Another egg question.

Ok so I went to open my incubator to just check in on my eggs and it smelled like DEATH in there. So I checked on my one box and it seems like 4 out of the 6 of the eggs have changed a bit.
The one pictured on the bottom right has a bit of white fuzzy mounds on it, and the 4 eggs seem to have changed into a sort of translucent like shell. They almost look wet, but they are not.
I quickly candled them again and it seems like all the eggs that look wet dont have much going on in there, I dont see any veins anymore. :tears:
The ones that dont look "wet" still have great clusters of veins.
My flashlight did kinda suck, I can check tomorrow with a better one.

The only one not stuck onto to the other eggs is the one on the bottom right. The rest are stuck together. So I assume I would just leave them in there? The live eggs should be uneffected right?
Any input on this matter would be great, cuz it sure does stink in there.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7239/7...68ab404d76.jpg
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I think if some of the eggs are going bad it would be best to seperate them all, but I don't have any breeding experience to back this up so please correct me if I am wrong about this.

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Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant

I think if some of the eggs are going bad it would be best to seperate them all, but I don't have any breeding experience to back this up so please correct me if I am wrong about this.

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I do believe if the eggs are stuck together then your not supposed to try to remove them, its too risky for the good eggs.
But we'll see what someone with experience says.
They are just really stinky lol

This is what I'm going off, (the part I am referring too starts around the 11 minute mark)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2D-q...e_gdata_player

(link for smartphone/if the embedded video didn't work)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2D-q...e_gdata_player

Ok, so I got a much better flashlight and I recandled the eggs. All the eggs candle like the stinky ones except one.

Stinky eggs number 1
You can see a circle of red (embryo maybe?) but no veins, the rest of the egg is clear.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7104/7...7da1029a27.jpg
Untitled by zombiecupcake155, on Flickr

stinky egg number 2
Same thing, the red spot is smaller in this one.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8019/7...0ba55fb7a6.jpg
Untitled by zombiecupcake155, on Flickr

the one egg that actually has veins
Now THAT looks better, I'm assuming then thats the only good egg in this entire clutch?...:(
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7076/7...a8bdd06d33.jpg
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So I suppose I have to carefully remove this egg from the rest of the stinkers? Any pointers on this, or just carefully? lol
I'll wait to get more input before I continue.

I think the typical answer is to leave them and that it probably won't hurt the good egg.
If you wait until you are 100% the eggs that are stuck are bad you can cut the shell of the bad eggs where they are stuck to the good egg without worry of tearing the good egg, then clean the shell to keep mold and bacteria away

If you decide to pull them apart be very careful

~ Karl

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Originally Posted by KLMuller

I think the typical answer is to leave them and that it probably won't hurt the good egg.
If you wait until you are 100% the eggs that are stuck are bad you can cut the shell of the bad eggs where they are stuck to the good egg without worry of tearing the good egg, then clean the shell to keep mold and bacteria away

If you decide to pull them apart be very careful

~ Karl

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I just think I might have to seperate that one good one.
Those other ones are just so foul I know that air cant be good for the good egg.

Are the bad ones kind of jello like at the bottom, like a semi hard mass?

~ Karl

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Originally Posted by KLMuller

Are the bad ones kind of jello like at the bottom, like a semi hard mass?

~ Karl

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no, they feel and look just like a good egg but maybe slightly deflated/sunken when touched. But that smell...is BAD. After opening my incubator this many times my kitchen is starting to smell.

Is your lid dripping on them at all?

If you peal them apart you will run the risk of damaging the good egg, if you cut the bad eggs off you run the risk that they are still good.

If you are sure they are bad, I think cutting the bad ones off is the safest way, just clean the good egg with a slightly damp paper towel after and leave the small part of the bad shell attached to the good egg


~ Karl

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Originally Posted by KLMuller

Is your lid dripping on them at all?

If you peal them apart you will run the risk of damaging the good egg, if you cut the bad eggs off you run the risk that they are still good.

If you are sure they are bad, I think cutting the bad ones off is the safest way, just clean the good egg with a slightly damp paper towel after and leave the small part of the bad shell attached to the good egg


~ Karl

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No, theres no condensation on the lid at all.

I did manage to peel the good egg off the rest, next time I will use your method your suggesting, thats a nice technique.

I'm very sure the rest of the eggs are bad, like I said they smell...HORRIBLE. So bad in fact they got my gagging as I was doing my peeling lol.
After I got the good egg away from the rest I smelled it and it was fine, not foul like the others.

So I'm super bummed that I only have one good egg out of all those from that clutch, but I'm glad it wasnt a total loss.
And my other clutch still has 10 great looking eggs.

I had an egg miscarry this year that I couldn't separate from a good egg. I cut open the bad egg and drained it then cut the excess shell off leaving only the shell that I was unable to separate. This was about 10 days into incubation. The good egg pipped this morning and everything looks great!

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Originally Posted by coolballsdave

I had an egg miscarry this year that I couldn't separate from a good egg. I cut open the bad egg and drained it then cut the excess shell off leaving only the shell that I was unable to separate. This was about 10 days into incubation. The good egg pipped this morning and everything looks great!

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well what a great trick!
I cant imagine having to cut these open lol they smell bad enough as it is.
Congrats on your new hatchling! :gj:

That is weird, I thought they got wet somehow. They may just be going bad if they didn't get wet. You can pull the eggs apart, you just have to be gentle. I pull all of my eggs apart. If you want to leave them together it should be fine. I did a sort of experiment my first year and left a dead egg in the whole way through. It was attached to one or two other eggs, and the other two eggs never died or got mold on them. The dead egg got so rotten and nasty it turned dark red by the end of the incubation.

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Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters

That is weird, I thought they got wet somehow. They may just be going bad if they didn't get wet. You can pull the eggs apart, you just have to be gentle. I pull all of my eggs apart. If you want to leave them together it should be fine. I did a sort of experiment my first year and left a dead egg in the whole way through. It was attached to one or two other eggs, and the other two eggs never died or got mold on them. The dead egg got so rotten and nasty it turned dark red by the end of the incubation.

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nope, no wetness.
Yeah I thought it was weird too, when I candled them on the DOH they had circular embryos with veins in them.
Now it seems those veins just didnt expand to the rest of egg.

Thats nasty about your rotton red egg lol didnt know they could turn that color. :P

They may have just not been strong embryos. A temp change maybe. They just weren't meant to be. You can leave the bad eggs if you don't want to cut them away. A good egg won't grow mold. We have a couple burm eggs going bad now that are stuck to good eggs. The good eggs candle great and have no mold at all while the bad ones are covered. But we cant get them apart. Sooo we left them.
If you can get the good egg away from the others you can. Just be careful and don't take to long with them out of the bator.
Good luck.

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Originally Posted by Amon Ra Reptiles

They may have just not been strong embryos. A temp change maybe. They just weren't meant to be. You can leave the bad eggs if you don't want to cut them away. A good egg won't grow mold. We have a couple burm eggs going bad now that are stuck to good eggs. The good eggs candle great and have no mold at all while the bad ones are covered. But we cant get them apart. Sooo we left them.
If you can get the good egg away from the others you can. Just be careful and don't take to long with them out of the bator.
Good luck.

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Yeah I guess they must have just been bad embryos...:(
I'm pretty upset about it, but these things happen I suppose I need to get used to that.
I was able to seperate the one good egg from the rest with no problems.
Thanks for everyones help!