Animal Abuse?

RANT ALERT: Watching Fear Factor right now. The challenge is for couples. The girl goes in a tank laying down and gets covered with ball pythons and some red tail boas. Their sizes range from babies up to adults. Most of them are baby balls. The guy had to stick his head in the tank and pick them up with his mouth and carry them over and drop/spit/fling/toss them into another tank. Wtf, this is so wrong. I cant imagine how stressed those snakes are and then getting dropped like 3 feet into another tank could really hurt them! Baby balls ribs/spine could definetly be damaged from a drop like that! Plus the idiots doing it are probably not being gentle and biting them. I was praying sooooo hard that the one 7 foot rtb they had in the tank would just whip around and bite the contestant right in the face. I found it to be extremely disgusting show of entertainment. The producers were probably like oh theyre just snakes, nobody cares if we abuse them. What if this was with puppies getting bit and tossed around? Then people would care I guess. Sorry for the rant but if anyone bothers to read all this please tell me if you feel the same way or if Im overreacting a little bit. Im considering writing a strongly worded letter to the shows producers but before I do Id like to see if I have a reason to or if Im being hasty... Thanks everyone

I missed the actual episode but I'm still going to write a letter. This is ridiculous.

Here is a link, im on tapatalk through my phone so i cant view the video but anyone on their computer should be able to:

http://www.nbc.com/fear-factor/video/snake-bite/1374619

fear factor has a facebook page...i just ranted there

I feel the same this is rediculus

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Originally Posted by mikeandsheleen

fear factor has a facebook page...i just ranted there

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Do you have to friend them or anything? Or just like the page?
I wanna do the same!
This is insane! I hope we can get as many people as possible to harass them with rants/letters/calls/emails/anything and maybe theyll learn a lesson!
I mean honestly who is in charge of caring for the wellbeing of the animals in these stunts? Wtf anyone with 10 minutes of bp experience would know NOT to do pretty much everything they did!

just posted on the fear factor page
spooky

you do not have to friend them...just search for "fear factor" at the top of the page; then just comment on tonights episode.

I've hated that show for years for the way it treats animals, especially snakes. There was one episode a long time ago, where the contestant had to lie in a Plexiglas box and get covered in corn snakes. There must have been a solid foot of baby corns just dumped on top of her. I was appalled. They were probably freaking out, getting squashed and rolled on... and how was the girl supposed to get out without hurting any of them? I'm going over there right now to express my disappointment that they're STILL doing this stuff :mad:

Fear Factory needs a lawsuit down there.. Well, I'd get lots of infractions if I said what I wanted to say. :)

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Originally Posted by Pickenprod

I've hated that show for years for the way it treats animals, especially snakes. There was one episode a long time ago, where the contestant had to lie in a Plexiglas box and get covered in corn snakes. There must have been a solid foot of baby corns just dumped on top of her. I was appalled. They were probably freaking out, getting squashed and rolled on... and how was the girl supposed to get out without hurting any of them? I'm going over there right now to express my disappointment that they're STILL doing this stuff :mad:

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I remember that... That episode made me stop watching if it's the one I'm thinking of..

Ranting won't do much good because they're always those people who think snakes have no rights. Facebook won't.. it will take away viewers, but nothing enough to damage Fear Factor. ;\ like I said... Lawsuit! :D

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Originally Posted by zeion97

Fear Factory needs a lawsuit down there.. Well, I'd get lots of infractions if I said what I wanted to say. :)

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Thats why i posted on the facebook page and used a rainbow of colorful words :D

I posted about this earlier in the General BP section. Maybe I posted in the wrong section. I wrote on their wall as well. It amazes me that they actually get away with this. Im in the process of writing an email. It was completed _ _ _ _ _d up what they did to those poor snakes. Some of them were only weeks old. Absolutely pathetic. :rage:

Trey

I totally just trolled the poop outta that page lol. I really hope the producers read my novels i wrote lol.

I posted on the main page instead of the comments and got insta-banned, lol.

That David guy is a giant turd......just sayin ;)

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Originally Posted by heathers*bps

That David guy is a giant turd......just sayin ;)

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Yeah I just had to get off that page because of him. (was posting as Aaron Swope)

Oh jeez. That David guys makes me face palm.
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000...ll_xlarge.jpeg

Or this one

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...se-d392y5h.jpg

I got a headache trying to explain to them media educated people.

Furthermore the video clip on NBC has been deleted

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

Furthermore the video clip on NBC has been deleted

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Shows someone is realizing they screwed up.

we need to make SURE that NBC knows that they screwed up

May not do any good, but I wrote them a email stating my displeasure. I hope they change their ethics.

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Originally Posted by KatStoverReptiles

May not do any good, but I wrote them a email stating my displeasure. I hope they change their ethics.

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what email address did you use?

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Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant

what email address did you use?

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Email was the wrong word. Sorry. I filled out a form on their website and sent it to them:

http://www.nbc.com/contact/general/

ok, thanks anyway

i saw this too, i had just walked in the door, and it was on the part right after that part when they were doing the close up on the rattler, and my dad went, hey look at all the snakes, all happy like, so i sat down, he rewound it, and when i saw that they had to use their teeth my reaction was what the f? it was rediculous. i hate how nobody cares that it was snakes (except us of course), but if they had done that to puppies or kittens, or even rats the whole world would have crapped a brick. they shouldve used rattlers for that stunt, the world would be alot better off. animal cruelty is the same no matter what animal is involved, and i hope to god they get their arses nailed to the wall for this. its like the whole cannonball thing with mythbusters, since it was for a tv show, nothings gonna happen to them, but if it were anybody elses accident, they'd probably be in prison

I think what is kinda getting over looked here is that someoone inside the reptile community/industry is supplying the snakes for these stunts.

