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  • 05-13-2012, 03:10 PM
    SuperD
    Spider female what male should i look at?
    Hi i just got my first Ball python a spider female about 1 and a half months old. She does not look like the conventional spider so i was wondering what male i should look at getting to breed some really nice morphs? I was thinking at a super pastel.
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  • 05-13-2012, 03:13 PM
    Royal Hijinx
    Calico. I repeat, Calico.

    Oh, and your pics are not showing up.
  • 05-13-2012, 03:27 PM
    Chewy
    I'm in the same boat as yourself, I have an ~1100gram 7 month monster female spider. She's a beast... I'm thinking of pairing her to my lesser in 10 months or so! Both will be good by then I think.
  • 05-13-2012, 03:28 PM
    Crazy4Herps
    Re: Spider female what male should i look at?
    Welcome to the forums and congrats on your first bp! The pictures aren't showing up for me either... Maybe try Photobucket? Or the gallery on this site?

    As for your question, I think you should definitely wait before making the decision to breed. It's a big job that can go horribly awry for both the female and the eggs if you aren't completely sure of what you're doing. Granted, it will be some years until she's old enough to breed, and it couldn't hurt to have a male on hand, but I don't think that getting into ball pythons with the intention to breed is necessarily the right way to get started in the hobby, if you know what I mean? Maybe see how she does as a pet for a year or so first?
  • 05-13-2012, 03:31 PM
    Slim
    Welcome to BP.net! I urge you to spend some time learning and practicing proper husbandry before you get too wrapped around the axle about breeding. You'll have plenty of time to lean while you grow your gril to breeding size.

    I can't see the photos either, but I second Jinx's suggestion...get a high quality Calico and make some smokin' Caliders :gj:
  • 05-13-2012, 03:33 PM
    Crazy4Herps
    Re: Spider female what male should i look at?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
    I'm in the same boat as yourself, I have an ~1100gram 7 month monster female spider. She's a beast... I'm thinking of pairing her to my lesser in 10 months or so! Both will be good by then I think.

    Wow, that really is a big girl! Sounds like she's a bit young to breed though? I think it's safest to wait until females are 3 years old before attempting to breed them.
  • 05-13-2012, 03:35 PM
    DakotaB
    Get a Lemon Blast.
  • 05-13-2012, 03:38 PM
    LotsaBalls
    At her size I wouldn't worry about getting a male. If you have the money to put into it now, get another female.
  • 05-13-2012, 03:48 PM
    Chewy
    Re: Spider female what male should i look at?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Crazy4Herps View Post
    Wow, that really is a big girl! Sounds like she's a bit young to breed though? I think it's safest to wait until females are 3 years old before attempting to breed them.

    I've read that the youngest some breeders go are 18 months, I'm feeling like with this girl.. at 18 months she'll be near 2000grams! I feed her once to twice a week, rejected a FT meal(just switched her so she's hesitant about FT still) ONCE while she started shed. The last day of her shed was feeding day again, I thought to just give it a shot. Left the FT rat in her tub and come back to her eating it! :]
  • 05-13-2012, 03:57 PM
    PweEzy
    Re: Spider female what male should i look at?
    I will say a pastel lesser. Queenbees are pretty sweet looking in my opinion!
  • 05-13-2012, 04:18 PM
    SuperD
    Re: Spider female what male should i look at?
    Thanks for all opinions guys! I bred snakes for many years and all kinds then i moved over to breeding tarantulas. I was intrigued by these balls and got one at the last expo we had here. I just wanted to get some ideas so long as to what to look out for. Thanks guys.
  • 05-13-2012, 04:30 PM
    SuperD
    Pics
  • 05-13-2012, 04:36 PM
    Slim
    Nice looking Spider :gj:
  • 05-13-2012, 04:39 PM
    Rob
    Something pastel would be sweet.
  • 05-13-2012, 04:58 PM
    Crazy4Herps
    Very cool spider!
  • 05-13-2012, 05:01 PM
    Crazy4Herps
    Re: Spider female what male should i look at?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
    I've read that the youngest some breeders go are 18 months, I'm feeling like with this girl.. at 18 months she'll be near 2000grams! I feed her once to twice a week, rejected a FT meal(just switched her so she's hesitant about FT still) ONCE while she started shed. The last day of her shed was feeding day again, I thought to just give it a shot. Left the FT rat in her tub and come back to her eating it! :]

    I don't want to get OT here, but I'd like to say this briefly... just because some ball pythons *can* breed at 18 months doesn't mean they should. Yes, weight is an important component in breeding, but so is age. 3 years is generally when females complete sexual maturation, and breeding before then is likely to cause complications with the female. In other words, it's in the best interest of the snake to wait.
  • 05-13-2012, 06:05 PM
    snakesRkewl
    I wouldn't wait, but that's just me, it's a personal choice.
    I would however slow down the pace and feed her so she isn't fat at 17 months old, I don't believe a snake can gain 1100 grams at 7 months old without being fat, and fat is not healthy.
    I have bred numerous females at 17 months of age and had nothing but normal out come, they either go or they don't go and none have ever given me an issue in any way.

    Pastel yellowbelly would be my choice for a prospective affordable male.
  • 05-13-2012, 06:31 PM
    Chewy
    She isn't obese, a little smaller than my 2010 female. I think the person I bought him from was misinformed.. or I have the shaq of ball pythons.
  • 05-14-2012, 01:57 PM
    EmberBall
    Please.....
    Do not make a Bumblebee. Unless it is your favorite morph combo and you just want one SO badly, make some Spider combo that is not plastered all over ever Ball Python classified. It is the most common, and probably lowest priced Ball combo out there.

    If you like the Spider look, and have limited funds, I would say use a YB or YB combo male. The Mojave Spider is pretty sweet too, and Mojave males are almost free nowadays. There is a Calico YB in the classifeds on KS, that is reasonably priced. If I was you, I would pick that bad boy up immediatly.

    I would wait until October or November to breed her, or just wait a complete year and get her well over 2 years old.
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