New Arrival Didnt Eat,How Long Untill I should Offer again?

Ive had my new lesser a few days and he didn't eat the live hopper... How long until i should offer again? And what can i do with the mouse without breaching my quarantine, because i have no other snakes in quarantine... Its been a while since i had a new arrival so i need some memory refreshing :rolleyes: . Thanks guys.

Give him a week. If he didn't eat the mouse, keep the mouse separate from the rest of the colony. In effect, what you do is quarantine anything that comes into contact with your quarantined snake.

My quarantine room is two floors away from my colony. I also have a small rat setup in my quarantine room, that way nothing from the quarantine room ever goes near the colony (snake or rodent).

Okay, well i dont breed my own mice, so its a hopper and the new snake is 100g. Do you think it will grow so much in a week that i cant feed it to the snake anymore? thanks.

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Originally Posted by reptidude1

Okay, well i dont breed my own mice, so its a hopper and the new snake is 100g. Do you think it will grow so much in a week that i cant feed it to the snake anymore? thanks.

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Hes not talking about breeding mice.

When you offer a live meal to a new snake in collection, and it dont eat it. You dont go and feed that mouse to another snake in collection. SInce that mouse was exposed to the new snake, and could spread something if it had something to spread.


I offer food to all new arrivals at night first day i get them. Some eat some dont, the ones that dont, i leave them alone for about 10-14 days then offer and they eat right away. If you get pushy trying to get it to eat, you will only push it into a Fast which will be unhealthy for its size.


How is the snake setup, Pics will help as well.

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

Hes not talking about breeding mice.

When you offer a live meal to a new snake in collection, and it dont eat it. You dont go and feed that mouse to another snake in collection. SInce that mouse was exposed to the new snake, and could spread something if it had something to spread.


I offer food to all new arrivals at night first day i get them. Some eat some dont, the ones that dont, i leave them alone for about 10-14 days then offer and they eat right away. If you get pushy trying to get it to eat, you will only push it into a Fast which will be unhealthy for its size.


How is the snake setup, Pics will help as well.

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i know not to feed the mouse to my other snakes. It will obviously mess up the quarantine. I was asking if i kept the mouse for 10 days, will it be to big for the snake to eat, its a hopper now. And the setup is the exact same as all of my 2011 hatchings. It has newspaper sub straight, water bowl, black small Reptile Basics Hide, 6qt shoebox tub. The exact same as all of my other hatchlings. Ill get a pic if i can later on, thanks

So, my new guy decided to come out of his hide and actually move around a bit. Should i offer food or wait another couple of days? (i last offered on thursday)

I feed my younger snakes on a 4 day feeding schedule, so it probably wouldn't hurt. If he doesn't eat it tonight I'd give him a full week.

well, i dont want to stress him so much that it knocks him off feed completely, cant have such a small snake like that (71g) off feed=(

All I'm saying is that I don't think that it will hurt, but waiting a few more days won't either.

okay, thanks alot.

No dice. What do you guys think about leaving a dead f/t mouse in there ovr night... worked for me before with one of my new arrivals 2 years ago.. and how long until i should start getting worried about no feeding (sorry with all the newbie questions, haven't dealt with a new arrival shipped to me that size in 2 years)

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No dice. What do you guys think about leaving a dead f/t mouse in there ovr night... worked for me before with one of my new arrivals 2 years ago.. and how long until i should start getting worried about no feeding (sorry with all the newbie questions, haven't dealt with a new arrival shipped to me that size in 2 years)

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I don't like leaving dead rodents overnight, but I can't see how it would hurt the snake. I would leave in in there for an hour and if your snake doesn't eat it then toss it. I wouldn't be worried for a week or two more at this point.

http://img.tapatalk.com/47be1359-c389-519c.jpg

Setup pic to whoever would like to look. Same as my other snakes but not in a rack.

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http://img.tapatalk.com/47be1359-c389-519c.jpg

Setup pic to whoever would like to look. Same as my other snakes but not in a rack.

