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  • 03-06-2012, 10:49 AM
    GlassPython
    Pigment loss? Has anyone seen this before?
    [IMG]http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/...eautiful03.jpg[/IMG]
    http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/...eautiful02.jpg
    http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/...eautiful01.jpg
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    One day he went into shed and was all brown and black, and when he shed what used to be brown is now white/yellowish. Does anyone know what this is known as? Is it bad? Any info/ideas would be great...
  • 03-06-2012, 11:37 AM
    Slim
    Not sure what caused the pigment loss, but your guy looks a little bit dehydrated.

    How old is your BP? I've seen pigment fading on older BPs, but not in a single shed. It usually happens over time.

    He never had any type of burn on that spot did he?
  • 03-06-2012, 11:43 AM
    jbean7916
    I've seen a couple posts where a snake has drastically changed in just one shed. I think 1 was a bee that looked anxanthic. Not sure what causes it though.

    sent from my EVO
  • 03-06-2012, 11:45 AM
    ballpythonluvr
    Re: Pigment loss? Has anyone seen this before?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Not sure what caused the pigment loss, but your guy looks a little bit dehydrated.

    How old is your BP? I've seen pigment fading on older BPs, but not in a single shed. It usually happens over time.

    He never had any type of burn on that spot did he?

    I second that your snake looks a bit dehydrated.
  • 03-06-2012, 11:51 AM
    snake lab
    Might be a new morph. Id name it the abracadabra ball lol. No but seriously ive seen pigment loss from snakes before that came on pretty sudden. Dont know exactlly what causes it. Is the animal eating regularly and all the other important things good like husbandry etc? Any signs of illness? Was it a full shed or in pieces? Do you use lights or heat pads?
  • 03-06-2012, 12:15 PM
    Vypyrz
    Re: Pigment loss? Has anyone seen this before?
    I have seen a few threads occassionally where the snake loses some pigment during sheds, but the color usually returns after a few sheds. Here is a thread where a spider turned completely gray in one shed, but at the end of the thread the OP posted a photo of the snake as the color was returning...

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...er-turn...gray
  • 03-06-2012, 12:26 PM
    satomi325
    Can it be some sort of nutrient deficiency?
    That's essentially what happens in birds who experience pigment loss.

    Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk
  • 03-06-2012, 01:23 PM
    GlassPython
    Re: Pigment loss? Has anyone seen this before?
    No sign of illness, drinks regularly, has never refused a meal as long as I had him, and he's been locking up with my female here lately. I thought about nutrient deficiency, and I've been looking around for a good liquid/powder that I can give him. Also, there's nothing for him to burn himself on, and all heat sources are controlled with a thermostat, and checked with a temp-gun.
  • 03-06-2012, 02:35 PM
    ExotixTowing
    Re: Pigment loss? Has anyone seen this before?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by satomi325 View Post
    Can it be some sort of nutrient deficiency?
    That's essentially what happens in birds who experience pigment loss.

    Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk


    First off that Spider was amazing with her new threads !!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JLC View Post
    It's like...while the new skin was developing right before the shedding process....the ink cartridge with the yellow/brown pigment went empty. She'll have to wait for a new shipment to come in before her color returns to normal. :P

  • 03-06-2012, 03:08 PM
    satomi325
    Re: Pigment loss? Has anyone seen this before?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ExotixTowing View Post
    First off that Spider was amazing with her new threads !!

    :confused::confused::confused:
  • 03-06-2012, 03:14 PM
    ExotixTowing
    Re: Pigment loss? Has anyone seen this before?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vypyrz View Post
    I have seen a few threads occassionally where the snake loses some pigment during sheds, but the color usually returns after a few sheds. Here is a thread where a spider turned completely gray in one shed, but at the end of the thread the OP posted a photo of the snake as the color was returning...

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...er-turn...gray

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by satomi325 View Post
    :confused::confused::confused:

    Must of been a few posts as I hit the quote button :O

    I think someone should try to morph a grey spider :D
  • 03-08-2012, 04:16 PM
    Keiness
    Re: Pigment loss? Has anyone seen this before?
    I had this happen to one of my snakes. A lesser male got out and under something (I can't recall exactly what), anyway he was fine, no abrasions or anything. One his next shed though, he lost all the color from the scales that must have rubbed. Now it looks like he totally rubbed his scales off...but they are all there, and all fine. The color went back to normal with a few sheds.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...w/IMG_9458.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...w/IMG_9460.jpg
  • 03-08-2012, 04:23 PM
    spitzu
    This has happened to a couple of mine, but they are all starting to get their color back unfortunately :( It looks great on an axanthic!


    http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i1...6/spots005.jpg
  • 03-08-2012, 05:45 PM
    meowmeowkazoo
    Re: Pigment loss? Has anyone seen this before?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ExotixTowing View Post
    Must of been a few posts as I hit the quote button :O

    I think someone should try to morph a grey spider :D

    They have, it's called an axanthic spider. :P
  • 03-08-2012, 06:00 PM
    Andy_G
    Re: Pigment loss? Has anyone seen this before?
    I have a "normal" female that gets paler and redder with every shed. She looked normal for her first two years of life and then started changing colors with every shed. This has been going on for the last 4-5 years and some of her daughters I held back 3 years ago are now starting to do the same thing.
  • 03-08-2012, 11:00 PM
    Salem Purrs
    I had this happen to my pastel male about two years ago. Freaked me out slightly, but nothing happened except a random color change when he'd shed. Nothing different about the scales except a lighter color, and its still noticeable but has faded. He just has a random patch of light scales on his neck and on one spot on his back.
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