shed not coming off.

ok, my baby ball wont shed, will it come off next shed? should i go to a vet?

No a vet is not needed. A little more info please... has the baby partially shed or started and has not shed at all. If you have a partial shed and there is flaking bit and bobs around try soaking her for 20 min in 84-7ºF water for 10 to 20 min and then give her something to rub against (folded cardboard or a textured hide...) and let her be for a bit and see if she gets it off her self.
If there is no sign of shed yet it may not have occured yet and you just need to wait and keep the humidity correct or a touch higher. (60-70%) it will happen.

my humidity stays around 57 regularly, and now they stay around 73 for shed, he had it on his neck/nose, and i helped him pull it off a little because he was just laying under his hide, but its just now below his neck/edge of the head. any help?

You need to give your snake a little more time here and please don't pull off any more of the skin. Just make sure your humidity is up and wait a few days.

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my humidity stays around 57 regularly, and now they stay around 73 for shed, he had it on his neck/nose, and i helped him pull it off a little because he was just laying under his hide, but its just now below his neck/edge of the head. any help?

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How many threads are you going to start on this? How many times are you going to ignore good advice and continue to stress out your snake with your obsessive behavior?

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-shed-problems

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-Snake-in-shed

You need to leave that animal alone. You aren't helping him. All you are doing is making a mess out of this.

Get involved in a good book for the next week and let that snake do it's thing on it's own.

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How many threads are you going to start on this? How many times are you going to ignore good advice and continue to stress out your snake with your obsessive behavior?

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-shed-problems

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-Snake-in-shed

You need to leave that animal alone. You aren't helping him. All you are doing is making a mess out of this.

Get involved in a good book for the next week and let that snake do it's thing on it's own.

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i havent even touched him, so before you go and run your trap, know what you're talking about, i dont need to read, ive got school and homework to do,

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i havent even touched him, so before you go and run your trap, know what you're talking about, i dont need to read, ive got school and homework to do,

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No need to get huffy. Skiploder is just trying to help. You have made enough threads about this asking the same questions. Take a deep breath and chill. Let the snake do this shedding by itself and see what happens. If the shed is stuck, then you can take action.

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No need to get huffy. Skiploder is just trying to help. You have made enough threads about this asking the same questions. Take a deep breath and chill. Let the snake do this shedding by itself and see what happens. If the shed is stuck, then you can take action.

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he just lays there, not even attempting to get it off, ill take pics nd then post them here, ill show you what it looks like, then tell em if it looks ok, or if i should do something.

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he just lays there, not even attempting to get it off, ill take pics nd then post them here, ill show you what it looks like, then tell em if it looks ok, or if i should do something.

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Ok, good. Pics will be of a big help.

how do i insert a picture, without a link, because i took it from my webcam.

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how do i insert a picture, without a link, because i took it from my webcam.

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If I'm not mistaken you put it in to an image hosting website and then post the link in to your post. I think. not 100% sure.

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If I'm not mistaken you put it in to an image hosting website and then post the link in to your post. I think. not 100% sure.

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ok thankss.

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http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/...es/IMG0062.jpg


if you can see the little white "line" thts where he ended the shed start, now he wont even try to get it off, the rest of his body is dull, the skin i can tell is dying to come off. but also is it a normal or a morph, can you tell?

It's pretty hard to see it. Is it that white looking line below the head?

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It's pretty hard to see it. Is it that white looking line below the head?

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yeah. ill take a better one on my phone, in a while, after i find the thing for my sd card...

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i havent even touched him, so before you go and run your trap, know what you're talking about, i dont need to read, ive got school and homework to do,

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Watch your mouth kid. People have been trying to help you over three threads and your obsessive behavior has caused this. That's the reality of it. Grow up and deal with the consequence of YOUR actions. You can start by not starting any more threads on this and you can follow that up with leaving the snake alone.

I posted a link to two threads where you admitted to messing with that snake and peeling shed skin off of him so don't BS me with this "I haven't touched him" crap.

For the umpteenth time - leave the snake alone. He is stressed from all of the "attention" you are giving him. Give him a humid hide and let him do his thing. He will shed when he is good and ready.

I've had snakes go blue, clear and then take almost two weeks to shed, so calm yourself down.

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Watch your mouth kid. People have been trying to help you over three threads and your obsessive behavior has caused this. That's the reality of it. Grow up and deal with the consequence of YOUR actions. You can start by not starting any more threads on this and you can follow that up with leaving the snake alone.

I posted a link to two threads where you admitted to messing with that snake and peeling shed skin off of him so don't BS me with this "I haven't touched him" crap.

