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  • 06-08-2012, 07:34 PM
    deto360
    Egg bound
    This is my first season as well as my cinni female 2 days ago she laid 4 good eggs after I remove her from the eggs I realized she still had another egg in her about the middle of her body. I gave her 48 hrs to see if she would push it out on her own (no luck) I tried to message it out her body it move a little bit but it's about 20 just to get it 1/4in should I take her to the vet? Has and one ever been threw this should I just give her some time?

    Here a pic the coil by her head is the egg

    http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...0/f42b1213.jpg
  • 06-08-2012, 09:40 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    Oh yeah, I can see it. Oh man, I don't know what to tell you. I know people say to give them 24 hours to do it on their own. You definitely want to get that egg out very soon. Does it move at all if you try to push it down? If you can get it out by moving it down her body and letting her try that would be the best, but you may end up having to puncture the egg while it is still inside of her. I'm not experienced with that so hopefully someone else will chime in.
  • 06-08-2012, 11:50 PM
    deto360
    Re: Egg bound
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters View Post
    Oh yeah, I can see it. Oh man, I don't know what to tell you. I know people say to give them 24 hours to do it on their own. You definitely want to get that egg out very soon. Does it move at all if you try to push it down? If you can get it out by moving it down her body and letting her try that would be the best, but you may end up having to puncture the egg while it is still inside of her. I'm not experienced with that so hopefully someone else will chime in.

    Yes it moves I need some oil or something do u know anything that's slippery that won't harm her I was thinking baby oil
  • 06-09-2012, 01:31 AM
    jben
    Hopefully some one with experience will give you some advice. I know you told me you were planning on taking her to the vet, any updates?
  • 06-09-2012, 02:16 AM
    deto360
    Re: Egg bound
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jben View Post
    Hopefully some one with experience will give you some advice. I know you told me you were planning on taking her to the vet, any updates?

    I got it to move alil more but it's hard when your hands are dry can really slide down her body I'm gonna try baby oil in the am hopefully that will help me or even better maybe that inch or so is the help she needed to push the egg out on her own
  • 06-09-2012, 02:25 AM
    jben
    I wish you the best bro:please:, that has got to be very stressful for the snake and you.
  • 06-09-2012, 07:49 AM
    deto360
    Re: Egg bound
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jben View Post
    I wish you the best bro:please:, that has got to be very stressful for the snake and you.

    Yea it's alil rough
  • 06-10-2012, 08:49 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    I have no clue what to tell you. Have you had any luck getting advise elsewhere? If the egg is still in there it definitely needs to come out soon. Oil isn't the best thing to put on a snake, what if you got her wet and used a wet hand towel to push it down?
  • 06-10-2012, 08:57 PM
    loonunit
    Yeah, I gather the standard wisdom is to try to palpate it out, and if that doesn't work, take her straight to a herp vet. Oil isn't great for snakes, but this really is a life and death situation, so just go with what works and try not to use too much.

    Hopefully one of the big breeders who's had experience with this will weigh in on the palpating technique.

    Good luck. Tell her we're all pulling for her.
  • 06-11-2012, 12:09 AM
    Domepiece
    Re: Egg bound
  • 06-11-2012, 08:59 AM
    Brandon Osborne
    Cod liver oil has been used for years. I've never had to try it myself but I know it is safe to use in snakes. Try feeding her and see if it helps. Most of the time it does. Good luck.
  • 06-11-2012, 11:14 AM
    marshall
    Re: Egg bound
    I would take her to the vet. I had the same think happen last year with a super mojave female. She laid 5 eggs and retained on like your snake way up high.

    By forcing the egg down you could cause more damage. If the (not sure this is the right term) ovaduct id twisted then you could cause more damage than good.

    The egg needs to be aspirated. Once the pressure is relieved then the duct could open up and let the egg move down. I watched my vet aspirate the egg in my snake. Not difficult to do but it was very intimidating to watch. Don't know if I could do it myself. He also gave a shot of pitocin(or something like that) to help move the egg down.

    I ended up having to take her back in for a second aspiration. Also more pitocin.

    She finally moved the egg down but unfortunately died before passing it.

    I would get her to the vet.

    I hope she passes this for you. Good Luck.


    Marshall
  • 06-11-2012, 09:43 PM
    deto360
    So I talked to brian Grundy and he told me try some moss in he tub so one more mornin I'm givin her and then vet trip she isn't showin sign of discomfort or anything. Thanks everyone for your responses and concern I hope all goes well
  • 06-12-2012, 09:07 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    Re: Egg bound
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by marshall View Post
    I would take her to the vet. I had the same think happen last year with a super mojave female. She laid 5 eggs and retained on like your snake way up high.

    By forcing the egg down you could cause more damage. If the (not sure this is the right term) ovaduct id twisted then you could cause more damage than good.

    The egg needs to be aspirated. Once the pressure is relieved then the duct could open up and let the egg move down. I watched my vet aspirate the egg in my snake. Not difficult to do but it was very intimidating to watch. Don't know if I could do it myself. He also gave a shot of pitocin(or something like that) to help move the egg down.

    I ended up having to take her back in for a second aspiration. Also more pitocin.

    She finally moved the egg down but unfortunately died before passing it.

    I would get her to the vet.

    I hope she passes this for you. Good Luck.


    Marshall

    That's a good point, I didn't even think about something being twisted. That really sucks that you lost her :(
  • 06-27-2012, 02:08 PM
    interloc
    What happened with this thread? My snake has the exact same issue. Please update!
  • 06-27-2012, 02:14 PM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: Egg bound
    I have had two balls that became egg-bound on the last eggs. I was able to gently push them out. I put them in a warm bath to try to loosen everything up. The eggs in both females were very low. Good luck.
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