Surely, NBC does not go out and purchase 100's of snake for an episode.

In my opinion the snake wrangler would be just as responsible, if not more so, than the network.

Classic case of "when two fools met"

One for suggesting this, and the other for going along with it.

Money has a funny way of clouding one's judgement sometimes though.

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Originally Posted by cottonball

I think what is kinda getting over looked here is that someoone inside the reptile community/industry is supplying the snakes for these stunts.

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thats a good point, it was probably petco :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by cottonball

I think what is kinda getting over looked here is that someoone inside the reptile community/industry is supplying the snakes for these stunts.

Surely, NBC does not go out and purchase 100's of snake for an episode.

In my opinion the snake wrangler would be just as responsible, if not more so, than the network.

Classic case of "when two fools met"

One for suggesting this, and the other for going along with it.

Money has a funny way of clouding one's judgement sometimes though.

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I had this thought too. Did anybody DVR the show? Maybe the supplier was listed in the credits.

Yea but no matter who the supplier was they probably didnt know. NBC most likely contacted them and just said we need x amount of snakes for a stunt on a show. They probably paid them well and they got the snakes back afterwards so the supplier didnt care. Im not trying to downplay this by any means but I think that the supplier may not have really been at fault.

If you accept payment to "loan out" a living animal and then that animal gets intentionally harmed or mistreated as the expressed purpose of the loan, you're definitely at fault. Someone who owns that many snakes doesn't fork (likely literally using a fork based on the rest of this) them over without being present for the stunt or at least asking what the purpose will be. IMHO whoever claimed expertise enough to rent out, aid in, and supervise this stunt should be the one to be hung for this.

Also, I linked this on another thread but anyone who is emailing/facebooking about this should definitely use some of the language from this page:

http://www.straypetadvocacy.org/PDF/...rueltyLaws.pdf

By what I read, you don't really have to stretch to define this as animal cruelty. They're not farming, hunting, or doing research. They shouldn't be biting 4 oz animals that don't have fur or scruff.

Has anyone contacted any other outside groups yet to possibly bring charges against the show or its producers or even its network as well as against the invidual or individuals who owned the snakes. I know media is normally against us as herp lovers but for once we may be able to fight back. I'm sure PETA will have a field day with them and trying to bring charges as well as the ASPCA. Just a thought. Id love to see them all get fined as well as jailtime and just for a royal kick in the shorts... A national apology on air from all of them for the mistreatment of the animals.

Saw this on my twitter feed:
"Fear Factor @NBCFearFactor
Contestants were specially fit with invisible retainers to protect the snakes from their teeth. #FearFactor
Retweeted by Joe Rogan"
Hopefully it was some kind of squishy plastic and they had a few animal experts on hand to make sure the babies didn't get roughed up too bad. I didn't see the episode, more a fan of his podcast and ufc. Lame stunt NBC.

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Originally Posted by Otolith

Saw this on my twitter feed:
"Fear Factor @NBCFearFactor
Contestants were specially fit with invisible retainers to protect the snakes from their teeth. #FearFactor
Retweeted by Joe Rogan"
Hopefully it was some kind of squishy plastic and they had a few animal experts on hand to make sure the babies didn't get roughed up too bad. I didn't see the episode, more a fan of his podcast and ufc. Lame stunt NBC.

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Even if they had specialty designed retainers the snakes were still.more then likely harmed when they were dropped. I missed the episode buy it sounds like they're trying to cover there asses.

Bawha. I've had clear retainers before. They don't do much except dull the teeth. You can still leave a bruise if you bite hard enough.

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Originally Posted by keith88

Has anyone contacted any other outside groups yet to possibly bring charges against the show or its producers or even its network as well as against the invidual or individuals who owned the snakes. I know media is normally against us as herp lovers but for once we may be able to fight back. I'm sure PETA will have a field day with them and trying to bring charges as well as the ASPCA. Just a thought. Id love to see them all get fined as well as jailtime and just for a royal kick in the shorts... A national apology on air from all of them for the mistreatment of the animals.

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I actual did contact PETA. i can post what I wrote to them but I dont wanna take up a huge space if no one cares lol. More people please contact them!

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

I actual did contact PETA. i can post what I wrote to them but I dont wanna take up a huge space if no one cares lol. More people please contact them!

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WHy in gods earth you contact PETA aka HSUS. They are against all animal ownership. Itll just cause more headache for us

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

WHy in gods earth you contact PETA aka HSUS. They are against all animal ownership. Itll just cause more headache for us

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because theyll get up nbc's butt for animal abuse...you dont have to agree with everything they do but some of it is good...

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

because theyll get up nbc's butt for animal abuse...you dont have to agree with everything they do but some of it is good...

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Nothing they do is good. There the same ppl that work to get Bans on exotics in the US. Yet you want to give them MORE fuel for the fire. :confused::confused:

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

Nothing they do is good. There the same ppl that work to get Bans on exotics in the US. Yet you want to give them MORE fuel for the fire. :confused::confused:

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-facepalm- Why on earth did you contact the very people who want to see pets extinct? Congrats on giving them more ammunition.

omg so aggitated right now they probably dont even check them afterwards to see if their injured not happy at all:mad: