list and also a very fun, highly addicting genetics calculater :D

I'm a newbie too, but I hope I've helped a little at least :) Welcome to BP.net and the reptile world!

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What morphs are you considering? Also what sex?

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I'm particularly interested in the Spiders, Pastels, Certain Albino's, Bumble Bee's, Pied's, anything that is black/white, you get the picture. And as far as sex, I guess I don't know what I would want/need in each morph to get the babies I would want yet. I have been experimenting with different morphs on worldofballpythons.com so I can get an idea of what i'll get, but still need to read up on what would be better in each morph. I don't understand all the nomenclature yet that is associated with the BP world so I'm pacing myself. But that's what I'll probably start with at least. What are your thoughts?

If your buying a young one, I would say to start off with a female of the morph of your choice. They take longer to grow for breeding purposes.
spooky

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Originally Posted by RoseyReps

As far as finding reputable breeders goes, there's a good start on the left hand of your screen on this website :) Also, the BOI (Board of Inquiry) on here and on Faunaclassifieds.com is a good place to see what other people have to say about dealing with breeders. As far as pricing goes, Faunaclassifieds and kingsnake.com are the most used classifieds for BPs, (there's also a section here for it aswell) They are a good place to get a general price range for morphs.

If you are looking at breeding in the future, don't be afraid to pay top of the range price. You get what you pay for most of the time. Always choose quality over price, as it seems that "okay" mommies and daddies produce "okay" babies. "okay" babies are much much harder to sell, especially when you are first getting into the scene. The reptile community is based HEAVILY on reputation and word of mouth.

Expo's are a great way to meet people in the community, and see the snakes up close and personal. You can also find some decent prices there.

Read, read, read, and read some more! There is a HUGE collection of knowledge at your fingertips. This site has caresheets, husbandry, feeding, shedding, medical, breeding, incubation, morphs, and everything else under the BP sun. There are very useful stickies at the top of each of the forum sections. When you've read a boat ton of info, and have more questions, ask! This has been the friendliest and most "newbie friendly" website I have ever seen. I've learned so much from this site and the community in the past 3 months.

Another great website for checking out morphs and combos is www.worldofballpythons.com it has a great morph list and also a very fun, highly addicting genetics calculater :D

I'm a newbie too, but I hope I've helped a little at least :) Welcome to BP.net and the reptile world!

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Thank you, Tiffany for all the wonderful information! I'm glad I found this place as the atmosphere that I'm seeing is just what you've described, friendly and informative. I never thought I would have this much fun looking and reading about snakes, but it is addicting. And yes, I did check out the worldofballpythons.com site you mentioned and also found that addicting as well. Great information here and too much of it, I might add for someone like me (Noob)! Regardless, I'm sure I've stumbled upon the best place for info and I greatly appreciate the help. Thanks again! I will be checking out the places you've mentioned and hope to glean more understanding of these awesome creatures! :gj:

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Originally Posted by mr.spooky

If your buying a young one, I would say to start off with a female of the morph of your choice. They take longer to grow for breeding purposes.
spooky

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Is it a common practice to not use normals to breed with because you will get some from breeding morphs anyway, or could you use a normal male and breed it with say a spider female and get good morphs out of them? Obviously I'm not too sure on how this all works so forgive me for the noob questioning.

You really can breed what you want.
Most of us started off with males and then the wait time was killer on the females.
A male can be ready to go in under a year BUT a female can take two to three years before they are ready to give it a go:O;)
I took a little short-cut and got some normal big girls to start with after I realized I did want to breed.:gj:

Its all about what you want to start with and what you want to make.

What area are you located in?
You might have some small breeders around you that can be close by for purchases or help.

If I were you, I would look at how much money you have to spend on just the snakes portion of getting set up. I would put 70% of that money towards as many adult normal females you can get and the remaining 30% towards 1 adult morph male. This was the best advice that I have ever received because you will start producing now!!! Keep the hatchlings you want to grow up to breeders still using the normals for the next 2 -3 seasons while your hatchlings gain weight. Then as you earn more money from selling the other hatchlings you can invest in quality morphs eventually replacing your normal females with morph females either from your own produced hatchlings (which have now grown), or by buying your desired morphs from your profits of selling the adult normal females and your unwanted hatchlings. Also know that you need to have good equipment, and that is also a significant part of the budget. Make sense?

