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  • 11-10-2011, 03:31 PM
    Ezekiel285
    Any Programmers/Developers?
    I'm a computer science major and was just curious if there are any other programmers on here. :)
    If so what languages do you know and what kind of work do you do?

    As for me, I'm decent in Java, learning C++ now, and have toyed around a little with python. I also know a little HTML and next semester will be learning Javascript, CSS, PHP, and more HTML.

    My future plans are either working for a federal agency (FBI) or to be a developer somewhere. Haven't decided which way I'm gonna go yet.

    Edit: i just realized my reason for posting this was to delay working on my C++ homework, LOL
  • 11-10-2011, 03:59 PM
    Kinra
    I'm a Software Developer. I have a Bachelor's of Science in Software Engineering and I graduated last year. :D

    I work with healthcare software and I love it. I did internships with GE Healthcare for 2 years, I worked several months with a small startup and I currently work for a company called Epic. Epic has been the best so far, but I seem to be one of the few with plans to stay with the company long term. Software development is not usually a 9-5 job which I think confuses a lot of people. This week alone I will work a min of 51 hours, but I'm okay with that. The only think that stinks is that I am salary so no overtime. :(

    I know Java, C, C++, C#, HTML, SQL, Silverlight, WPF, VB, M, XML/XSL (if that counts) and some assembly. Most of that I learned in school. I love working with WPF, Sliverlight, C# and SQL and I have practical experience with them all. I currently work with VB and M. I like M but I could do without VB. :P
  • 11-10-2011, 04:03 PM
    che
    I'm a second year computer science student.

    Currently working with Java, VB and SQL. Have done html and will do C soon.

    I'm really enjoying VB and java so far.
  • 11-10-2011, 04:11 PM
    Ezekiel285
    Re: Any Programmers/Developers?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kinra View Post
    I'm a Software Developer. I have a Bachelor's of Science in Software Engineering and I graduated last year. :D

    I work with healthcare software and I love it. I did internships with GE Healthcare for 2 years, I worked several months with a small startup and I currently work for a company called Epic. Epic has been the best so far, but I seem to be one of the few with plans to stay with the company long term. Software development is not usually a 9-5 job which I think confuses a lot of people. This week alone I will work a min of 51 hours, but I'm okay with that. The only think that stinks is that I am salary so no overtime. :(

    I know Java, C, C++, C#, HTML, SQL, Silverlight, WPF, VB, M, XML/XSL (if that counts) and some assembly. Most of that I learned in school. I love working with WPF, Sliverlight, C# and SQL and I have practical experience with them all. I currently work with VB and M. I like M but I could do without VB. :P

    That's awesome! That's quite the list of languages, hopefully i will have that many under my belt one day. I'm learning though that once you have one it's pretty easy to pick up others. As far as staying with the company, i feel like many programmers jump from company to company until they find a place that feels right (this is just what i've gathered from people i've talked to). That's great though that you like your job! I'm hoping for a Dell internship this summer with a connection i recently met.

    We don't offer Software Engineering, do you know the main differences between that and Computer Science?
  • 11-10-2011, 04:11 PM
    Ezekiel285
    Re: Any Programmers/Developers?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by che View Post
    I'm a second year computer science student.

    Currently working with Java, VB and SQL. Have done html and will do C soon.

    I'm really enjoying VB and java so far.

    I'm in my second year as well :)
  • 11-10-2011, 04:24 PM
    Kinra
    Re: Any Programmers/Developers?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ezekiel285 View Post
    That's awesome! That's quite the list of languages, hopefully i will have that many under my belt one day. I'm learning though that once you have one it's pretty easy to pick up others. As far as staying with the company, i feel like many programmers jump from company to company until they find a place that feels right (this is just what i've gathered from people i've talked to). That's great though that you like your job! I'm hoping for a Dell internship this summer with a connection i recently met.

    We don't offer Software Engineering, do you know the main differences between that and Computer Science?

    I've found that it is easier to learn new languages once you know one, but then the more you know the harder it gets to remember exact syntaxes. :P

    It's always good to enjoy your job, but there are days where I go home and don't ever want to go back. :P Epic is not an easy company to work for, and missed deadlines get you into a LOT of trouble. >_< Dell would be a cool place to intern, and I highly recommend you get internships in before you graduate. I worked at a grocery store my first 2 years of college and one of my managers was a recent graduate that couldn't find work because he never did an internship and most of them are unpaid. It really worried me and pressed me to get work experience in before I graduated.

    The major difference I think between Computer Science and Software Engineering is that Software Engineering is a lot more structured. The only electives I had were what English class I wanted to take. I know so many languages because they were part of the curriculum. I didn't take any networking classes or basic computer classes either. The closest I came to that was the prerequisite to the assembly course that I took and that was about circuits. I also took classes on Systems Design and Analysis, User-Centered Design, Databases, ect... I also took a class that spanned 2 semesters that was more like work. We worked as a classes of about 20 to work on a project requested by the school. I also took a 2 semester class that focused on Software Development. We talked about the processes, working with non-technical people, team building skills, things like that. In short, my degree is a lot more focused than a typical Computer Science degree. :)
  • 11-10-2011, 04:27 PM
    evan385
    Re: Any Programmers/Developers?
    I'm a freshman in a degree program for Database Design and Development. Should be ready to go after two years.
  • 11-10-2011, 04:29 PM
    Ezekiel285
    Re: Any Programmers/Developers?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kinra View Post
    I've found that it is easier to learn new languages once you know one, but then the more you know the harder it gets to remember exact syntaxes. :P

    It's always good to enjoy your job, but there are days where I go home and don't ever want to go back. :P Epic is not an easy company to work for, and missed deadlines get you into a LOT of trouble. >_< Dell would be a cool place to intern, and I highly recommend you get internships in before you graduate. I worked at a grocery store my first 2 years of college and one of my managers was a recent graduate that couldn't find work because he never did an internship and most of them are unpaid. It really worried me and pressed me to get work experience in before I graduated.

    The major difference I think between Computer Science and Software Engineering is that Software Engineering is a lot more structured. The only electives I had were what English class I wanted to take. I know so many languages because they were part of the curriculum. I didn't take any networking classes or basic computer classes either. The closest I came to that was the prerequisite to the assembly course that I took and that was about circuits. I also took classes on Systems Design and Analysis, User-Centered Design, Databases, ect... I also took a class that spanned 2 semesters that was more like work. We worked as a classes of about 20 to work on a project requested by the school. I also took a 2 semester class that focused on Software Development. We talked about the processes, working with non-technical people, team building skills, things like that. In short, my degree is a lot more focused than a typical Computer Science degree. :)

    Gotcha, that sounds really cool. This dell internship is paid and i would live in a company apartment (with traveling expenses paid as well) so it would be an awesome deal. I think i'm going to try to do FBI or some other federal agency which is why i'm working for the campus police right now to get experience in that. I love programming but with FBI I would be a field agent and get to be out and about more often.
    I wish my degree was more focused... i freaking hate core classes :rage:
  • 11-10-2011, 04:31 PM
    Ezekiel285
    Re: Any Programmers/Developers?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by evan385 View Post
    I'm a freshman in a degree program for Database Design and Development. Should be ready to go after two years.

    Cool, what languages will you be working in?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kinra View Post
    I've found that it is easier to learn new languages once you know one, but then the more you know the harder it gets to remember exact syntaxes. :P

    Haha, just with my two and a half languages i can already tell syntax is not gonna be fun when switching from language to language.
  • 11-10-2011, 04:37 PM
    Kinra
    Re: Any Programmers/Developers?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ezekiel285 View Post
    Gotcha, that sounds really cool. This dell internship is paid and i would live in a company apartment (with traveling expenses paid as well) so it would be an awesome deal. I think i'm going to try to do FBI or some other federal agency which is why i'm working for the campus police right now to get experience in that. I love programming but with FBI I would be a field agent and get to be out and about more often.
    I wish my degree was more focused... i freaking hate core classes :rage:

    Oh I still had to take core classes. Whoever thought history at 8am was a good idea was nuts, but it did help me structure my schedule so I could still work. :P I had to take a couple of English classes, History, Math, Science and Art, but the rest of my classes were still very structured. I had 5-6 classes every semester and they were all required to graduate, and I don't just mean in terms of credits earned.

