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  • 06-30-2011, 11:07 PM
    sookieball
    How to care for eggs after you cut them
    Haha that is the question....

    So I'm cutting my clutch on Saturday
    But I also want to know how to care for them properly after cutting...
    I know you gotta wath them and make sure they don't dry out
    By adding bottled water just not to much to not drown them...


    But what else? How do you pro breeders do it?

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  • 06-30-2011, 11:12 PM
    llovelace
    Clean off any gunk as it forms, add water as needed until they come out. What day are they at?
  • 06-30-2011, 11:12 PM
    Jason Bowden
    Re: How to care for eggs after you cut them
    What temp did you incubate at and what day are you on.

    I usually wait to cut until at least one baby pips.

    If you cut them, just leave them in the incubator. Let the babies crawl out the egg by them selves.(may take several days depending if they are even close to coming out)

    I've never added anything/water to my cut eggs.
  • 06-30-2011, 11:18 PM
    Jason Bowden
    Re: How to care for eggs after you cut them
    I asked for temp and day because I incubated at 87 degrees this year and my babies didn't pip until day 72. I'd let one of the babies pip first.
  • 06-30-2011, 11:23 PM
    sookieball
    Well their temps were kept between 87.8-89.9 but the eggs were in a pile as momma put them that way and they stuck together that way.
    And 4 were at the bottom and 3 on top... The three on top were closest to the heat.
    Those three dimpled on day 34.
    And 1 more dimpled at day 40
    And 1 more just started dimpling 2 days ago.
    And 2 are still plump.
    Saturday is day 52 and I planned on cutting the 2 that dimpled first ONLY. And wait for the others to pipp or till day 56 ...

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  • 06-30-2011, 11:25 PM
    sookieball
    Oh I forgot to mention...

    This is my first clutch and I'm using the zoomed reptibator and its set to 92 and the therm in side the container of the eggs is reading 89.9 most of the time. With a couple days of socal heat they peaked 90.2

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  • 06-30-2011, 11:46 PM
    LadyOhh
    Honestly, I wouldn't cut at all. If this is your first clutch, I'd let it go naturally so that you can see how it works.
  • 06-30-2011, 11:59 PM
    sookieball
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    Honestly, I wouldn't cut at all. If this is your first clutch, I'd let it go naturally so that you can see how it works.

    But I'm so impatient! LOL
    I do feel that they will be super tiny...
    They were a 7 egg clutch
    And the female weighed 1789 right before she laid.
    I forgot to weigh the clutch when they were laid.
    But her weight after lay was 1162...
    I was talking to beckys son at WF reptiles and he said not to worry because they really cram them selves pretty tightly into the egg...

    Just think they will be super small and too weak to pipp
  • 07-01-2011, 12:53 AM
    LadyOhh
    Yeah, if you don't know what you are doing, you CAN cut a vein and kill the baby.

    I really don't think its worth it unless you have someone there with you that knows what they are doing.
  • 07-01-2011, 01:24 AM
    sookieball
    Well I have a friend who does and they have helped me the whole way.
    I just always look to the opinions of the forum for a more solid advice.
    I'm really worried about the size of one of the hatchlings especially
    Because it dimpled so soon in the process... And its very lively in the egg and SOOOOOOOO SMALL.
    I'm worried it won't be able to pipp or it will just be a runt and problematic anyways.
    I don't want to lose any BECAUSE its ny first clutch and really I'm so spectacularly worried about this little one. It's abut the thickness of a sharpie and looks to be VERY small.

    I'm worried because I remember a thread abu the 15 gram bumble bee who thankfully made it and is doing well last I read.. I feel this lill guy will be that kind of story.

