Genetic Stripes loosing value to super stripes?

A friend who sort of mentors us on the hobby advised us to stay away from the G-stripes because they are quickly loosing value since everyone now wants the co-dom combo super stripe and they are so similar.

We had been planning to purchase a male super pastel butter in the fall to put to most of our still growing girls when they are ready.

Then I saw pics of the pastel butter G-stripe and fell in love. (They make me think of chipmunks!!! :)) We've since been considering getting either a super pastel butter het G-stripe or possibly a pastel butter G-stripe (Visual. Expensive, I know) and adding a female pastel G-stripe but after his advice I'm unsure if it would be a smart move.


So in everyone's opinion, will the super stripe phase out the demand for the G-stripe in the future?

The G-stripe has already lost that battle. A SS commands a much higher price than a G-Stripe.

I think they are both great projects, and both have a ton left that can be done with them.

Since SS requires 2 genes, it is just as hard to make as a G-Stripe, but the G-stripe cannot hang right now with the popularity of the YB complex in general.

One does not phase out the need for the other at all since there ARE differences in their respective appearances.

That theory doesn't make any since...A Super Stripe is not a Combo and can't reproduce itself!

The process of making Super Stripes or G. Stripes is no different of a time line...

For me it's just personal preference, do you like the clean look of a G or a little more pattern activity with SS. Both different and have their own place in the Bp world. I think the major difference is picking out the Spectors to make SS. Most people know a YB when they see one Spector not so much.

If anything I'm waiting to see the Tri Stripe combos :gj:

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Originally Posted by bubblz

Most people know a YB when they see one Spector not so much.

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based on a lot of the posts I can disagree with the statement about IDing YB:rolleye2::D
the benefit with the super stripe is that you do get 2 visual morphs rather than hets.

Both are visually very cool, to me. I love the G Stripe, and the G Stripe combos.

Economically though, they are a disaster. Demand, and therefore price, for the G Stripe stuff is so so soft. It always has been.

If you are looking to get into G Stripes because you visually enjoy them, go for it! But if you are looking at getting into G Stripes as a breeding project to sell, I would go in a different direction.

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Originally Posted by Robyn@SYR

Both are visually very cool, to me. I love the G Stripe, and the G Stripe combos.

Economically though, they are a disaster. Demand, and therefore price, for the G Stripe stuff is so so soft. It always has been.

If you are looking to get into G Stripes because you visually enjoy them, go for it! But if you are looking at getting into G Stripes as a breeding project to sell, I would go in a different direction.

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Well I do love them and I'm not into this hobby for money as much as enjoyment. That said however, I do want to try to focus on taking it in a direction that would be more financially sensible at least while I'm still starting out.

I just really need to ensure that the hobby can pay for itself so until I've made back my original money and used money made from breedings to further things along I want to try to keep myself thinking smart money-wise with my additions. So maybe I'll get my G-stripes in the future, but not quite yet:sigh2:

Thanks guys!

why not buying a specter female and a pastel lesser yellow belly male. im sure hed do great with the rest of ur females too and a pastel butter super stripe will probably look a bit like the pastel butter g stripe

although i really dig that combo too.

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Originally Posted by Robyn@SYR

Both are visually very cool, to me. I love the G Stripe, and the G Stripe combos.

Economically though, they are a disaster. Demand, and therefore price, for the G Stripe stuff is so so soft. It always has been.

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Robyn, I'm not sure why you think genetic stripes are an economical disaster :confused:? I have produced some nice genetic stripe combos, and sold them for good prices. I'll produce more this year, and I'm sure that they will sell as well.

One thing to keep in mind is that the superstripe, puma, and highway are a lot newer than the genetic stripe, so of course they are priced higher.

There is certainly room for both projects. I also have a superstripe complex group that I'm raising up. I'm sure if I make some nice looking animals from them that they will sell too.

