OH HAI! (more pics)

Hai guise!

First off, Lemme show you mah' friend!
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...23354960_n.jpg

She is very soft and comfty :D
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However, something smells funny... What could it be?
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Bah, there it is! :colbert:





Anyways...
Volvagia has grown so much (might still be small, but being my first BP, I can tell the difference)

New pics: (her last shed was this tuesday)
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Cool pics but be careful, you could be asking for trouble bringing a snake around a cat.

i've heard a story of someone holding 2 retics and their cat came along and set off a feeding response lol

Sry ,but thats just plain stupid! Some people should not own these wondefull creatures.....

yea... because EVERY single cat is a treacherous, and wild animal. http://www.pulsorock.com/foro/images...s/rolleyes.gif

That cat always ignores the BP, and same way around. She even lives with an adult Hyper-active Golden Retriever, no issues.

I'm more than sure that other people in here let their cats/pets be near their BPs under supervision...

gorgeous pinstripe. Thanks for sharing!

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Originally Posted by Munizfire

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First off, this is a great picture. I thought your pictures were funny.

Second off,

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Originally Posted by village idiot

Sry ,but thats just plain stupid! Some people should not own these wondefull creatures.....

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It's not necessary to come on here and bash people. Yes, snakes can harm other pets, yes cats can harm reptiles, but to come on a forum and tell another member they shouldn't be allowed to have snakes after seeing a few pictures... :confused:

I have a cat that is incredibly well mannered around my reptiles. It doesn't mean I'm not careful, it's not like he was allowing them to be alone together. I think the OP has control of the situation.

yup, in all 3 pics I was holding the BP, JUST IN CASE... ;)

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Originally Posted by Munizfire

yea... because EVERY single cat is a treacherous, and wild animal. http://www.pulsorock.com/foro/images...s/rolleyes.gif

That cat always ignores the BP, and same way around. She even lives with an adult Hyper-active Golden Retriever, no issues.

I'm more than sure that other people in here let their cats/pets be near their BPs under supervision...

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I work as a vet tech, and you would be surprised by the number of people that come in and say the same thing you said.

It only take one time for something to happen.

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Originally Posted by eel588

First off, this is a great picture. I thought your pictures were funny.

Second off,


It's not necessary to come on here and bash people. Yes, snakes can harm other pets, yes cats can harm reptiles, but to come on a forum and tell another member they shouldn't be allowed to have snakes after seeing a few pictures... :confused:

I have a cat that is incredibly well mannered around my reptiles. It doesn't mean I'm not careful, it's not like he was allowing them to be alone together. I think the OP has control of the situation.

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Wow:gj:

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Originally Posted by village idiot

I work as a vet tech, and you would be surprised by the number of people that come in and say the same thing you said.

It only take one time for something to happen.

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You would be surprised how many people lie to make themselves not look bad. This is a forum, you are entitled to your opinion through your own experiences. I don't believe myself or the OP would have had a problem if you simply stated your experiences as a vet tech in a calm respectable manner.

[QUOTE=eel588;1710032]You would be surprised how many people lie to make themselves not look bad. This is a forum, you are entitled to your opinion through your own experiences. I don't believe myself or the OP would have had a problem if you simply stated your experiences as a vet tech in a calm respectable manner.[/QUOTE

Just a little thin skinned are you? I'm sure he's big boy and can handle it.

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Originally Posted by eel588

You would be surprised how many people lie to make themselves not look bad. This is a forum, you are entitled to your opinion through your own experiences. I don't believe myself or the OP would have had a problem if you simply stated your experiences as a vet tech in a calm respectable manner.

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You would be surprised how many people lie to make themselves not look bad. This is a forum, you are entitled to your opinion through your own experiences. I don't believe myself or the OP would have had a problem if you simply stated your experiences as a vet tech in a calm respectable manner.

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:rofl:Why would I lie? Just a little thin skinned are u?

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You would be surprised how many people lie to make themselves not look bad. This is a forum, you are entitled to your opinion through your own experiences. I don't believe myself or the OP would have had a problem if you simply stated your experiences as a vet tech in a calm respectable manner.[/QUOTE
:rofl:Why would I lie? Just a little thin skinned are u?

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I wasn't referring to you.

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I wasn't referring to you.

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Sry. I just think its a dumb move on his part. Again i see it every say and it breaks my heart.

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Sry. I just think its a dumb move on his part. Again i see it every say and it breaks my heart.

