daylight bulb

i have a daylight bulb, should it go over my warm or cold side, and is it considered basking, also, do i need a black bulb?

It should go on the warmer side. You want to create a basking spot with. Temp between 90-93 but still having the correct humidity. This is a pain without a UTH... and I am going to guess you mean a black light for night?

You don't night a light source for ball pythons. They do well with just an undertank heater that is hooked up to a thermostat.

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You don't night a light source for ball pythons. They do well with just an undertank heater that is hooked up to a thermostat.

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Oops.... I meant to say that to. My bad! (I'm just now.making the transition fro. Lights to heaters myself. Only took 10 months!)

i have a uth, no thermostat tho, i also have a light, but the humidity drops with it.

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i have a uth, no thermostat tho, i also have a light, but the humidity drops with it.

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Your best bet is to use the light until you can get a thermostat, my adult female actually got burnt from the UTH, which was supposed to go.no more then 95, and it was at least 115 if not 125. I couldn't even touch the glass it was touching. If You use the bulbs and get the right temperature, but not humidity, you can run a COOL MIST Humidifier, we went from 10-15% humidity, to 45-60%. When it's shedding time we just mist a little. (Out juvenile actually had a 1 piece shed and he has a 100 wat above his cage)

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Your best bet is to use the light until you can get a thermostat, my adult female actually got burnt from the UTH, which was supposed to go.no more then 95, and it was at least 115 if not 125. I couldn't even touch the glass it was touching. If You use the bulbs and get the right temperature, but not humidity, you can run a COOL MIST Humidifier, we went from 10-15% humidity, to 45-60%. When it's shedding time we just mist a little. (Out juvenile actually had a 1 piece shed and he has a 100 wat above his cage)

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i have more aspen over the heater and a hide over tht i made from paper bowls one and then another on top of it upside down, so hes pretty safe i think.

You can get a lamp dimmer for your UTH at Lowe's. They are pretty cheap but you would have to monitor the temps very closely when using one.

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You can get a lamp dimmer for your UTH at Lowe's. They are pretty cheap but you would have to monitor the temps very closely when using one.

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thanks (:

You need a thermostat. Here is a thread I posted (graphic) of someone who "thought" a UTH without a thermostat would be just fine. Your method of "using more aspen" won't work, especially if he burrows. Don't risk it. Don't be cheap.

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You need a thermostat. Here is a thread I posted (graphic) of someone who "thought" a UTH without a thermostat would be just fine. Your method of "using more aspen" won't work, especially if he burrows. Don't risk it. Don't be cheap.

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thanks for the feedback, well, where can i get one other than amazon, or ebay.

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You need a thermostat. Here is a thread I posted (graphic) of someone who "thought" a UTH without a thermostat would be just fine. Your method of "using more aspen" won't work, especially if he burrows. Don't risk it. Don't be cheap.

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btw, im not tht kid from the post in west virginia, and there are plenty of herp vets around! :gj:

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thanks for the feedback, well, where can i get one other than amazon, or ebay.

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Reptilebasics.com, coldbloddedcages.com, pretty much any reptile specialty store. Why can't you buy from amazon or ebay?

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Reptilebasics.com, coldbloddedcages.com, pretty much any reptile specialty store. Why can't you buy from amazon or ebay?

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i only use prepaid debit cards, and amazon and ebay to me are a joke, any actual stores where i can get one? other than online?

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i only use prepaid debit cards, and amazon and ebay to me are a joke, any actual stores where i can get one? other than online?

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Nope, unless you have a reptile shop nearby you, but you'll pay much more in person than you would online.

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Nope, unless you have a reptile shop nearby you, but you'll pay much more in person than you would online.

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makes sense..wht is the cheapest but best thermostat ?

Might be able to find the Hydrofarm tstat locally at a garden shop. Some hardware stores have them. Setup a dimmer temporarily much better than having a burnt snake. You just have to adjust it depending on temps in the house...

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Reptilebasics.com, coldbloddedcages.com, pretty much any reptile specialty store. Why can't you buy from amazon or ebay?

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To be fair, most UTH setups work without a thermostat because if your enclosure is big enough, your snake will have no problem moving to the cooler side if it gets too hot. I haven't used a thermostat for years and it has worked just fine. Having a thick layer of substrate helps too. Snakes usually tend to burrow into the substrate to press up on the glass for warmth in my experience.

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To be fair, most UTH setups work without a thermostat because if your enclosure is big enough, your snake will have no problem moving to the cooler side if it gets too hot. I haven't used a thermostat for years and it has worked just fine. Having a thick layer of substrate helps too. Snakes usually tend to burrow into the substrate to press up on the glass for warmth in my experience.

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Why do you register on a site just to Necro a thread with HORRIBLE advice? Really? "Works fine for me" is another persons "I took your advice and it killed my snake". Jeebus.

Paul

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To be fair, most UTH setups work without a thermostat because if your enclosure is big enough, your snake will have no problem moving to the cooler side if it gets too hot. I haven't used a thermostat for years and it has worked just fine. Having a thick layer of substrate helps too. Snakes usually tend to burrow into the substrate to press up on the glass for warmth in my experience.

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A) this thread is almost 8 years old....

B) saying you don't need a thermostat is HORRIBLE advice. Google search snake burns...

It's our responsibility as keepers to keep our pets the best we can.

When I teach my niece how to ice skate hopefully she doesn't NEED a helmet, but you bet your butt she's gonna wear one... because it's MY RESPONSIBILITY to keep her safe. I would much rather have her safe and put her well being first. Maybe she never falls and hits her head, but maybe she does...shell be ok because her Uncle cared enough to get her a helmet...

Maybe your heating equipment never fails...but wouldn't you rather not take that chance???? I'd feel like a pretty HUGE ass if my snake was burned or killed because I couldn't be bothered to provide proper equipment to keep the animal safe. The snake doesn't have a choice, it's up to US to do the RIGHT thing.