    The job with Dell does sound pretty sweet. :)
  • 11-10-2011, 04:39 PM
    evan385
    Re: Any Programmers/Developers?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ezekiel285 View Post
    Cool, what languages will you be working in?



    Haha, just with my two and a half languages i can already tell syntax is not gonna be fun when switching from language to language.

    Actually I have no idea. Probably HTML and Java. Don't know much about this, just like computers and heard I could make up to $100 an hour. Which will feed my reptile addiction :D
  • 11-10-2011, 04:42 PM
    Ch^10
    I have a B.S. and an M.S. in Mechanical Engineering and am currently about 1/2 way done with my Ph.D. in Mechanical/Biomechanical Engineering. My dissertation requires the use of multiple programming languages.

    I have a lot of experience with Mathematica and MATLAB, and some with HTML, C/C++, and Objective C (iPhone app development). I am currently developing in CUDA C, which is very similar to C and enables GPU computing (parallel processing).

    My master's thesis involved the development and characterization of novel ceramic/glass materials, so programming for me is a bit of a thorn in the foot. It is slowly growing on me though after 4 years of code development...
  • 11-10-2011, 04:49 PM
    Kinra
    Re: Any Programmers/Developers?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by evan385 View Post
    Actually I have no idea. Probably HTML and Java. Don't know much about this, just like computers and heard I could make up to $100 an hour. Which will feed my reptile addiction :D

    I wouldn't get your hopes up too high of landing a $100/hour job, especially with just an associates degree. Don't get me wrong, database admins make good money, but you won't get a $100/hour job as soon as you finish school. You might make more working as a consultant than as a full time employee, but work isn't always steady when you do that. That's just my :twocents:.

    You might want to look into the classes you are going to be taking. My best guess is that they are going to be teaching you SQL at some point since the most common database systems are Oracle and Microsoft SQL Sever and both of with use a version of SQL.
  • 11-10-2011, 04:49 PM
    Ezekiel285
    Re: Any Programmers/Developers?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kinra View Post
    Oh I still had to take core classes. Whoever thought history at 8am was a good idea was nuts, but it did help me structure my schedule so I could still work. :P I had to take a couple of English classes, History, Math, Science and Art, but the rest of my classes were still very structured. I had 5-6 classes every semester and they were all required to graduate, and I don't just mean in terms of credits earned.

    The job with Dell does sound pretty sweet. :)

    Yea, sounds about like my schedule, haha

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by evan385 View Post
    Actually I have no idea. Probably HTML and Java. Don't know much about this, just like computers and heard I could make up to $100 an hour. Which will feed my reptile addiction :D

    Haha, well i hope you know what you are getting yourself into. People either love it or hate it.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ch^10 View Post
    I have a B.S. and an M.S. in Mechanical Engineering and am currently about 1/2 way done with my Ph.D. in Mechanical/Biomechanical Engineering. My dissertation requires the use of multiple programming languages.

    I have a lot of experience with Mathematica and MATLAB, and some with HTML, C/C++, and Objective C (iPhone app development). I am currently developing in CUDA C, which is very similar to C and enables GPU computing (parallel processing).

    My master's thesis involved the development and characterization of novel ceramic/glass materials, so programming for me is a bit of a thorn in the foot. It is slowly growing on me though after 4 years of code development...