From what I've seen, people tend to start with a female morph they like (Say...a little pastel girl) then in a year - year and a half they get a morph male (usually of higher or equal quality) like a spider, or bumblebee / lesserbee / whateverbee. Then in another year they *should* be ready to breed.

Now...as for normals, it's the normal females that you see people breed with usually. Say you have a bumblebee boy, and a pastel girl. While your girl only has the potential of getting eggs from one guy (not going to even get into double sired wierdness here...) your guy can get it on with multiple girls. A way to increase production / profit is getting a couple solid big normal girls to hatch out some morphs from your special guy. (bee x normal = 25% normal, 25% spider, 25% pastel, 25% bee according to wobp wizard) You don't see male normals being bred to morph females usually, because it seems like a waste of potential. Advice I have read is always breed a genetically superior male, with genetically equal or lower females. Never the other way around. More bang for your buck (generally, with MOST morphs, females run more expensive. That paired with the 1 male can mate multiple females makes this piece of advice make sense to me)

That being said, I think starting slow would be of more benefit. (first year you are able to breed only doing one clutch) But that is just my opinion. Could you jump in head first and grab a breeder size female and yearling male and shoot for next year production? Sure. Is that a good idea for someone just starting out? Probably not. Getting those 3 years of husbandry under your belt, plus the initial knowledge of caring for a hatchling / raising to adult is knowledge you'll want before your up to you ears in hatchlings.

This is the route I'm taking for my eventual breeding. Everyone has their own ideas and opinions but I think going slow is going to benefit me and my snakes the most down the road. Once I have my first successful clutch, then I'll probably pick up a few adult normal girls for the next season as well as another morph project.

You mention pieds and albino's, just so you know, those are reccessive genes, which means both mom and dad need to carry the gene to make visual pieds / albino babies (albino x albino, albino x het albino, or het albino x het albino) With co-dom morphs (spiders, pastels) you only need one parent to have the genes to see visual babies.

Whats your price range for just the snakes? Keep in mind youll need a rack, t-stat, hides, waterbowls, temp gun etc...

I used a few normals last year, and the one thing that you need to take into consideration is, there are NO rules set in stone when it comes to these %'s. If you breed a single gene morph X a normal and get 8 eggs from the clutch, theres a chance that you will only get one (1) morph and end up with 7 normals (ask me how I know:mad:). Not that normals are a bad thing, but sence you have to feed them after they hatch, wouldent you rather use the space and money to feed something that can return the investment? Im trying to get away from the normals next year unless I breed a multiple gene animal to them.
spooky

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Originally Posted by LocoKen

My son who is 7 y/o has shown an interest in getting a pet and we've both come to the conclusion that a snake would be just fine for him. It's more of a mutual thing because I will be breeding at some point while he just has a pet.

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Everyone has valid points here on the breeding aspect but I am still stuck on the child;)
This is why I always ask about location.
It is nice to have some face to face time too with someone other than a pet store employee

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

You really can breed what you want.
Most of us started off with males and then the wait time was killer on the females.
A male can be ready to go in under a year BUT a female can take two to three years before they are ready to give it a go:O;)
I took a little short-cut and got some normal big girls to start with after I realized I did want to breed.:gj:

Its all about what you want to start with and what you want to make.

What area are you located in?
You might have some small breeders around you that can be close by for purchases or help.

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Sorry, I hadn't edited my profile yet to reflect my area or other info. We live in Bremerton, Wa where the climate isn't as cold in the winter as say the midwest and it doesn't normally get too hot in the summer. Our average temp in the summer is around 70-80 and 30-45 in the winter. And as far as checking out some local breeders, I would be stoked to be able to do such a thing. Granted, the only BP's I have found so far at the pet stores are all normals, but they are beautiful, nonetheless. I just didn't know if buying one of them was a good financial decision when it comes to breeding, but am not too worried about that when it comes to my son. He seems pretty calm around them at the moment, and he loves animals. I was pretty leery about getting him a snake at first, but felt that after reading a lot online about the BP's that I would be willing to give it a try, knowing that if anything came up, I would be taking care of it if he didn't like the fact that he may get bitten once in awhile. I'd rather he got bitten by a BP than a dog any day.

