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Hey guys,im 16 years old and i drive a moped to school.I have 1 ball python.
But im intrested in more herps i paid alot for my ball python setup.I pay for every thing since i work at pet smart.and the reptile is in my room.Today this woman told me she would would give me here beardie of six months and his enclosure for free!! My dad wont even listen and shuts be down im thinking of hiding him in my room till he lets me talk him into it but ill be paying for every thing and they wont even know ill have it.The woman said she was going to release it into the wild if i dont get it today since shes moving.

I wouldn't advised "hiding" it from your parents, because that's a very quick way to lose their trust in you. You can, however, find a better alternative for her than releasing into the wild. There are plenty of reptile and pet shops that would gladly take in a homeless beardie. Think before you do things...it'll help you in the long run. Maybe if your parents see how you helped this woman rehome her reptile WITHOUT doing things behind their back, they may reconsider.

Irritating your dad may not be the best way to get him to allow you to have more reptiles.

Just because it's free doesn't mean it's good.

Do you even like beardies or are you just momentarily excited by the prospect of another reptile that you don't have to pay to get?

trust isint really a biggie they recently caught me smoking and my liquer stash and a bunch of condoms,and i am really intrested in beardies and have done all the research when i was deciding which to get a ball or a beardie.

And your 16?? Great....can't wait for my son to grow up.....

I agree with LGray23. Don't hide it from your parents. Show them how mature and responsible you are by helping that lady to find a new home, like a petshop, for the bearded dragon. This will earn respect from your parents. I am a father of 2 boys and we are always open and honest with eachother.

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Originally Posted by Ballz R Us

trust isint really a biggie they recently caught me smoking and my liquer stash and a bunch of condoms,and i am really intrested in beardies and have done all the research when i was deciding which to get a ball or a beardie.

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Trust should always be the first issue when it comes to any relationship. Hmmm. You wonder why they won't 'let' you have a beardie. Honestly, their house their rules.

Beardie's are a lot more expensive, and harder to care for than a ball python. Are you ready for this? Special bulbs, a lot of food, and calcium requirements. It takes a lot of responsibility. I'm not trying to discourage you, but maybe you should wait until you have a place of your own.

thanks for all the replies ive decided to hide him in my closet

This is either trolling, or extremely stupid.

You are not going to be able to hide a bearded dragon and keep up the care it needs. You will kill it.

I smell tuna.

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Originally Posted by Ballz R Us

thanks for all the replies ive decided to hide him in my closet

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Why bother coming here for advice if you have no intention of listening or heeding any of it? You don't listen to your parents or care about their wishes or their trust...so why should anyone here bother to take their time and effort to "help" you when help is the last thing you actually want.

At sixteen years old, it's quite obvious you have all the answers already. You know all you need to know, so a site like this is of no use to you. Go do whatever the heck you want, but don't expect much empathy around here if you come back with some sob story about a dying lizard or a dad wanting to throw it out of the house or demanding you get rid of all your pets or any other such nonsense your actions are likely to cause.

My Ball Python is smarter than a 16-year-old. Sorry but your not thinking.

Hi,

I don't know what reptile rehoming or animal rescue organisations you have in Canada but I think you should find out and pass the details onto the woman wanting to dump her animal into certain death - or set the police on her for animal cruelty if she does so.

But beardies need big cages, high temps, good UV sources and eat a lot.

Your cupboard isn't going to cut it.

Sorry, I know it isn't what you want to hear, but your decision is not the right one for either the animal or you.


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This is either a troll or the reason people people don't take herp enthusiasts seriously. Maybe both. Grow up kid. If you can't take responsibility for yourself then you have no business with animals.

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Originally Posted by LGray23

And your 16?? Great....can't wait for my son to grow up.....