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  • 07-01-2011, 02:32 AM
    Quiet Tempest
    I know you're anxious to see what you've got in the eggs but unless there is some indication that something is wrong (i.e. veins deteriorating and/or no movement when candling, fungal growth, no pipping days after siblings have pipped, etc.) I wouldn't cut. You said yourself that the little one is "lively" in the egg. That would indicate to me that it's healthy and should have no trouble pipping and emerging on its own. If it were me, I would let them all pip on their own. I'm one of those odd balls that consider pipping to be an important milestone that shouldn't be bypassed just because of impatience, though. :P
  • 07-01-2011, 02:38 AM
    sookieball
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Quiet Tempest View Post
    I know you're anxious to see what you've got in the eggs but unless there is some indication that something is wrong (i.e. veins deteriorating and/or no movement when candling, fungal growth, no pipping days after siblings have pipped, etc.) I wouldn't cut. You said yourself that the little one is "lively" in the egg. That would indicate to me that it's healthy and should have no trouble pipping and emerging on its own. If it were me, I would let them all pip on their own. I'm one of those odd balls that consider pipping to be an important milestone that shouldn't be bypassed just because of impatience, though. :P

    Because you and heather have helped me on so many of my posts
    I shall wait to pipp.
    I promise its not impatience that's making me want to cut.
    But this is true.
    Livelyness does indicate health.
    And true. Pipping in birds is essential as well because it means and makes the birds neck capable of something something... I don't remember.
    But I'm sure the same rule applies slihtly in BP's as well.
    Thanx! I'll post pics soon of the first little dudes to pipp... Hopefully soon!

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  • 07-01-2011, 05:02 AM
    Xan Powers
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    Yeah, if you don't know what you are doing, you CAN cut a vein and kill the baby.

    I really don't think its worth it unless you have someone there with you that knows what they are doing.

    from my understanding cutting any veins at that point is not going to kill the snake by any means. now cutting the animal yes, but a little blood in the amnionic fluid is nothing to worry about. cutting a vein would only create a bloody mess.

    correct me if I'm wrong though.


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  • 07-01-2011, 09:04 AM
    J.Vandegrift
    I definitely would not cut if your incubator fluctuated so much in temp. You really have no way of knowing how much longer they have before they are due to hatch. Also, you don't have to add water to the eggs after you cut them.
  • 07-01-2011, 11:55 AM
    dr del
    Re: How to care for eggs after you cut them
    Hi,

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Xan Powers View Post
    from my understanding cutting any veins at that point is not going to kill the snake by any means. now cutting the animal yes, but a little blood in the amnionic fluid is nothing to worry about. cutting a vein would only create a bloody mess.

    correct me if I'm wrong though.


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    Cutting a small minor vein isn't generally a problem.

    Cutting the larger ones however certainly could be. Cutting more than one definately would be a bad idea.

    That blood is the animals blood - bigger veins take longer to close up and lose blood faster.

    They are small enough for blood loss to be a major problem if you just hack away at the egg without paying enough attention.

    I always candle the eggs first and draw the larger veins on the shell with a dull pencil or mark out an area with very few major veins so I can cut with a fair amount of reassurance. I still make a pigs ear of it but at least it is just ugly instead of dangerous. ;)


    dr del
  • 07-01-2011, 12:25 PM
    Xan Powers
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,



    Cutting a small minor vein isn't generally a problem.

    Cutting the larger ones however certainly could be. Cutting more than one definately would be a bad idea.

    That blood is the animals blood - bigger veins take longer to close up and lose blood faster.

    They are small enough for blood loss to be a major problem if you just hack away at the egg without paying enough attention.

    I always candle the eggs first and draw the larger veins on the shell with a dull pencil or mark out an area with very few major veins so I can cut with a fair amount of reassurance. I still make a pigs ear of it but at least it is just ugly instead of dangerous. ;)


    dr del

    ah I see I see. i appreciate it man!


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  • 07-01-2011, 03:52 PM
    Quiet Tempest
    Re: How to care for eggs after you cut them
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sookieball View Post
    Because you and heather have helped me on so many of my posts
    I shall wait to pipp.
    I promise its not impatience that's making me want to cut.
    But this is true.
    Livelyness does indicate health.
    And true. Pipping in birds is essential as well because it means and makes the birds neck capable of something something... I don't remember.
    But I'm sure the same rule applies slihtly in BP's as well.
    Thanx! I'll post pics soon of the first little dudes to pipp... Hopefully soon!

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    I'm looking forward to seeing what you get regardless of how it gets here. ;)
  • 07-01-2011, 08:58 PM
    sookieball
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Quiet Tempest View Post
    I'm looking forward to seeing what you get regardless of how it gets here. ;)

    Don't worry ill be posting the video and pix as soon as I see the first one pipp!

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