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

Everyone has valid points here on the breeding aspect but I am still stuck on the child;)
This is why I always ask about location.
It is nice to have some face to face time too with someone other than a pet store employee

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My thoughts exactly!

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Originally Posted by mr.spooky

I used a few normals last year, and the one thing that you need to take into consideration is, there are NO rules set in stone when it comes to these %'s. If you breed a single gene morph X a normal and get 8 eggs from the clutch, theres a chance that you will only get one (1) morph and end up with 7 normals (ask me how I know:mad:). Not that normals are a bad thing, but sence you have to feed them after they hatch, wouldent you rather use the space and money to feed something that can return the investment? Im trying to get away from the normals next year unless I breed a multiple gene animal to them.
spooky

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Now by normals, we are talking about your general run of the mill BP that you can find at any pet store, correct? That's the impression that I'm getting from my reading but just wanted to clarify.

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Now by normals, we are talking about your general run of the mill BP that you can find at any pet store, correct? That's the impression that I'm getting from my reading but just wanted to clarify.

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Those would be "normals";)
and is you can find a local breeder you should be able to get hatchlings for around $20 - $30 instead of $80+ the pet stores want.

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Those would be "normals";)
and is you can find a local breeder you should be able to get hatchlings for around $20 - $30 instead of $80+ the pet stores want.

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Thanks, Pit! Much appreciated!

My advice to anyone starting out, get girls, and get codoms/doms unless you are familiar with recessives and want to start working with them right away. I prefer codoms since you can make supers fairly fast. I say get females, because you can worry about males in 2-3 years while your girls are growing up.

Hey! Your not to far from me, relatively speaking. We actually have a decent number of small breeders in our area. Simpleman is semi close as is Wapadi, both of which have some amazing animals. And a few others was well. If there is anything I can do to help you out as well don't be afraid to ask.

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Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters

My advice to anyone starting out, get girls, and get codoms/doms unless you are familiar with recessives and want to start working with them right away. I prefer codoms since you can make supers fairly fast. I say get females, because you can worry about males in 2-3 years while your girls are growing up.

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I'm all about getting females right now, babies that is, as my price range probably won't support the adults or very expensive ones. I agree that I should get some time under my belt learning how to take care of these new "pets" but I also would like to get into breeding within the next 6-12 months. That's about the time I could afford to pick up one or two really nice females to use for breeding. I don't want to get into a huge breeding operation like BHB, but I would like to have about 10 females or more some day as breeders. I'm also not looking to make bank on them, but don't want to lose money either. It'll be just an expensive hobby that hopefully can pay for itself and have some creative cash on the side.

I'm also not too understanding yet of all the jargon when it comes to recessives, codoms/doms (I have to chuckle, I first read this as condoms. Oops.) I kinda have an idea of what's being said, but I haven't been a breeder of anything except for rabbits when I was a kid and didn't experiment across strains or species. I've got a lot to learn in that department. My son and I bought a book to get started but it's just a basic information book from the pet store. I've learned more by spending loads of time on this forum than I did in that book.

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Hey! Your not to far from me, relatively speaking. We actually have a decent number of small breeders in our area. Simpleman is semi close as is Wapadi, both of which have some amazing animals. And a few others was well. If there is anything I can do to help you out as well don't be afraid to ask.

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Heya, Sama!

Hello to a fellow Washingtonian! Are these other members on the Seattle side of the Puget Sound, or do you know of any over here on my side of the water? I would love to visit them if they are willing to let me come by. I've also checked into the Herp club that is out of Seattle and my just join if it's going to be beneficial to us without having to do too much traveling. Do you breed as well? If so, what morphs do you like the most? I have to admit, I'm a bit snake-bitten and got the bug to get started in this new hobby. And from the looks of it, I've found a pretty good place to hang out in the process!

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I just wanted to thank everyone who has posted here that I am very grateful to your acceptance of me here in just the short day it has been. I've never felt so welcome on a forum until now, and I hope I can be of some help to others as ya'll have been to me someday. Thanks! I really mean that. Have a great day!

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Hey! Your not to far from me, relatively speaking. We actually have a decent number of small breeders in our area. Simpleman is semi close as is Wapadi, both of which have some amazing animals. And a few others was well. If there is anything I can do to help you out as well don't be afraid to ask.