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It's not a big deal, no hard feelings.

I was just trying to let you know if you want people to consider changing their habits it's better to give advice in a respectable manner. The majority of people will not listen to someone down right calling them stupid, let alone telling them they shouldn't be allowed to own a snake.

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You would be surprised how many people lie to make themselves not look bad. This is a forum, you are entitled to your opinion through your own experiences. I don't believe myself or the OP would have had a problem if you simply stated your experiences as a vet tech in a calm respectable manner.

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Originally Posted by eel588

It's not a big deal, no hard feelings.

I was just trying to let you know if you want people to consider changing their habits it's better to give advice in a respectable manner. The majority of people will not listen to someone down right calling them stupid, let alone telling them they shouldn't be allowed to own a snake.

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Yea, I think have 'shown' my BP to my that cat (my sister's) outside of her tank a maximum of 3 times, and NEVER to my cat, so it even isn't a habit.

Besides, since day 1 that snake has been fed properly, her temps and humidity are monitored/maintained as they should, I change her water AT LEAST weekly, same thing with cleaning (not to mention that I spot clean AS SOON AS I see any filth). I don't know, but I think I'm quite able to keep a Ball Python... OBVIOUSLY as EVERYONE ELSE I have made a few newbie mistakes, but overall, I think I have done a great job... WAY BETTER than most people out there (excluding the vast majority of this forum :D)

The same risks exist in exposing pet cats to dogs and Vise-versa. I had a cat that was killed by a stray pit-bull, and I have a friend whose dog was blinded permanently by a cat. So, are you going to call stupid to everyone that has dogs and cats living together, and say that they shouldn't have them? (Just so you know, and I guess you do, both cats and dogs are WAY MORE aggressive by their nature than BPs) I know it's not the same thing, but it's not that far apart. I simply have known that cat for enough time to know it was safe to ASSUME she wouldn't strike at the BP. And still so, as I said, I was holding the BP on those three pictures, just to be safe...

Good night ;)

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Yea, I think have 'shown' my BP to my that cat (my sister's) outside of her tank a maximum of 3 times, and NEVER to my cat, so it even isn't a habit.

Besides, since day 1 that snake has been fed properly, her temps and humidity are monitored/maintained as they should, I change her water AT LEAST weekly, same thing with cleaning (not to mention that I spot clean AS SOON AS I see any filth). I don't know, but I think I'm quite able to keep a Ball Python... OBVIOUSLY as EVERYONE ELSE I have made a few newbie mistakes, but overall, I think I have done a great job... WAY BETTER than most people out there (excluding the vast majority of this forum :D)

The same risks exist in exposing pet cats to dogs and Vise-versa. I had a cat that was killed by a stray pit-bull, and I have a friend whose dog was blinded permanently by a cat. So, are you going to call stupid to everyone that has dogs and cats living together, and say that they shouldn't have them? (Just so you know, and I guess you do, both cats and dogs are WAY MORE aggressive by their nature than BPs) I know it's not the same thing, but it's not that far apart. I simply have known that cat for enough time to know it was safe to ASSUME she wouldn't strike at the BP. And still so, as I said, I was holding the BP on those three pictures, just to be safe...

Good night ;)

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I have to ask though, why risk it? For me this is very similar to the housing two snakes together issue. It may work 99% of the time, but its the 1% that hurts.

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Originally Posted by village idiot

... if you want people to consider changing their habits it's better to give advice in a respectable manner. The majority of people will not listen to someone down right calling them stupid, let alone telling them they shouldn't be allowed to own a snake.

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This. I'm positive if a customer walked into wherever you work where you are a vet tech, you're not going to blurt out "that's stupid" or "i just think that's dumb!" ...you would probably have to go work somewhere else if they told your boss.
You're just saying all that and blurting it out because you like to stir stuff up, and you're on the internet and you can. That's kind of sad. I'm glad the OP doesn't care though.
My dogs are around my friendly snakes all the time. An animal is an animal, and it's true you never know how one day they might react. Doesn't mean I'm going to get high and mighty at someone over it and say they're a bad owner. That's a bit of an overreaction and purposefully bratty. I'm pretty sure he didn't ask you to blurt out your un-thought-out opinion.

But, surely I suppose you know best...being a vet tech and all. What credibility to call someone stupid and say their husbandry is dumb! Quite eloquent as well.