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Wish you all the luck in the world:bow::bow::bow:

Now I will take the hook, line, and sinker and run with it.
My son is going on 16 this month, he has several piercings, changes his hair color almost weekly, drinks when I let him and even has a tattoo on his back that I did for him almost 2 years ago.:O
Why?? you ask??
Because he is open and honest with us AND is a good kid overall. BUT he is still a kid and they all do stupid things, how else do we learn? The difference is he doesnt hide anything anymore from us. (he know I will find it or findout about it;)) I was young once and I DID do it all.
How does this play into this?? I NEVER did anything that put anyone or any living thing into harms way except myself and my son know this as well.
The animals we choose to keep as pets now rely on US to cater to their every need!! So you have 2 choices:
1-find another way to save this animal before YOU kill it
2-remove your head from your rectum, put your big boy pants on AND get a place of your own so you can make your own rules:gj:

I knew everything at one time too. It only lasted long enough for my dad to remove his belt. Whoo. I never learned so much about life than in that few seconds.

Just saying.

**mutters obscenity's under her breath**

THIS is why my generation has a bad rep. People just like you, my friend! :colbert:

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Originally Posted by Anya

**mutters obscenity's under her breath**

THIS is why my generation has a bad rep. People just like you, my friend! :colbert:

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Looks like we have a level head here:gj::gj::D

Dude, I own a Beardie and while they are an easy lizard to care for, they need more than just a closet...

Angurius (mine) lives in a 55 gal. aquarium with a sand substrate that I scoop crap from when he "goes" and gets completely replaced every other month, climbing branches (he loves sleeping on them), 100-watt ceramic heat emitter for heat cuz they need the temps to be in the upper-90's F in the basking spot, a UV light that gets replaced yearly (it's due to be replaced the first payday in June), and he even has the freakin' TV in front of the cage to entertain him! ...Seriously, the lizard likes the sounds and pretty colors, especially from Spongebob and American Idol. My dragon is spoiled!!!!:banana:

Anyway, you see where I'm getting at? Lizards, especially diurnal ones like Beardies, don't like being in dark, closed spaces like snakes. To give the reptile the "Rapunzel" treatment (i.e. imprisoning it in a closet) is animal cruelty...and it's "keepers" like you is why its harder for responsible pet owners to have exotics! Bearded Dragons aren't like Ball Pythons; they need special equipment and big space to keep it healthy and happy as well as attention from its owner in order to keep it (for lack of better words) "tame."

If you don't care about the health and well-being of the animal as well as disrespecting you parents just for your own satisfaction then you don't deserve to have pets.

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

Looks like we have a level head here:gj::gj::D

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X2:popcorn:

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Originally Posted by Ballz R Us

trust isint really a biggie they recently caught me smoking and my liquer stash and a bunch of condoms,and i am really intrested in beardies and have done all the research when i was deciding which to get a ball or a beardie.

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The smokes and liqueur isn't exactly great, but if condoms are considered bad, would you or they prefer to get some poor girl your age, in school, no job, not an ADULT yet pregnant? :colbert:

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Originally Posted by Cendalla

This is either a troll or the reason people people don't take herp enthusiasts seriously. Maybe both. Grow up kid. If you can't take responsibility for yourself then you have no business with animals.

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This...

Well, and that lady wanting to dump the beardie.

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Originally Posted by stratus_020202

I knew everything at one time too. It only lasted long enough for my dad to remove his belt. Whoo. I never learned so much about life than in that few seconds.

Just saying.

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The last time my mom threatened to do this, I threatened to hit back with a pocket knife and call the cops.

Spanks are okay, but slapping and hitting and using a belt just isn't. This kid might need some sense knocked into him, but possible jail time and fines for animal cruelty would be a better option, not deep bruises or busted fingers (defending) or busted face from a belt or physical punishment.

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Originally Posted by Cendalla

X2:popcorn:

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look kid, if your going to have a breaded dragon, it needs uvb lights, heat lamps and proper care! what are you gonna do leave it in a 10 gal tank all its life!? I should punch you in the face sir, get it to a better home befor you kill the little guy.:rage::colbert:

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Originally Posted by Shenzi Sixaxis

The last time my mom threatened to do this, I threatened to hit back with a pocket knife and call the cops.