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:rofl::rofl::rofl: You just found some good people in your area and you didnt have to look too long or far :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Originally Posted by LocoKen

I'm also not too understanding yet of all the jargon when it comes to recessives, codoms/doms (I have to chuckle, I first read this as condoms. Oops.) I kinda have an idea of what's being said, but I haven't been a breeder of anything except for rabbits when I was a kid and didn't experiment across strains or species. I've got a lot to learn in that department. My son and I bought a book to get started but it's just a basic information book from the pet store. I've learned more by spending loads of time on this forum than I did in that book.

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Dom=visual paint job with no super form..................Example here

Codom= visual paint job WITH a super form.............Visual here Super here

Recessive is a whole ball of worms LOL=two copies of the SAME gene to get a visual.............My favorite here
This is where the "het" comes into play because one copy makes a normal looking snake that carries the gene.

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BTW........Simpleman is a good guy and you can find him here in this site:gj:

Lol, I love anything pied personally, but I will also be trying for bees het hypo this coming season. This is my first year breeding and I have 2 clutches, the first is actually hatching tonight!
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=178339
Simple is south of you, and I would love to get a ball from him someday soon, and he makes snake and rat racks! I can't brag on him enough : ). I'm not 100% sure where Wapadi is but I saw some of her snakes at the last expo, the pastel was stunning! And good sized too, man I wanted to take that snake home! SnakesRkewl is in Oregon and has beautiful Yellowbellies and clowns. I got Loki from him and everything was perfect. There are a few others I am missing as well, sorry guys!
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=121411

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Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters

My advice to anyone starting out, get girls, and get codoms/doms unless you are familiar with recessives and want to start working with them right away. I prefer codoms since you can make supers fairly fast. I say get females, because you can worry about males in 2-3 years while your girls are growing up.

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May I ask a stupid question? What makes a super a super?

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:rofl::rofl::rofl: You just found some good people in your area and you didnt have to look too long or far :rofl::rofl::rofl:



Dom=visual paint job with no super form..................Example here

Codom= visual paint job WITH a super form.............Visual here Super here

Recessive is a whole ball of worms LOL=two copies of the SAME gene to get a visual.............My favorite here
This is where the "het" comes into play because one copy makes a normal looking snake that carries the gene.

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BTW........Simpleman is a good guy and you can find him here in this site:gj:

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Some good little tidbits of info you gave there, Pit! I like the examples, too!

And I'll have to look up Simpleman and see if he's willing to meet sometime. :D

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Lol, I love anything pied personally, but I will also be trying for bees het hypo this coming season. This is my first year breeding and I have 2 clutches, the first is actually hatching tonight!
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=178339
Simple is south of you, and I would love to get a ball from him someday soon, and he makes snake and rat racks! I can't brag on him enough : ). I'm not 100% sure where Wapadi is but I saw some of her snakes at the last expo, the pastel was stunning! And good sized too, man I wanted to take that snake home! SnakesRkewl is in Oregon and has beautiful Yellowbellies and clowns. I got Loki from him and everything was perfect. There are a few others I am missing as well, sorry guys!
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=121411

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Don't know what het means, but I'll bet it is something good! The bees are also intriguing to me as well.

And thanks for info on other breeders/fellow neighbors. Your help is not going unnoticed!

It sounds like you might also be interested in axanthics. You and I have similar tastes in morphs. As far as expos you have the emerald city reptile expo in Seattle. Sadly it was the beginning of June. But I would just google reptile expos in Washington and see if there's more coming up cause there should be with all the hatching going on! Good luck! Ball pythons are the most docile, sweet and amazing snake you can own! My children handle ours all the time never been bit or struck at.

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It sounds like you might also be interested in axanthics. You and I have similar tastes in morphs.

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And you would be correct, Aiden! Just checked them out and they are definitely a beautiful morph! It's on my list!

you guys in washington don't know how lucky you are, im up here on vancouver island where we have jokers like this http://www.usedvictoria.com/classifi...-SALE_17315485 :rofl:

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/...oyam/brian.png :rofl:

good luck with your breeding :)

I liked the way Ralph Davis explained genetics.
http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/matrix/
Hopefully it can help you as well!

