Enchi x Spider clutch hatching...incubation problem???

My Enchi x Spider clutch has, for the most part, hatched out. 7 eggs were laid and the first five hatched out no problem. 1 normal, 3 Enchi's and a Stingerbee. All are healthy and normal.

Enchi's

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3.../002Enchib.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3.../002Enchic.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/IMG_4575.jpg

Stingerbee...I think...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/IMG_4598.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/IMG_4603.jpg

The last two eggs were not showing signs of coming out of the egg like the first five babies...here's a few pics of the last two eggs...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...kes/Enchib.jpg



http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...nakes/Unk1.jpg

The funky orange baby is out now...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/IMG_4612.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/IMG_4615.jpg

The last egg still looks the same. Still has movement and the fluid still looks clean and clear, but it still shows no sign of leaving the egg, or even popping his nose out...

I think what may have affected these two guys was a temp problem that happened a few weeks prior to their pipping date. We had a bad storm move through several weeks ago (anyone on the East Coast knows the storm I'm referring to) and we lost power for about 20 hours. I thought I had maintained a fairly consistent temp, but apparently not. Once the temp in the incubator started dropping, I began trying to use some heat packs to bring it back up and maintain a reasonably constant temp. I thought I did fairly well, but I guess not. I'm thinking my Accurites weren't a big help as they both vary about 5 degrees. I usually rely on my Herpstat for the most accurate reading, but without power I had to rely on the Accurites.

I'm hoping these last two pull through. The orange guy/girl left a pretty sizable yolk sack behind so it may be touch and go until first feeding. The other still shows no signs of coming out. I guess at this point all I can do is wait. Also hoping my other clutch hasn't been affected. They are about two weeks away from hatch date and all eggs look great. Still big and plump but starting to dimple a tiny bit. Fingers crossed for them! :)

the orange baby looks great.:D

Aw man :(... I hope they all end up being okay... I read here that pattern and color are the last things to develop (I'm sure you already know that :P), so that could be the reason they look a little funky.

I've recently seen a lot of people with "sweet dinkers!" hatching out of eggs that had bad temp spikes, or were cut too early..

They all look pretty good! I think youre right about that being a stinger and that orange baby looks super cool! I hope all ends well for you!

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Aw man :(... I hope they all end up being okay... I read here that pattern and color are the last things to develop (I'm sure you already know that :P), so that could be the reason they look a little funky.

I've recently seen a lot of people with "sweet dinkers!" hatching out of eggs that had bad temp spikes, or were cut too early..

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Yeah...I'm pretty sure it was a temp fluctuation that caused the funkiness...the last one still doesn't seem to be coloring up...hopefully it pulls through...

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that orange baby looks super cool!

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He's like the Clown I've always wanted but could never afford! :D

That funky orange one totally reminds me of a Clown. Maybe it's just me?

Good luck with your two babies still in the eggs. Hopefully they just need a bit more time :gj:

that orange baby looks just like a clown thats crazy

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That funky orange one totally reminds me of a Clown. Maybe it's just me?

Good luck with your two babies still in the eggs. Hopefully they just need a bit more time :gj:

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Only one left from my first clutch still in the egg...the white and black one with the spot on his/her head. I have another clutch of 6 eggs from an Enchi x Butter pairing that I'm hoping hatch without issue...:please:

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that orange baby looks just like a clown thats crazy

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Crazy isn't it??? I've seen several pics over the years of babies what were affected by incubator problems or temp spikes and it seems to do the same thing...a lot of orange and smudgy weird pattern changes...

Wow, those are interesting.

Just to be sure; is it possible those both coulda been het clown parents???

Crazy looking babies, congrats!

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Just to be sure; is it possible those both coulda been het clown parents???

Crazy looking babies, congrats!

