Champagne ringer on eggs...

I woke up to this today. I'm real excited about this clutch, it will be a long 58 days...

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...ngeroneggs.jpg

WOW!! Talk about an extreme ringer...

Gorgeous girl, and good luck with the clutch! :gj:

holy wow.. who did you pair this beauty with??

Congrats Dave. I think between this girl and that fire you have some ridiculous ringers. Best of luck on the clutch man!

Congrats i normally don't care for champagnes but WOW she is hot. Good luck hope you hit great odds.

awesome. cant wait to see the babies

Awesome! I remember when you got her :gj:

Congrats and good luck, the countdown starts....

Man she almost looks pied! Sweet :bow: What was the pairing?

Thanks everyone!!

She was bred to a fire ringer that came from a clutch where all the fires were ringers...

Only 57 days to go!

Wait a min.. I always thought that snake was a super cinny pied or something?? That's a RINGER??? huh?

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Originally Posted by cdavidson9

Wait a min.. I always thought that snake was a super cinny pied or something?? That's a RINGER??? huh?

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It's "just" a champagne...it was produced from a champ x normal breeding.

great looking snake, cant wait to see what the off spring look like

Dave how did this clutch turn out?

Wow!!!!!cant wait to see the off spring to this pair:)

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Originally Posted by Monster Dodge

Dave how did this clutch turn out?

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The results were beyond my expectations, here are a bunch of photos...

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...13ERChamps.jpg

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...ireERChamp.jpg

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...ampringer3.jpg

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...ampringer4.jpg

I don't think "ringer" is an accurate term for what we're seeing there. :P Maybe a new pied gene? Is it remotely possible that the founding stock were het pieds and no one realized it? (We've seen that happen a number of times with albino and ghost morphs)

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I woke up to this today. I'm real excited about this clutch, it will be a long 58 days...

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...ngeroneggs.jpg

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What an awesome girl !

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Wait a min.. I always thought that snake was a super cinny pied or something?? That's a RINGER??? huh?

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Super cinny pied is panda pied. Black pastel x black pastel x pied, black pastel x cinnamon x pied, cinnamon x cinnamon x pied are all panda pied.

Judy, a couple of people have suggested that but both snakes came from different breeders and they've both produced subsequent clutches without producing similar animals. The male I used was a fire that was a ringer as well. Champagnes seem to throw ringers, mom is just an extreme example. Also, the fire champagne I produced last year from different parents was a ringer as well. That's why I thought this breeding might give me good results...

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...01/ringers.jpg

You're sure these are not pied?

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Originally Posted by evan385

You're sure these are not pied?

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99% sure but I guess there is always a chance, see my prior post.

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That's why I thought this breeding might give me good results...

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LOL...well, no matter what is going on, you weren't wrong about that!!

I still can't help but wonder if there's some new form of piebaldism (just making up new words as I go along! :P ) going on. Regardless, though, they're ALL gorgeous! Congrats!

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Originally Posted by Dave Green

99% sure but I guess there is always a chance, see my prior post.

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I've never seen a ringer so I didn't know they could look so much like a pied.

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LOL...well, no matter what is going on, you weren't wrong about that!!

I still can't help but wonder if there's some new form of piebaldism (just making up new words as I go along! :P ) going on. Regardless, though, they're ALL gorgeous! Congrats!

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Thanks, future breedings should help clear things up. All four of the "ringers" are females so I still need a male to get things really going.

I've seen some champagnes with pretty neat ringers that came from breedings without ringer parents. Seems like lots of paradox and ringer champagnes are popping up, fun stuff!

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Originally Posted by evan385

I've never seen a ringer so I didn't know they could look so much like a pied.

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Most ringers look like the father and aren't nearly as extreme as mom. That's why I called her an extreme ringer, plus my lack of creativity. :D

Wow Dave, just wow....

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...ireERChamp.jpg