If your going to go the way of a spider, pastel, stuff like that I would start off with a minimum two gene male. It will put you farther ahead and save you some headache in the Long run.

Simpleman is in Tacoma. Wapadi is in Silverdale so thats your best bet. Anatopism is in Oly. I am in shelton but this will be my first year breeding so I am not a breeder yet i guess... I am pretty sure we will all be happy to help you out, ofcourse if you dont mind the drive. :) You can also PM anyone of them and ask some questions.

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I'm all about getting females right now, babies that is, as my price range probably won't support the adults or very expensive ones. I agree that I should get some time under my belt learning how to take care of these new "pets" but I also would like to get into breeding within the next 6-12 months. That's about the time I could afford to pick up one or two really nice females to use for breeding. I don't want to get into a huge breeding operation like BHB, but I would like to have about 10 females or more some day as breeders. I'm also not looking to make bank on them, but don't want to lose money either. It'll be just an expensive hobby that hopefully can pay for itself and have some creative cash on the side.

I'm also not too understanding yet of all the jargon when it comes to recessives, codoms/doms (I have to chuckle, I first read this as condoms. Oops.) I kinda have an idea of what's being said, but I haven't been a breeder of anything except for rabbits when I was a kid and didn't experiment across strains or species. I've got a lot to learn in that department. My son and I bought a book to get started but it's just a basic information book from the pet store. I've learned more by spending loads of time on this forum than I did in that book.

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You'll probably want to get some adult normal females if you want to start breeding that soon. I definitely regret not buying all girls when I first started since I didn't start breeding for a couple years. I bought too many boys when I started! :P

Trust me, I have to double check myself every time I write codoms, lol. Codominate morphs (codoms) are a visual morph that have a super form. If you breed two codoms together they will make a super form, sometimes it's just a better looking version of that morph, or it's completely different, like the Blue Eyed Luecy -a white snake with blue eyes. Some codoms are: pastels, mojaves, butters, lessers, cinnamons, black pastels

Dominate morphs are visual morphs with no super form. Some doms are: pintripes, spiders,

Recessives are difficult. There are visual recessives (they look like the morph) and het recessives (they look normal, but carry the gene to make the recessive morph). You can have 100% hets, 66% hets and 50% hets (you really don't bother going less than 50%). Those percentages are the chance that the snake carries the gene. Both parents have to carry the recessive gene in order to make a visual recessive morph. You cannot breed a visual recessive morph to a normal and get anything other than normal looking babies that are het for that recessive gene. Some recessive morphs are: pieds, ghosts, albinos,

We have a great genetics section on this site you can read through and learn a little more. These are just the basics.

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you guys in washington don't know how lucky you are, im up here on vancouver island where we have jokers like this http://www.usedvictoria.com/classifi...-SALE_17315485 :rofl:

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/...oyam/brian.png :rofl:

good luck with your breeding :)

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That's hilarious! I wonder if they get out much. Like, to a pet store.

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I liked the way Ralph Davis explained genetics.
http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/matrix/
Hopefully it can help you as well!

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This is making more sense for each reading I do, but it's gonna take awhile!

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If your going to go the way of a spider, pastel, stuff like that I would start off with a minimum two gene male. It will put you farther ahead and save you some headache in the Long run.

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Doing my research now to find out what that really means. I'm guessing that it's two dominant genes that will reciprocate themselves in the babies, or have a better chance of getting the babies you want out of the parents, right?

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Originally Posted by Andybill

Simpleman is in Tacoma. Wapadi is in Silverdale so thats your best bet. Anatopism is in Oly. I am in shelton but this will be my first year breeding so I am not a breeder yet i guess... I am pretty sure we will all be happy to help you out, ofcourse if you dont mind the drive. :) You can also PM anyone of them and ask some questions.

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Thanks for the info, Andy! It would be nice to get some local contacts here to share things with, even if it's just a photo every now and then. Wapadi seems to have a nice collection. Would be nice to visit them someday as they are right in my backyard. Again, thanks Andy!

