Huge Problem Please help

Hey everyone i currently have my first clutch on day 59. I cut the eggs on day 50 when i went to go look at them this morning one of the eggs got rolled over and broke open the sac, he is seeming quite lethargic, is there nething i can do
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Some pictures would help. What is the temps in your incubator?

I am of no help, sorry but I want wish you luck there.

the incubator is reading 89 right now, she is just half in the sac and half out. cord is still connected but i dont want it to get dehydrated. i put a moist paper towel over the egg as well.

I suggest putting the egg and baby in a deli cup with wet papertowel.

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I suggest putting the egg and baby in a deli cup with wet papertowel.

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there in a tupperware right now with paper towel under the egg and on top to help with hydration

I place my eggs on a damp paper towel after they are cut, but I cut around day 57. You might want to put a small squirt bottle of water (distilled or saline would be even better) in your incubator until the temperature of the water is the same as your incubation temperature. Then you can gently hydrate the neonate. At day 59, they should be just about ready to come out.

On your next clutch, you might want to wait a little longer before you cut. Day 50 for a first time clutch is a little early.

Good luck. Hope everything is healthy out of the egg.

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Originally Posted by Don

I place my eggs on a damp paper towel after they are cut, but I cut around day 57. You might want to put a small squirt bottle of water (distilled or saline would be even better) in your incubator until the temperature of the water is the same as your incubation temperature. Then you can gently hydrate the neonate. At day 59, they should be just about ready to come out.

On your next clutch, you might want to wait a little longer before you cut. Day 50 for a first time clutch is a little early.

Good luck. Hope everything is healthy out of the egg.

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today actually is day 59 and i cut on day 51. I saw allot of things online with people cutting around then. i Kinda regret doing it that early i feel like it just caused more issues
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Don't beat yourself up. Cutting on day 51 for someone with a lot of experience is fine. I've seen some people cut even earlier, but they knew what they were doing. Gently hydrate the eggs like I suggested. At day 59, they are close to coming out.

live and learn. As long as you keep him hydrated he should be able to absorb the rest of his yolk sack and be fine. Next time i wouldnt cut that early. Most people i hear cut around day 54-56. Thats just the general observation ive made, certainly not a statistic though. Is there a particular big breeder you saw that cut that early? I remember in a Mike Wilbanks video he cut one of his clutches pretty early as an example.

i say brian gundy and some other ok breeders cut early that usually have pretty good success. Kinda sucks how often do u guys recomend me spraying them down to keep them hydrated with them not be terribly strong i would hate to give them to much

hey guys, i just lost another one of my 3 because of dehydration. my last one that i have is still in the gg still attached by his embilical coard, but is out flickering his toungue. it is now day 60 and still doesnt seem to be ready to come out. and the hydration in there is impossible to keep up. Nething i can do to help get this moving, i just dont want this poor baby to die like the other 2

Have you been misting them at all? Once I cut my eggs I mist them just about every day, if not twice a day to keep them wet and clean.

yeah im misting them atleast 2 times a day, i just dont know what the issue is, its day 60 today and still looks like there allot more time to wait with the yolk and such absorbing. plus its starting to stay dry in there. Anything i can do besides misting?

still very very lethargic, should they beable to hold up there heads at all?

Make sure they get more than just a spritz. Give them plenty of water, just make sure it is the proper temperature.

yeah the water is a good temp and i spray them down quite a bit, just very nervoes with this snake. i wish it the best. Should the snake be holding up its head?

are you sure the cord isnt twisted or knotted?
did you check the others that died if their cords were ok?

didnt even think of looking, how can i do that without hurting him???

Heres my little one that im worried about again remember day 60http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJrIt...ature=youtu.be

It doesn't look good. The best thing you can do is to just make him comfortable. Make sure there is plenty of water and keep him in the incubator. Don't mess with him any more. I don't think he is going to make it. Sorry. :(

The cut looks awful big. And if you did that at day 51, they may have been exposed too much to the elements. Hard lesson to learn. Wish there was something I could do or say to help.

ok thanks:(

this was also the one that somehow got flipped over in his tub

Yeah, sorry. A buddy of mine lost two clutches of lessers by cutting too big too early.
Lesson learned.
I know sorry doesnt mean much but sorry.

no its fine, i guess this comes with being a beginner in this field of work.