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Looks good as long as the little guy can get off the tape. I might use a slightly smaller water dish in a tub that small.

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Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant

Looks good as long as the little guy can get off the tape. I might use a slightly smaller water dish in a tub that small.

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it really isnt all that big.. it looks so big in the tub i know, but there actually is alot of room on the sides of it and its shorter... Idk why it came out looking so big

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it really isnt all that big.. it looks so big in the tub i know, but there actually is alot of room on the sides of it and its shorter... Idk why it came out looking so big

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Ok, it's probably because of the slanted sides of the dish. As long as your little guy can hang out on the cool side as well.

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Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant

Ok, it's probably because of the slanted sides of the dish. As long as your little guy can hang out on the cool side as well.

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yeah probably... and he can =)

http://img.tapatalk.com/47be1359-e302-5308.jpg

Coming outa his hide and becoming more active=] refused food last night so im going to try again saturday night...hopefully leaving him alone untill then will be beneficial

Just leave him totally alone for a week. Only open the tub to refill water until then. No handling until he eats. You may also want to throw a towel or something over the tub to make him feel more isolated and secure. And it's perfectly fine to leave a PK or FT rodent overnight. Sometimes, the funk of the warm dead mouse sitting there long enough will tempt them enough to eat.

as far as the towel goes... wont that cut off the air circulation?

so last night i had a extra f/t so i tried him on it, and he struck but didn't grab it. So i put a live hopper in with him and he didn't really seem all that interested? Any tips? im getting a little worried because this guys young and i don't want him off feed. Im positive my husbandry is spot on, because i keep all of my other balls the same way and they thrive. I really do not want to start assist feeding, but he's looking a bit skinny and i think ill have to if he doesn't eat soon. Tips?

Its been like 2 weeks since he ate.... Im getting worried with a snake this small...

how long do you guys think i should wait till i need to assist feed? And how long till i offer again now because after leaving him alone for like 10 days, he still didnt eat... the guy who sold him said he ate atleast 3 times and last ate on the 11th :( how much longer can he go without eating?

I'd wait another week, just leave him alone. He can go a while without eating, so I wouldn't get too worked up yet, but at 71 grams, a snake that has eaten at least 3 meals on it's own should be slamming food. I'd offer food weekly, and if he goes 4-5 weeks without eating, I'd start thinking about assist feeding.

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just leave him totally alone for a week. Only open the tub to refill water until then. No handling until he eats. You may also want to throw a towel or something over the tub to make him feel more isolated and secure. And it's perfectly fine to leave a pk or ft rodent overnight. Sometimes, the funk of the warm dead mouse sitting there long enough will tempt them enough to eat.

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Your Stressing the snake out. You posted this thread on the 19th, 11 days ago, In that time frame you should of only had one offering from the last refusal.

The more you stress,and keep pushing food in the face, the more itll back off. Wait 7 days, Do not Look at it, touch it. Add water when needed and thats it,

Go get a live fuzzy mouse, drop it in at night time and leave it there till the morning.

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

Your Stressing the snake out. You posted this thread on the 19th, 11 days ago, In that time frame you should of only had one offering from the last refusal.

The more you stress,and keep pushing food in the face, the more itll back off. Wait 7 days, Do not Look at it, touch it. Add water when needed and thats it,

Go get a live fuzzy mouse, drop it in at night time and leave it there till the morning.

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I only offered the one live hopper within 12 hours of offering a extra f/t i had left over, and only because he struck at the f/t one. And ill try that in a few days considering i just offered 2 days ago. Your making it sound like im throwing a live hopper in his hide every day. Im not a beginner i know not to touch him or look at him and i know not to throw food at him. Ive gotten 25 of my own babies to eat fine the last 3 years, just the first time im having trouble with one.

I have offered two times since this thread started. One 2 days after i posted the thread based on advice and once yesterday its not like im throwing a mouse in there every day. Also the first time was a f/t overnight witch other people that advised is just fine.

if he struck the FT i would have kept it in there with him.. if if you have tongs dangle it and shake it just a little as if it were alive and kicking..