Stressed by head wobble

Hi all,
I got a beautiful Bumble Bee ball about a month ago. She has eaten once since she has been here but she has refused about four feedings. Now the last two times I tried she strikes constricts then when she goes to eat it she begins this crazy head wobble and weaving. She has even started twisting her head around. Then she leaves the mouse and shows no interest. I know spiders can have the wobble but does this sound really bad?
The breeder said she ate three times before shipping. I am not sure what to do.... This is my girl!

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All spiders wobble most morphs that have some spider in them do as well. Your description sounds moderate. I have seen ones corkscrew most of the time really bad wobbly things and then some like mine that wobble only during feedings and then not too badly mine seems to get hyper excited during feeding so the window of opportunity closes quickly some times. It isn't abnormal check you husbandry and just keep trying. She is very beautiful.

It does sound like a moderate wobble. My only thought is she might just be defensive striking.
Though I have seen spiders with moderate wobs take just a little longer figuring out how to take their food. If she can successfully eat I don't think you'll have any issues. What's The setup?
Handling?
Feeding live/ft?


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you should read through this:

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...d-this-normall

I have a bee that started off the same way, but it didn't take her long to come around and feed for me. She still has the wobble but it only shows when she is about to strike or strikes and misses. Then she spins like a top.

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Originally Posted by Homegrownscales

It does sound like a moderate wobble. My only thought is she might just be defensive striking.
Though I have seen spiders with moderate wobs take just a little longer figuring out how to take their food. If she can successfully eat I don't think you'll have any issues. What's The setup?
Handling?
Feeding live/ft?

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Thanks for the replys!
She is in a 20L glass tank
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I know the pic is not good but she has a hide, water, a branch, foliage
her tank is between 80-90 f
her humidity is about 60-70

feeding f/t

dont handle the day of feedings

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Originally Posted by kitedemon

A She is very beautiful.

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Thanks! I think so :)

Thank you I read through it but did not see much in there about the specific problem I am having with her. The strange head twisting and then she act disoriented. Then she looses all interest in the prey.....

What are you using for heat? How are you regulating it? And where are you measuring temps from?
How are you preparing your ft? The one meal she ate was that live or ft?

I am also thinking the ft might be a touch too cold. So she's either getting shocked when she bites it and its too cold or it cools down too fast and she's losing it.
Normally ft items should be heated to about 100.f. This is the normal temp or a live rat.


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In Case this is a stress related defensive strike I would add another of the same hides and cover 3 of the sides with black contact paper.


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She is a really gorgeous snake. Best of luck, I'm sure you two will figure it out. :gj:

i have a killerbee with a bad wobble she sumtimes will take 20 mins to find the head of the rat after constricting it or eat it backwards and shell even sometimes just leave it and ill have to hit it with the blow dryer again and normally the second time she bites and constricts she eats it.

i see one problem u have...u just have one hide u should have one on the cool side and one on the hot side..and maybe try blacken out the sides and back of the tank that helped me with one of my own problem eaters..

Thanks for the advice, I left her prey from last night in the tank with her after presenting it to her three times. She bit and constricted three times. And yet the mouse is still in there this morning. ugh

I am working on making a water hide for her, a blacked out rubbermaid shoebox. with a few openings.
I think I may contact the breeder about it soon, I may even try live if I have to.
How long can a two month old go without food????

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Thanks for the advice, I left her prey from last night in the tank with her after presenting it to her three times. She bit and constricted three times. And yet the mouse is still in there this morning. ugh

I am working on making a water hide for her, a blacked out rubbermaid shoebox. with a few openings.
I think I may contact the breeder about it soon, I may even try live if I have to.
How long can a two month old go without food????

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How big is the mouse ... the shoebox should only have one way in and out not so many openings that stresses them out...they like to feel secure so i would not go to big with the shoebox...and if u have the phone number to the guy u bought her from ask what he was feeding and what size prey and how did he feed her..he won't mind the phone call he will be more than happy to help...

Figured out her issue..... I was feeding her hoppers....she wanted fuzzies. She has eaten everything i have given her since. She has downed a bunch of fuzzies. Guess she just wanted a smaller meal! Thanks for the help!

You said you were feeding mice, correct? Mouse fuzzies are extremely small for any ball python. Even hoppers are a very small meal. How many are you feeding her at a time and how much does she weigh?

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Originally Posted by AK907

You said you were feeding mice, correct? Mouse fuzzies are extremely small for any ball python. Even hoppers are a very small meal. How many are you feeding her at a time and how much does she weigh?

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I know they are small but she wont eat anything bigger..... She strikes and constricts and then does not eat it..... I feed her a few fuzzies a week.

Have you tried african soft furs?

My bee has the same wobble and like it is mentioned above, Spiders do have wobble. But a Bee is a morph of a spider so same gene It is high likely for the wobble to be passed.