I'm so sorry. That's never fun. I learned about cutting the hard way too.
There's a main reasons that babies don't make it with cutting and that's bacteria forming in the egg. Cutting early always comes with the risk of the longer they're in there the more bacteria forms. So flushing is a big deal thing if you are cutting.
My rule of thumb now is wait for one at least to pip and then cut. Small cut, everything sterile.
Again im sorry.


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For the future, I cut a "V" in the egg so it creats a flap that it can close. For example, here is a clutch from last year that I cut around day 57:

http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/DSC00778.jpg

The flap is open in these pics because of the little noses poking out, but you can see how the flap stays closed if they aren't peeking. This method has worked for me.

Don't give up. Learn what works for you.

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For the future, I cut a "V" in the egg so it creats a flap that it can close. For example, here is a clutch from last year that I cut around day 57:

http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/DSC00778.jpg

The flap is open in these pics because of the little noses poking out, but you can see how the flap stays closed if they aren't peeking. This method has worked for me.

Don't give up. Learn what works for you.

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thanks allot man

Sorry to hear about the babies. It doesn't look promising but I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the last little guy

That video about broke my heart. Poor lil guy. I really hope he makes it

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That's so sad, I wish you well, but he doesn't look good. :(

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Condolences man, that's gotta be rough. Sometimes they just don't make it.

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I cut mine at day 53 this year, and out of 6 eggs I got 5 healthy babies (The one that didn't make it died much earlier before cutting, because it was not fully developed and had lots of kinks ;/). I cut "V" flaps as some1 earlier showed. They all crawled out before day 60.
Sorry for your loss :(.

Reading this broke my heart!

I know absolutely nothing from personal experience because i have not bred bp's yet.

But, what about giving that snake some egg yolk manually? Does any1 think that will give it some strength?

As I said, just an idea... I am far from qualified to give advice on breeding.

I've never seen someone cut an egg open like that. A V shape is all that is needed.

Poor snake.

i checked on him as of right now and he is still kicking so i misted him down quite a bit and he moved around a little bit ( still terribly lethargic) But as of right now still holding on.

And ive seen a handful of videos when people cut them open more than a v-shape, not saying thats its right because i definitly wont be doing that nemore.

Sorry for the loss! I'll cut mine at day 56 when 1 baby pip already. Hoping that guy to survive.

poor little guy maybe its time to cut the cord and put him in a tub and see if he gets better. feed him some yolk from a chicken egg like che said, i seen a few breeders do that.

I don't know about chicken yolk but I have seen a couple breeders start to feed much earlier because of wrapped cord or etc. they did a pinky slurry though.


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Don't give up on him, I've had some babies that were VERY lethargic when hatching, but perked up once they finished absorbing the yolk--and the day afterward, they behaved normally.

I've also had babies hatch and crawl free before absorbing most of the yolk, and they can be somewhat lethargic, but I've never lost one due to this--they will usually feed immediately after shedding, and once they're feeding, they're fine.

Fill that egg up with water. I've cut too early once or twice--usually anticipating hatching on day 55 when the animals decided to wait until after day 60 to emerge. I actually pour water into the open eggs, and they all do fine. It's important not to allow the membranes or yolk sac to dry out.

died today while i was at work. :(

My sincere sympathies. :tears:

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died today while i was at work. :(

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I'm so sorry. It is never fun losing a single baby, but to lose an entire clutch is heartbreaking. My prayers are with you. Don't give up. Next season you can try again and with the knowledge you gained in this season, you will do better.

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I'm so sorry. It is never fun losing a single baby, but to lose an entire clutch is heartbreaking. My prayers are with you. Don't give up. Next season you can try again and with the knowledge you gained in this season, you will do better.

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i got one more clutch in the incubator

Keep me informed of that clutch. If you want, go to PMs.

I'm so sorry. I hope your other clutch makes it.

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I am sorry for your loss.

Sometimes we have to learn these lessons the hard way. I lost an 11 egg clutch to improper incubation. That hurt because it was my very first.. The babies were all dried out and looks almost fossilized.

My second clutch, you better believe I got right, and I was rewarded with 5 healthy babies.

Gale

That's a heart breaker, man and I'm really sorry to have read all that. :( I sincerely wish you all the best with this next clutch. You're in the right place to get some world-class advice on how to get things right and hopefully have healthy babies pip from here on out. Keep your head up and good luck to you and to them! :gj: