a question about shipping / delays

So, Fed ex says "we do not ship live animals" - and we all know they do - my question is - Are these animals being shipped legally. What made me think about this was today when my shipment did not arrive I called Fed Ex and found out it was in a city 5 hours away - same state - that has a zip code one digit different than mine - obviously a mistake either made by the shipper or Fed Ex. So, what does anyone know about this general subject. Do they know what they are shipping or not and more importantly, what are the chances that an extra 24 hours in the box killed my animal - Thanks for any input

Fedex does ship live animals. But you have to be a verified shipper and jump through their ropes. Send them a test package so they can inspect it and so on. But its so much easier to ship through shipyourreptiles.com cause they are verified and you ship through them. Its super easy. As long as temps arent really low where your animal is sleepin tonight and the shipper should have put a heat pack in their you should be fine

They are told to say they dont ship animals so that every John Doe dont go out shipping animals.

If they want to ship them properly they will search and go through the proper steps in doing so.

With Temps in your area being held at the hub, the snake will be fine for another night. The shipper should of been on the phone INSTANTLY telling them what was in the box so they can put it in safe place for the night at room temp or have it delivered later in the day.

All My boxes are Labeled whats in them via a premade stamp. This allows them to know whats in it and where the package should go on planes and in hubs.

my packages typically are stamped with live harmless reptile stickers - i did contact the shipper - i was thinking it was really his responsibility to handle the problem with fedex - i too think he will be ok - just wanted other's opinions and i was really curious if that was just what the lady was supposed to say or if they really did not know they were shipping reptiles

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

All My boxes are Labeled whats in them via a premade stamp. This allows them to know whats in it and where the package should go on planes and in hubs.

---

Can you elaborate on this please

On the box i stamp in red Live harmless Reptile and in Blue on the Shipping Label or Next to it i stamp Python Regius Qty:.


This is required by law. And anyone that says otherwise i have papers from F&W about a box i didnt mark 100%. If someone ships you a snake and its NOT labeled your both at fault

Yes they do, in order to ship Reptiles with Fedex you have to be certified with them.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by robeyeshua

my packages typically are stamped with live harmless reptile stickers - i did contact the shipper - i was thinking it was really his responsibility to handle the problem with fedex - i too think he will be ok - just wanted other's opinions and i was really curious if that was just what the lady was supposed to say or if they really did not know they were shipping reptiles

---

Should have more than just Live harmless reptile on it..

But yes the shipper should of at least checked tracking, and made a call to be sure box was being set aside.

ok, thought there was something else you added to outside of box.

This is a box i have all ready for a shipment tomorrow to go out..

http://i56.tinypic.com/2qmozgg.jpg

Certain chain type mailbox stores that ship fedex dont allow reptiles in their facilities and they can say what they want but fed ex hubs and fed ex operated facilities will ahip reptiles as long as you are verified or you ship through shipyourreptiles.com. as far as fish and wildlife is concerned i have been told a number of different things. I have been told you have to mark and i have also been told you dont. I do know when shipping delta dash with venomous it has to be marked,sealed, and inspected. At least it did when i used to deal in hots. But that has been awhile.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by snake lab

Certain chain type mailbox stores that ship fedex dont allow reptiles in their facilities and they can say what they want but fed ex hubs and fed ex operated facilities will ahip reptiles as long as you are verified or you ship through shipyourreptiles.com. as far as fish and wildlife is concerned i have been told a number of different things. I have been told you have to mark and i have also been told you dont. I do know when shipping delta dash with venomous it has to be marked,sealed, and inspected. At least it did when i used to deal in hots. But that has been awhile.

---

Its in the lacey act all wildlife must be properly marked on outside of box. This is beyond what fedex knows. The letter i got which is a standard letter has many things on it about, destroying said packaged animals, Fines, jail and so on. Its not a state to state thing.


Heres the letter i got. I called them to verify what was going on. They didnt know it was a python just figured due to company name. The customer said box was never inspected as zipties were never touched. The box did have Python Regius on it just not Live harmless reptile on it.

Be sure to zoom in
http://i53.tinypic.com/119ow75.jpg

i'm not a shipper, just a buyer - i was just commenting on what the boxes looked like that i had received in past - just like the one in rich's post - i think the seller just blew the zip code

To ship FedEx, you must be certified. You get certified by speaking to your rep and sending in a test package. After some paperwork, they certify you.

No, a 24 hour delay should not kill the snake unless of extreme weather.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

Its in the lacey act all wildlife must be properly marked on outside of box. This is beyond what fedex knows. The letter i got which is a standard letter has many things on it about, destroying said packaged animals, Fines, jail and so on. Its not a state to state thing.


Heres the letter i got. I called them to verify what was going on. They didnt know it was a python just figured due to company name. The customer said box was never inspected as zipties were never touched. The box did have Python Regius on it just not Live harmless reptile on it.

Be sure to zoom in
http://i53.tinypic.com/119ow75.jpg

---

Thanks for sharing that and the pic with the box you prepped. I wasn't aware of those stipulations from the Feds. I don't breed mine at the moment but as I plan to in the near future, that's great info to know. Thanks for sharing and enlightening my ignorant self, lol! :D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by robeyeshua

So, Fed ex says "we do not ship live animals"

---

Actually Fedex does ship live reptiles. It can be done either by an individual who is Fedex certified or an individual that uses SYR

Now as far as the delay does it happen? Yes it does sometimes for various reasons.

At this point you need to contact the shipper so he get on the problem and help you locate the package for you to intercept it or pick it up at the location.

he arrived today alive - lethargic, moreso than normal, but alive - no tongue flicking - put him straightin his tub and he crawled in warm side hide - hope he makes it - he is a gorgeous 2011 male albino - will attach pics later today - thx again to all

I need to get me some stamps made! That's a good idea. I don't ship a lot so I've been just writing it on the shipping label I print out. But the stamps look professional. :D

I also think a lot of FedEx employees have NO CLUE they ship snakes... I had a hold at pickup package that they almost sent back once the receiver mentioned it had a snake in the box... even though I had it marked properly... and I am certified... seems they don't know how to check.

Grrrr...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by robeyeshua

he arrived today alive - lethargic, moreso than normal, but alive - no tongue flicking - put him straightin his tub and he crawled in warm side hide - hope he makes it - he is a gorgeous 2011 male albino - will attach pics later today - thx again to all

---

I am sure he'll be fine! Glad he made it to ya!!

Apparently ball pythons are "unwanted pests" in Kalifornia.

I'm glad he's okay. Let him alone for 3 or 4 days at least. And if he doesn't eat in the next two weeks, take him to a herp vet and spend the extra money on a fecal test--- I find animals that are stressed during shipping are more likely to have intestinal flagellate flare-ups a couple weeks later.

california has their own crazy animal laws and i and a few friends have had issues shipping into california. its definitely a state issue with them.
adam jeffery