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Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters

You'll probably want to get some adult normal females if you want to start breeding that soon. I definitely regret not buying all girls when I first started since I didn't start breeding for a couple years. I bought too many boys when I started! :P

Trust me, I have to double check myself every time I write codoms, lol. Codominate morphs (codoms) are a visual morph that have a super form. If you breed two codoms together they will make a super form, sometimes it's just a better looking version of that morph, or it's completely different, like the Blue Eyed Luecy -a white snake with blue eyes. Some codoms are: pastels, mojaves, butters, lessers, cinnamons, black pastels

Dominate morphs are visual morphs with no super form. Some doms are: pintripes, spiders,

Recessives are difficult. There are visual recessives (they look like the morph) and het recessives (they look normal, but carry the gene to make the recessive morph). You can have 100% hets, 66% hets and 50% hets (you really don't bother going less than 50%). Those percentages are the chance that the snake carries the gene. Both parents have to carry the recessive gene in order to make a visual recessive morph. You cannot breed a visual recessive morph to a normal and get anything other than normal looking babies that are het for that recessive gene. Some recessive morphs are: pieds, ghosts, albinos,

We have a great genetics section on this site you can read through and learn a little more. These are just the basics.

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Thanks for the help, SS! I've been a little busy the last few days and haven't had much time to do any reading online here but I have gotten a little further ahead with everyone's awesome assistance. Glad to have found such a great site! Trust me, though. I will still be asking noob questions here. Sometimes I find it better to just ask because going through the mountains of information can get a little confusing sometimes. And I like to learn as much as I can about everything. Thanks again!

Here's my next stupid question. What does the information in some people's signatures pertain to in terms of the numbering before an animals description?
Such as this:

1.0 Pastel
0.1 Spider
2.2 Cats :)
1.0 Wife

Yeah, I know. This is about the stupidest question you've heard to date. But hey, I'm good for asking stooooopid ?'s.

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Originally Posted by LocoKen

Here's my next stupid question. What does the information in some people's signatures pertain to in terms of the numbering before an animals description?
Such as this:

1.0 Pastel 1 male pastel . 0 females
0.1 Spider 0 males . 1 female spider
2.2 Cats 2 male cats . 2 female cats
1.0 Wife Not sure about this one man wife I guess

Yeah, I know. This is about the stupidest question you've heard to date. But hey, I'm good for asking stooooopid ?'s.

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Let me know if this helps if u see 0.0.1 the one is unsexed

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Originally Posted by aidenangel

It sounds like you might also be interested in axanthics. You and I have similar tastes in morphs. As far as expos you have the emerald city reptile expo in Seattle. Sadly it was the beginning of June. But I would just google reptile expos in Washington and see if there's more coming up cause there should be with all the hatching going on! Good luck! Ball pythons are the most docile, sweet and amazing snake you can own! My children handle ours all the time never been bit or struck at.

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Lol they are pretty docile but I bet I have a couple of babies that would attack a pit bull.

1.1.1
Male.Female.Unsexed

If you have a 1.0 wife....ruh roh :O :D

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Originally Posted by LocoKen

That's hilarious! I wonder if they get out much. Like, to a pet store.

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:rofl::rofl:

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Originally Posted by RoseyReps

1.1.1
Male.Female.Unsexed

If you have a 1.0 wife....ruh roh :O :D

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Like I said, I'm a noob. I copied this from someone else's post not knowing. Ha ha!!!!! No, I'm not a switch hitter, and my wife is female, last I checked. Ha Ha!!!!
Anyway, now that we have that clarified, thank you guys/gals for the help. I warned you! It was a stupid question!

It wasn't a stupid question at all :) I had the same question back when I first started lurking on reptile forums. Was just funny with the 1.0 wife part hehehe

Lol don't worry, I think just about everyone asks that question ;)

Well, we're just about ready to purchase our first snake. More than likely it will have the Spider gene in it somewhere as the Spider is our favorite. I've contacted RDR about one of his and if it is in our price range, we will be ordering it a.s.a.p.! Hopefully we can get another very soon and start our own collection. Thanks for the help, everyone! Very much appreciated!

*Sigh*

Well, I guess we will be waiting on the one we really wanted for awhile. It is just way out of reach for me at this moment. I'm probably going to have to buy into the bumble bee for now until I can get some money built up for the ones I really want. This is an expensive little hobby, I'm gathering. I can see why so many people buy to breed because the prices can vary so much. Hmmmm.......