    Wow that sounds really interesting. That's cool that you are using programming in that way. I'm glad your thorn is getting a little less painful ;)
  • 11-10-2011, 04:51 PM
    Ezekiel285
    Re: Any Programmers/Developers?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kinra View Post
    I wouldn't get your hopes up too high of landing a $100/hour job, especially with just an associates degree. Don't get me wrong, database admins make good money, but you won't get a $100/hour job as soon as you finish school. You might make more working as a consultant than as a full time employee, but work isn't always steady when you do that. That's just my :twocents:.

    You might want to look into the classes you are going to be taking. My best guess is that they are going to be teaching you SQL at some point since the most common database systems are Oracle and Microsoft SQL Sever and both of with use a version of SQL.

    X2
    Also HTML is more like web "scripting", its only kinda a language, you most likely won't do too much of that for databases. HTML just makes websites look the way they do.
  • 11-10-2011, 04:58 PM
    evan385
    Re: Any Programmers/Developers?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kinra View Post
    I wouldn't get your hopes up too high of landing a $100/hour job, especially with just an associates degree. Don't get me wrong, database admins make good money, but you won't get a $100/hour job as soon as you finish school. You might make more working as a consultant than as a full time employee, but work isn't always steady when you do that. That's just my :twocents:.

    You might want to look into the classes you are going to be taking. My best guess is that they are going to be teaching you SQL at some point since the most common database systems are Oracle and Microsoft SQL Sever and both of with use a version of SQL.

    I don't mean right away, I mean after a few years of experience. And i'll probably transfer to a four year college after I get my associates :) I'd much rather study herpetology and will most likely go back to school for that, but I need something to fall back on.
  • 11-11-2011, 05:04 AM
    SquamishSerpents
    i've toyed with python too. the ball variety, and the human trouser snake kind.

    HAH.

    but really. i would love to learn something like this. web languages fascinate me even though i am really, really lost when i view coding
  • 11-11-2011, 03:37 PM
    Ezekiel285
    Re: Any Programmers/Developers?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SquamishSerpents View Post
    i've toyed with python too. the ball variety, and the human trouser snake kind.

    HAH.

    but really. i would love to learn something like this. web languages fascinate me even though i am really, really lost when i view coding

    LOL :rofl:

    I was really lost at first too, you just have to practice a lot and do stuff on your own, that's the best way to learn. If you want to learn Java for instance, i would look up online tutorials and start making your own simple programs and progress from there. You catch on fast once you figure out a little bit of whats going on. However now that i know Java more in depth i would say a good book is also necessary because it will teach you things in a better way and also some stuff is hard to find online.
  • 11-15-2011, 05:45 PM
    MasonC2K
    Re: Any Programmers/Developers?
    I have a BS in Comp Sci from 99 and an MS in Applied Comp Sci from 01.

    In a past life I was a web developer specializing in database driven ASP.Net.

    But for the last 9 years I've been doing mostly C# windows forms and server components.

    My advice is to find a professor you click with and buddy up with him. I served as a professor's assistant for 3 years and got lots of hands on that most normal students didn't get. Failing that, try to get an internship somewhere.

    When the real world hits, try and stick to small IT shops if you can. Large shops have way too many policies and procedures that you end up doing more "paperwork" activities than actually coding.
  • 11-15-2011, 06:07 PM
    Kinra
    Re: Any Programmers/Developers?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MasonC2K View Post
    When the real world hits, try and stick to small IT shops if you can. Large shops have way too many policies and procedures that you end up doing more "paperwork" activities than actually coding.

    I've done both and honestly I prefer the larger companies over small shops/startups. Larger companies are usually more secure and pay better. The small shop I worked in really screwed me over and completely turned me off of them. I like some sense of job security and a nice pay check, even if I have to write lots of documentation. Project planning and design documents are also a major part of being a successful shop. Most places that employ code monkeys don't seem to produce the quality of code I've seen from larger shops with procedures and more often than not the code is harder to read and only 1 or 2 people completely understand what it does and they might not work there any more.

    This is just what I've seen, but I'm also the odd ball developer in that I actually like socializing with people and not hiding in my office all of the time. I don't really fit the typical stereotype. :P
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