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Morph ID?

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  • 06-20-2012, 06:53 PM
    LotusCorvus
    Morph ID?
    I know this is near-useless without pics, but I figured I'd try. Today I stopped in at my local pet shop for bedding, and this HUGE corn had just been brought in as a surrender/adoption. The guy said she was close to 6' in length (and looking at her, I'd just about believe it), assuming female. She was light and dark grey, with round yellow spots near the belly. Her patterning was fairly nondescript, mostly just regular stripes.

    I know I've seen similar coloring on corns before, it seems like a fairly common morph I think. My phone is crap and can't upload pics. I'm going back on Friday with my bestie, who'd been thinking about getting a corn. If she's still there we'll give her a better looking-over, and maybe bring her home. She seemed well-cared for, the previous owner brought her in with her setup, a large-ish (20-30 gal) glass aquarium with deep bedding and lots of hides and decorations.
  • 06-20-2012, 06:59 PM
    Daybreaker
  • 06-20-2012, 07:13 PM
    mues155
    Re: Morph ID?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LotusCorvus View Post
    I know this is near-useless without pics, but I figured I'd try. Today I stopped in at my local pet shop for bedding, and this HUGE corn had just been brought in as a surrender/adoption. The guy said she was close to 6' in length (and looking at her, I'd just about believe it), assuming female. She was light and dark grey, with round yellow spots near the belly. Her patterning was fairly nondescript, mostly just regular stripes.

    I know I've seen similar coloring on corns before, it seems like a fairly common morph I think. My phone is crap and can't upload pics. I'm going back on Friday with my bestie, who'd been thinking about getting a corn. If she's still there we'll give her a better looking-over, and maybe bring her home. She seemed well-cared for, the previous owner brought her in with her setup, a large-ish (20-30 gal) glass aquarium with deep bedding and lots of hides and decorations.

    6' corn sounds fun!
    Wish you could get those pics uploaded.
    Well let us know if your able to give her a good home! :gj:
  • 06-20-2012, 07:13 PM
    PyramidPythons
    Yeah, my guess would be possible Anery, though without pics it's too hard to guess for sure. ;)
  • 06-20-2012, 07:41 PM
    LotusCorvus
    Thanks for the link, Daybreaker! Anery is looking right. She was a bit paler than those examples, but that could have more to do with her size/age. I'm seriously fighting the urge to just go buy her now - my sister is away at college so I could use her room for QT until my bestie can come over and take the snake.
  • 06-20-2012, 11:22 PM
    LotusCorvus
    Pictures! (I broke, and went and bought her after posting lol)
    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5...603io1_250.jpg
    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5...603io2_250.jpg
    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5...603io3_500.jpg

    I'm definitely agreeing with anery, looking at the reference pics. Those yellow spots on her sides are still pretty awesome though. For the size reference I'm 5'2 and a fully grown adult, lol, girly is huuuuuge. She'll end up staying with my friend Devin, who'd been wanting a corn anyway, and I know he'll take good care of her (and be well-fed, considering I produce the rats he feeds his snakes! :D) I want to get her probed at some point, if she really is a female I'll be pretty stoked.
  • 06-20-2012, 11:29 PM
    RobNJ
    Re: Morph ID?
    Doesn't look like an anery.
  • 06-20-2012, 11:33 PM
    mues155
    She is VERY large! Thats great that you will give her a good home. :gj:
    I'm no help in the anery or not anery debate lol
  • 06-20-2012, 11:42 PM
    RobNJ
    Re: Morph ID?
    To be honest, based on its head, it doesn't even look like a corn to me...I could be wrong, but corns have very distinct head patterns.
  • 06-21-2012, 12:00 AM
    LotusCorvus
    Re: Morph ID?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RobNJ View Post
    To be honest, based on its head, it doesn't even look like a corn to me...I could be wrong, but corns have very distinct head patterns.

    Yeah, the way her head's a little faded seemed odd but so far everything else looks corn to me. My breeder friend Abby has a buddy who's majorly into corns, so I'm planning on passing these pics along to see if I can get any more definitive answer from him.
  • 06-21-2012, 12:01 AM
    Daybreaker
    Hmmm, grey rat snake came to mind after seeing the pics (I'm no rat expert). Can you post up close up photos?
  • 06-21-2012, 12:08 AM
    LotusCorvus
    I'll get some more shots tomorrow, when I try to weigh her. Her previous owner had apparently bought her at a pet store as a corn snake when she was young, so it's entirely possible she was mislabeled. I don't have a whole ton of colubrid experience, so I'm not really certain on anything in that aspect.
  • 06-22-2012, 11:23 PM
    LotusCorvus
    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...603io1_250.jpghttp://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...603io2_250.jpg
    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...603io3_250.jpghttp://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...603io4_250.jpg

    Sorry they're small, I can post bigger copies of any of these if you'd like (I was also posting them on my tumblr, forgot that linking from there auto-resizes). Its feeding day, and she was tracking me through the glass so I was able to get some better shots.
  • 06-22-2012, 11:51 PM
    ChrisS
    I don't see the arrow on its head (but I'm also looking at these pics on my phone so they are teeny tiny) but I'd guess grey rat not corn.
  • 06-23-2012, 01:10 PM
    rlditmars
    Re: Morph ID?
    I know some are saying not corn but grey rat. They are both just different color phases of the same snakes, so the heads are very similar. It looks like a ghost corn to me. I found several images out there, and while they looked a little more muted, they even had the yellow side markers.
  • 06-23-2012, 03:58 PM
    ChrisS
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rlditmars View Post
    I know some are saying not corn but grey rat. They are both just different color phases of the same snakes, so the heads are very similar. It looks like a ghost corn to me. I found several images out there, and while they looked a little more muted, they even had the yellow side markers.

    They are not different color phases of the same snake. The are completely different species. Grey rats are a sub species of black rats. Black rats are cousins to corns.
  • 06-23-2012, 04:13 PM
    geeko
    Re: Morph ID?
    I have a large anery corn female, and yours looks very similar to her. the head pattern is a little different, but I'd call it an anery corn. When mine has babies they come in varying shades of grey, some are lighter and some are darker.
  • 06-23-2012, 04:32 PM
    John1982
    Re: Morph ID?
    Have you considered it being a fox snake? I've encountered a great many corn and rat snakes in my neck of the woods and the general shape of that snake seems a bit off for either. It might be a hybrid too if you don't think it looks like Elaphe vulpina, I'm just not seeing pure grey or corn.
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