Hm... I'm pretty sure it is up to the OP if he wants to "risk" it with his cat. Pretty sure a cat would not do any damage to a snake he is holding. I'm sorry, but I just don't see why anyone should get bent out of shape just because the OP tried to have a little fun with some pictures, his bp, and his apparently vicious cat :rolleyes:

Some people get too opinionated and need to stop judging so much. It's not like anyone here is innocent of doing things that could have resulted badly, but most likely would not have. Pretty sure the OP knows that there is a small risk that his cat might savagely go after his snake :P And I'm pretty sure those commenting against him doing it have done plenty of things comparable.



I'm not taking sides here, I just think it is completely unnecessary to point out the tiny flaws here when no one here is perfect themselves.

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Hm... I'm pretty sure it is up to the OP if he wants to "risk" it with his cat. Pretty sure a cat would not do any damage to a snake he is holding. I'm sorry, but I just don't see why anyone should get bent out of shape just because the OP tried to have a little fun with some pictures, his bp, and his apparently vicious cat :rolleyes:

Some people get too opinionated and need to stop judging so much. It's not like anyone here is innocent of doing things that could have resulted badly, but most likely would not have. Pretty sure the OP knows that there is a small risk that his cat might savagely go after his snake :P And I'm pretty sure those commenting against him doing it have done plenty of things comparable.



I'm not taking sides here, I just think it is completely unnecessary to point out the tiny flaws here when no one here is perfect themselves.

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Just a few opinionated, judgmental comments on your post ;).

1. I dont think its a bad thing for people to make comments on a post that dont 100% agree with the OP. However, I do agree things could have been said with a little more tact.

2. I will say, I have personally never had an outdoor cat, but I have had friends that do. Outdoor cats hunt and seem to be great catchers of birds, reptiles and rodents; and Ive never met a cat that was smart enough to know the difference between a wild animal and a pet.

3. As I said before, I see it as similar to people who house two ball pythons together. I bet on most posts when they post pics, one of the first questions people ask is why are they risking it.

I personally do not think it is worth the risk, but that may be because Ive had a similar thing go wrong before (ex: my sugar glider attacked my dog and did a decent amount of damage to one of his ears after 2 years of being fine around each other). I learned my lesson. Not worth it.

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Just a few opinionated, judgmental comments on your post ;).

1. I dont think its a bad thing for people to make comments on a post that dont 100% agree with the OP. However, I do agree things could have been said with a little more tact.

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Agreed. I still find there to be no reason to go off track with negative comments, but people can say what they want and that's fine.

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2. I will say, I have personally never had an outdoor cat, but I have had friends that do. Outdoor cats hunt and seem to be great catchers of birds, reptiles and rodents; and Ive never met a cat that was smart enough to know the difference between a wild animal and a pet.

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Perhaps, and cats are curious creatures, but not all cats are like that - as he stated, his cat is lazy and finds no interest. Generally if a cat finds no interest in an animal, there is little threat. They know what they like and cats are individuals. For example, my cats really like geckos, in that i want to eat you sort of way. But they find much less interest in the snakes.

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3. As I said before, I see it as similar to people who house two ball pythons together. I bet on most posts when they post pics, one of the first questions people ask is why are they risking it.

I personally do not think it is worth the risk, but that may be because Ive had a similar thing go wrong before (ex: my sugar glider attacked my dog and did a decent amount of damage to one of his ears after 2 years of being fine around each other). I learned my lesson. Not worth it.

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I think this is a bit different. Housing them together has more to do with being able to figure out who did what, as ball pythons are generally not cannibalistic, and if you call it risky due to the small chance of it, in comparison to this situation, I can see where you are coming from I suppose.


I guess I just don't see the point in negativity.
I don't see the point in creating conflict.
I try to remain optimistic, and if there are no current problems and risk is very low, I don't see what the big deal is.


Just my .02

GUYS GUYS GUYS! Stop! Lol take it easy!






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Originally Posted by Jessica Loesch

I guess I just don't see the point in negativity.
I don't see the point in creating conflict.
I try to remain optimistic, and if there are no current problems and risk is very low, I don't see what the big deal is.


Just my .02

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I just think conflict was created in the way things were said, not in what was said. The negativity/conflict comes when you take it too personally.

Guys I apologize for my post my emotions got the best of me. I should have thought it out a little more.

Thanks Tony

Animal cruelty Im caliing PETA right now :P

nice pretzel :P btw cat of day are so relaxed ..