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I guess it's possible but not very likely. I'm pretty sure it was a temp problem during incubation. That baby seems to have a little neurological issue as well as scrambled up looks. Nothing crazy, but it has a little bit of a shake like some Spiders show. I've left it alone since hatching and it's going through shed now. I'll snap some pics once it sheds out...and find out if it's a he or a she too...although I suppose breeding is out...

Still have about a week before my other clutch hatches...hope all goes well with them...

Stingerbee shed today...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/IMG_4650.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/IMG_4658.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/IMG_4720.jpg

Last baby is still in the egg...and still shows no sign of wanting to come out. Today is day 65...all other babies (except for the oddball) have had their first shed, and this one still isn't out yet. Everything looks good though...fluid is still clear, good vein structure...still reacts to light and a gentle poke...I don't understand...I guess he/she is just a slow cooker... :confusd:

Took this pic a few minutes ago...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/IMG_4795.jpg

I also had a clutch affected by a power outage this year (time to shop for a UPS). I also have a baby with funky eye caps like your orange enchi, and I also have one still in the egg long past the time the others were all out, just as you're experiencing. He finally stuck his nose up today, so I have hope!

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Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion

I also had a clutch affected by a power outage this year (time to shop for a UPS). I also have a baby with funky eye caps like your orange enchi, and I also have one still in the egg long past the time the others were all out, just as you're experiencing. He finally stuck his nose up today, so I have hope!

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Well that's pretty weird! These clutches are cosmically connected somehow! :D

Hopefully the last baby will pop his nose out soon...

What day did yours finally stick his nose out?

Love that orange one!
I think the two straglers will make it!

The first of the clutch emerged on the 20th, 2 full days after pipping. That emergence was on day 60. So, this little guy finally has his nose out on day 62, pipping 4 days after the first one. (The other baby in the clutch who made it emerged yesterday morning).

I did get tail kinks on the other two babies--just the tail, thankfully! I also had 3 dead in the egg, though. I guess the power outage caught them at just the wrong time. The clutch that went into the incubator a few days after this one is already halfway hatched, as well, and the babies are all perfectly fine.

He did not come out today, so I investigated, found the yolk was fully absorbed and detached, so I took him out. He seems to be fine, although perhaps not quite as strong as I would typically like, but he has a big fat belly full of yolk. His eye caps are abnormal, and I don't think he can see, which is an issue also affecting one of the others. He doesn't have any kinks.

We'll have to see what happens when these guys shed, to see whether the eye issue is temporary or permanent. I suspect his inability to see was part of the reason why he did not leave the egg on his own.

Has anyone else seen this eye issue?

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...MojoMale-3.jpg

I'm curious to know what's likely to happen, both to my two, and to the OP's snake as well.

Wierd little orange guy shed out last night. Crazy looking thing!

Last one in the egg is still there, and still shows no sign of coming out. Still looks okay and is coloring up now...today is day 70...not sure how long to wait him/her out though???

Here's a few pics of the funky orange dude...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/IMG_4869.jpg


http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/IMG_4878.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...IMG_4874-1.jpg

Funky orange dude is RAD! :gj:

It's eye looks too small for it's head, or the socket is too big. You can see the white border all the way around the eyeball.

Weird.

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It's eye looks too small for it's head, or the socket is too big. You can see the white border all the way around the eyeball.

Weird.

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Yeah...the eye's are okay I think...it more appears that the ocular scales weren't fully developed or something...I'm hoping he'll grow into his eyes... :D

I'd just wait on that last baby. My last fire to hatch out was over a week behind the others. Just give it time. If the baby is still healthy and the veins good, just be patient. I pipped on day 58. The first didn't come out until day 64 so the last one was like day 71 or 72.

Gale

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Originally Posted by angllady2

I'd just wait on that last baby. My last fire to hatch out was over a week behind the others. Just give it time. If the baby is still healthy and the veins good, just be patient. I pipped on day 58. The first didn't come out until day 64 so the last one was like day 71 or 72.

Gale

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Thank you for the reply. Gives me hope that the last one will still make it. :)