Here are some genetic stripe combo pics, just for fun:

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/z...tch05_pygs.jpg

http://www.jefflumanreptiles.com/pro...28660_zoom.jpg

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/z.../misc/pic1.jpg

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/z.../misc/pic3.jpg

hell im still raising up hets for genetic stripe just because i like them. (and they were free) but genetic stripes lost their value in part to the vast array of dom and co dom stuff that came out at the time the genetic stripe stuff should have been taking off. everyone wants instant gratification these days. my buddy didnt want to deal with recessives at all. some are that way. i like the g-stripes i will be picking up some new genes this year im sure. they sell just not for very much
adam jeffery

I have to disagree as well with the idea of them being something not worth perusing. There is a ton still to be done with them and I too have sold several combos this season. Not to mention the Bells. They have made some knockouts like the pastel butter stripe, pastel yelllowbelly stripe, butterbee stripe and many more this last season that sell and sold for as much or more then the superstripe or it's combos. I for one will be working banana, ultramel, pastel enchi ghost and more into my own stripe projects and see the future being bright for the stripe combos. Here's another nice one you don't see every day. Genetic stripe orange ghost.http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...DSC_0015-1.jpg

I think they are visually terrific, and I love the combos, no doubt.

But we did a wide variety of morphs, and we hatched a good number of G Stripes and combos. G Stripes were consistently one of the worst sellers. I would guess that we sold perhaps 10% of them?

The rest were taken for trades, which folks would do, they just didn't want to come off any cash for them.

And selling hets? Ugh, even worse.

I have talked with a number of breeders at shows about G Stripes sales, and I never heard from one that said they sold strongly, they were always "ugh" about them as well.

Gorgeous stuff you have there Jeff, like I said, I personally love them, I am glad to hear you have done well with them!

I'm very glad I posted this thread and got actual info from people who've been in hobby a long time. Very informative. I don't fully understand why such an awesome morph wouldn't sell well:confused:

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I have had good luck selling G. Stripe stuff over the last 7 or 8 years! One of my favorites base Morphs!

If you like G. Stripes get them!!!

Genetic Stripes are awesome...I can't wait until my g-stripe girl is big enough to breed...she's also the meanest, most aggresive feeder I've ever had...she's been full of pi$$ and vinegar from day one...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3.../IMG_2375b.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3.../IMG_2381b.jpg

I fell in love with the gstripe when I fist saw them. That's why my first was a het. I have pretty much decided to wait until I can get a gstripe to breed him to so the offspring will all be het instead of poss het. The only problem is the cost for me since I am just starting. So I have decided to hold out on gstripes and work on getting a small collection together first of single morphs maybe doubles that I would want in the future.

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Originally Posted by jluman

Here are some genetic stripe combo pics, just for fun:

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/z...tch05_pygs.jpg

http://www.jefflumanreptiles.com/pro...28660_zoom.jpg

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/z.../misc/pic1.jpg

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/z.../misc/pic3.jpg

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If you ever decide you dont like those anymore, you could always send them to me! lol :please:

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Originally Posted by Coleslaw007

I'm very glad I posted this thread and got actual info from people who've been in hobby a long time. Very informative. I don't fully understand why such an awesome morph wouldn't sell well:confused:

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Hey Slendflaw, maybe think of it this way.. not all snakes are everyone's fancy, for selling ANYTHING you have to find the people who want that sort of thing, I know I would looooove some G Stripe snakes, who cares if they dont sell for such a high price as some of the other morphs, there are always morphs less sought after than XYZ, does that make them any less awesome? Nah, there will always be someone who will love them just because they are awesome, regardless of their price. Just have to find those people!

Okay I have heard a lot about G-stripes which i want to save up for but my mom has put a cap on my snake numbers until i move out... but what is the visual difference between a g and a ss... pics and an explanation would be MUCH appreciated. Sorry all these new morphs are so confusing to me, this is why i like my base morphs and their supers

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Originally Posted by pookie!

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If you ever decide you dont like those anymore, you could always send them to me! lol :please:




Hey Slendflaw, maybe think of it this way.. not all snakes are everyone's fancy, for selling ANYTHING you have to find the people who want that sort of thing, I know I would looooove some G Stripe snakes, who cares if they dont sell for such a high price as some of the other morphs, there are always morphs less sought after than XYZ, does that make them any less awesome? Nah, there will always be someone who will love them just because they are awesome, regardless of their price. Just have to find those people!

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Hi!! Welcome! This is my best friend, guys. She'll soon have BP's too cuz playing with mine is getting her addicted. Let's spread this sickness!

Glad you joined, maybe I'll have to join your pit bull forums now lol. Although I feel like you're more likely to get into snakes than I am to get a pit, you know I just want my shepherds. You're totally getting the bug though, I can see it:)



Yea but the snake we were considering was $4000 so I would have to be very sure the babies would sell well. I will probably mess around with G-stripe stuff at some point, just not get one as my most important male and a very high end multi-gene animal.

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