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  • 11-09-2011, 09:12 PM
    cecilbturtle
    is there anything going on here?
    Here is Lopi. My local Humane Society found her in an abandoned house. They contacted me and I took her in. She still has some fattening up to do even though she is almost up to 3000 grams in these pics.

    So I SWORE i'd never post a normal bp and ask but I figured it couldnt hurt to see what you all thought. Its her tummy that makes me wonder. So....anything going on here? :oops:

    http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/...rtle59/894.jpg
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  • 11-09-2011, 09:47 PM
    Cendalla
    She looks in good condition for having a rough go. I love that belly but I can't tell that there is anything to it. Good luck with her:)
  • 11-09-2011, 09:53 PM
    cecilbturtle
    thanks! the house was left empty, except for Lopi, for several months. i couldnt even guess how long she went without food or water. she had some stuck shed and eyecaps, she was hungry and really thirsty but she bounced back really fast.
  • 11-09-2011, 09:59 PM
    Alexandra V
    She looks good! I'd say normal, but I agree, her belly is really cool :) I haven't seen any morphs with bellies like that though.
  • 11-09-2011, 10:50 PM
    ravenx99
    That's how "morphs" get started... you find one with what looks like it might be a mutation and you attempt to reproduce it, if it reproduces, you've got a "morph".

    I find it odd that people check their Catalog of Official Known Morphs and say, "that's just an odd-looking normal". :)

    Where do we think the "accepted" morphs come from? Some breeder that recognizes that this odd-looking normal could be a mutation and plays around with breeding it to see what happens.

    (Whether the buying public thinks it's a mutation worth paying money for is a different story, of course.)
  • 11-09-2011, 10:54 PM
    RyanT
    Completely normal, but if she's already that big and you put some weight on her, she'll make a great normal breeder eventually. Big clutches. Healthy, huge females are impressive whether they carry mutated genes or not.
  • 11-09-2011, 11:12 PM
    mues155
    im diggin her belly too!
    She looks like she could be a great breeder!
    A good possible dinker if you can do anything with that.
  • 11-09-2011, 11:43 PM
    heathers*bps
    Her belly is definitely cool! She would make an awesome dinker project :gj:
  • 11-10-2011, 01:35 AM
    devildog_dk
    2nd the dinker notion, with that belly and her pattern would be cool to try and see if there's something there.
  • 11-13-2011, 06:07 AM
    cecilbturtle
    any suggestions as to what i should breed her to?
  • 11-13-2011, 03:03 PM
    Jessica Loesch
    I would breed her to anything dominant/codominant and breed a baby back to her.
  • 11-13-2011, 06:41 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    Nothing jumps out at me, but that is a pretty neat belly!
  • 11-19-2011, 05:56 PM
    Atherosdragon
    looks like a good normal glad to hear she's recovered and healthy
  • 11-24-2011, 02:41 PM
    Bruce Whitehead
    When I have an odd girl I breed her to dom or codom, then hold back a boy that displays similar identifiable markers to mom. Then wait... :)

    I would breed her to a dark morph and at least selective breed this first generation.

    Bruce

    Ps: I have a few abandoned house snakes in my collection too. I have a very soft spot for each one. My boa was found with his dead sister locked in a bathroom.
  • 11-24-2011, 02:48 PM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: is there anything going on here?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ravenx99 View Post
    That's how "morphs" get started... you find one with what looks like it might be a mutation and you attempt to reproduce it, if it reproduces, you've got a "morph".

    I find it odd that people check their Catalog of Official Known Morphs and say, "that's just an odd-looking normal". :)

    Where do we think the "accepted" morphs come from? Some breeder that recognizes that this odd-looking normal could be a mutation and plays around with breeding it to see what happens.

    (Whether the buying public thinks it's a mutation worth paying money for is a different story, of course.)

    Most morphs are started by breeders buying from importers in Africa. Out of all of the people with "dinkers", very few actually turn out to be a morphs.
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