For the umpteenth time - leave the snake alone. He is stressed from all of the "attention" you are giving him. Give him a humid hide and let him do his thing. He will shed when he is good and ready.

I've had snakes go blue, clear and then take almost two weeks to shed, so calm yourself down.

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dont even try and tell me what to do, im trying to do the best for my FIRST, i repeat, FIRST snake, and just because im a noob at shedding, doesnt give you any right to try and tell me what i have and havent done, because since the last thread the only thing ive done is check temps, and humidity, so just shut your mouth, k?

Could we not argue over a thread? This thread is about the health of a snake. Not accusing one another of crap.

Thanks,

RJ

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Could we not argue over a thread? This thread is about the health of a snake. Not accusing one another of crap.

Thanks,

RJ

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JUST WHAT I WAS WAITING ON SOMEONE TO SAY, EVERYONE ON THIS SITE IS AMAZING, BUT THIS GUY IS JUST GOING ON AS [a jerk],

Ok people. Let's all chill out and take a breather. Jasonx, seriously, you need to just let that little snake be for a while. Let's not turn this thread into a fighting match please. Skiploder is just trying to give you advice here. I trust his advice because he knows a lot about these snakes. I promise you that your snake will shed when it is ready.

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Ok people. Let's all chill out and take a breather. Jasonx, seriously, you need to just let that little snake be for a while. Let's not turn this thread into a fighting match please. Skiploder is just trying to give you advice here. I trust his advice because he knows a lot about these snakes. I promise you that your snake will shed when it is ready.

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http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/...118_123354.jpg this is a better picture.

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You just need to wait and keep the humidity correct or a touch higher. (60-70%) it will happen.

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You need to give your snake a little more time here and please don't pull off any more of the skin.

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Get involved in a good book for the next week and let that snake do it's thing on it's own.

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Take a deep breath and chill. Let the snake do this shedding by itself and see what happens.

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JUST WHAT I WAS WAITING ON SOMEONE TO SAY, EVERYONE ON THIS SITE IS AMAZING, BUT THIS GUY IS JUST GOING ON AS [a jerk]

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When you are finished throwing your little tantrum, see if you can't see the common theme here.

Here, I'll help you out.

Leave your snake alone and let it do it's thing.

You are now taking it out of it's enclosure and taking photos of it? For the umpteenth time, leave the poor animal alone.

BTW: I got a kid your age - if I caught him spamming threads and picking internet fights (this ain't the first one you've picked) I'd take away his computer access for three months.

You need a major attitude check kid, I hope one of your parents is checking on your online activity and corrects you accordingly.

Jasonx, people are taking time to help you and to give their more experienced advice. Skiploder merely pointed out that you're making multiple threads of the same topic, which is unnecessary, and that you seemed to be ignoring advice given to you. No need to fly off the handle at him or anyone else. You said this is your "first snake", so why not listen to the veterans here who've owned hundreds of snakes or are possibly even some of the most well-known breeders in the world? We've all gone through bad sheds and we know how to deal with them. I know this is gonna set you off, but the experienced people kinda DO have a right to tell you how it's done, because they DO know how it's done.

We post because we want to help, not because we want to make you look stupid. You're obviously concerned about your snake, so why not follow the advice? I know it's hard to not help, but snakes are solitary creatures; he'll get through a stuck shed. The only thing you might have to do is give him a 30-minute soak. After that, just let him do his thing. :)

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Jasonx, people are taking time to help you and to give their more experienced advice. Skiploder merely pointed out that you're making multiple threads of the same topic, which is unnecessary, and that you seemed to be ignoring advice given to you. No need to fly off the handle at him or anyone else. You said this is your "first snake", so why not listen to the veterans here who've owned hundreds of snakes or are possibly even some of the most well-known breeders in the world? We've all gone through bad sheds and we know how to deal with them. I know this is gonna set you off, but the experienced people kinda DO have a right to tell you how it's done, because they DO know how it's done.

We post because we want to help, not because we want to make you look stupid. You're obviously concerned about your snake, so why not follow the advice? I know it's hard to not help, but snakes are solitary creatures; he'll get through a stuck shed. The only thing you might have to do is give him a 30-minute soak. After that, just let him do his thing. :)

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well nobody likes a smartellic, which i am, but this guy just kept "internet yelling" ranting and raving, like crazy,

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well nobody likes a smartellic, which i am, but this guy just kept "internet yelling" ranting and raving, like crazy,

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From what I saw it wasn't yelling, it was annoyance of the fact that you were blatantly disregarding helpful and good advice.

As for the smart-aleck part, when asking for advice you need to lose the 'tude and learn to listen. Sometimes when people tell you the things you don't want to hear, or in a way you don't wanna hear, doesn't give you a right to curse them out or be rude back.

No more name calling or inappropriate language is going to be tolerated in this thread. Choose your words wisely.

This is advice:

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When you are finished throwing your little tantrum, see if you can't see the common theme here.

Here, I'll help you out.

Leave your snake alone and let it do it's thing.

You are now taking it out of it's enclosure and taking photos of it? For the umpteenth time, leave the poor animal alone.

BTW: I got a kid your age - if I caught him spamming threads and picking internet fights (this ain't the first one you've picked) I'd take away his computer access for three months.

You need a major attitude check kid, I hope one of your parents is checking on your online activity and corrects you accordingly.

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This is a rant:

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JUST WHAT I WAS WAITING ON SOMEONE TO SAY, EVERYONE ON THIS SITE IS AMAZING, BUT THIS GUY IS JUST GOING ON AS [a jerk],

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You are coming off as a punk, Jason. Back away from the keyboard and actually read what people are saying about you and your behavior.

You are embarrassing yourself. Show a modicum of maturity and not only heed the advice that's been given to you, but show the Forum that your parents didn't raise a snotty-nosed brat. At your age, your obsessive and sometimes abusive behavior reflects bad on not only you, but your parents.

Even if you refuse to recognize the embarrasment you are bringing on yourself, ask yourself what your mother or father would think if they saw what you are posting and the manner in which you are behaving. If you can't muster up the self-respect to control yourself for your sake, control yourself for theirs.

Skip has more experience than most his advise is always good and correct, backed by fact not guessing.


The shedding process is usually 10-18 days depending. Often the first signs are missed as they are subtle. Stress can lead to poor incomplete sheds, mucking about with your animal is not helping and likely making a small issue, bigger. Make sure the humidity is 60-70% and give him ten days and see what happens. Pulling off shed early can damage the new skin underneath and start a second shed cycle.

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and i helped him pull it off a little because he was just laying under his hide,

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We read very well...

Jasonx,

I would suggest doing what they "tell" you to do. Obviously you could choose not to do it but you would hurt your snake making a matter worse than it is. Your snakes health is more important than accusing people.

Skiploder,

You posted back. Obviously, in a way, you were probably wanting a rant. If you would have let his ranting post alone the subject would have subsided a lot quicker. In a sense you fed the fire per-say. I am not bashing on you I am just giving an opinion based on what I saw.

Thanks,

RJ

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Jasonx,

I would suggest doing what they "tell" you to do. Obviously you could choose not to do it but you would hurt your snake making a matter worse than it is. Your snakes health is more important than accusing people.

Skiploder,

You posted back. Obviously, in a way, you were probably wanting a rant. If you would have let his ranting post alone the subject would have subsided a lot quicker. In a sense you fed the fire per-say. I am not bashing on you I am just giving an opinion based on what I saw.

Thanks,

RJ

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RJ:

No, not wanting a rant.

Just getting a point across.

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RJ:

No, not wanting a rant.

Just getting a point across.

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I understand what you're saying, but posting the same thing multiple times was redundant. It just made him rant more. After giving a suggestion the first time you shouldn't post it again for if he didn't get the point the first I doubt he will anytime after that. I'm not trying to start an argument. I am also not choosing sides. I just thought I would give my opinion on both of (what I thought) were your and his wrongdoings.

Thanks,

RJ

it came off, its all good :D <3 apologies to skiploder, admins, and more. c;

patience is often required dealing with reptiles, they do not seem to measure time like mammals do. Something positive for you to take away from this.

now, im going to post a picture of him, can you tell me if hes a normal or morph of some sort?

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I understand what you're saying, but posting the same thing multiple times was redundant. It just made him rant more. After giving a suggestion the first time you shouldn't post it again for if he didn't get the point the first I doubt he will anytime after that. I'm not trying to start an argument. I am also not choosing sides. I just thought I would give my opinion on both of (what I thought) were your and his wrongdoings.

Thanks,

RJ

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RJ:

We have a difference in opinion. The point needs to be driven home, as lately we have had more than our share of shed related questions.

The message needs to be the same:

Leave the snake alone.
Don't bathe it.
Don't peel it.
Don't turn the viv into a humidifier.
Don't bother the snake to take pics of it.
Be patient.
Curb your anxiety.

As young master Jason was not hearing the message, I kept repeating it.

Hi Jason,

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http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/...118_123354.jpg this is a better picture.

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now, im going to post a picture of him, can you tell me if hes a normal or morph of some sort?

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He's a nice normal - we can see from the picture you put up in the first quote.

Let him settle down now for 5 days with no interaction at all - just spot cleaning his enclosure then you can try and feed him.

He needs time to recover in all likelyhood and feel secure and happy again. :)


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