Spanks are okay, but slapping and hitting and using a belt just isn't. This kid might need some sense knocked into him, but possible jail time and fines for animal cruelty would be a better option, not deep bruises or busted fingers (defending) or busted face from a belt or physical punishment.

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AND THIS IS the problem with parents and kids now. No discipline at all and then the people that over do it and the ones that dont think its right call the cops:mad: If people raised their children like they did 30 years ago we might not have all these problems. I am a FIRM believer that if you children lack self control in public, the parent should be the one to suffer for lack of TRAINING on their part. And yes, I am the guy that will jump on you in public and embarrass YOU because of your child:gj::gj:

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Originally Posted by Ballz R Us

trust isint really a biggie they recently caught me smoking and my liquer stash and a bunch of condoms

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The best way to re earn your parents trust is not to deceive them more. Don't you care if your parents trust you or not? This is a bad idea all around.

There are probably issues you haven't even thought of yet. Like guilt. You will have to lie and hide this from your parents from now until you move out. It may seem like a small lie but in reality it will probably effect you more than a small lie. You will always have to be diligent to hide your lizard. After a while, keeping up a lie will really drain you.

When you do move out, what happens then? What if you go off to school and you can't keep a 55 gallon aquarium in your dorm? What if your parents find out and as a punishment make you get rid of your python and your beardie?

If you aren't trolling and you really have accepted the lizard my advice is to find a good home for it as soon as possible. Someone that doesn't have to hide it in a closet like contraband. After that I suggest you get your priorities straight. Having a good relationship with your folks is a lot more important than getting a free lizard.

LOL and I just thought of this....if they found your drugs, alcohol, and condoms....what makes you think they won't find a lizard in your closet?? LOL

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Originally Posted by LGray23

LOL and I just thought of this....if they found your drugs, alcohol, and condoms....what makes you think they won't find a lizard in your closet?? LOL

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.....that is an excellent point.

The last time my mom threatened to do this, I threatened to hit back with a pocket knife and call the cops.

Spanks are okay, but slapping and hitting and using a belt just isn't. This kid might need some sense knocked into him, but possible jail time and fines for animal cruelty would be a better option, not deep bruises or busted fingers (defending) or busted face from a belt or physical punishment.[/QUOTE]

I really don't understand today...... I don't believe in child abuse in any way. I don't believe in a father hitting a son or a mother slapping her daughter . I work as a paramedic as well as Scott and I've went on the calls of child abuse and have takin kids that are vegetables due to shakin baby syndrome.I took a 16 month old baby with multiple fractures ( new and old fractures). Kids with burns from hot water, welts from cords....I have seen things I wish I could forget. I can handle the blood and gore of this job, but kids........
But I don't believe in the whole you can't discipline your kid because it's child abuse. When I was a kid if I smarted off to my mother I got the belt. If I cussed in front of her i got the belt . You see the parents that have kids that don't listen , do what ever they want ect, and their excuse is they don't use discipline because it's child abuse. I'm only 23 but any one older than me i can pretty much say it's safe to assume that they were raised the same as me. I had chores to do, I raised sheep for 4-H and I did all the farm work and it was to be done before I got to go out with friends. If it didnt get done well I didn't go. In no way was I abused! If that's considered abuse than wow!!!!! Not saying your wrong at all. I agree no kid should ever be hit, or punched. That is abuse but spanking your kid is not. Not in my eyes any way. The belt thing... Not sure my view on it. I look back and think its wasnt that bad but not sure if id use it on my children. Every one has their own views and that's cool.
I'm not at all downing your parenting so please don't think that was my point in this post. I was just putting in my 2 cents. Lol

I think our point to the OP has been made as well as it can be made...especially to someone who is so unlikely to actually listen or care what they are reading anyhow.

I think it's time to close this one down before it turns into a "let's jump on the guy just because we can" or before it spirals down the rabbit trail of parenting styles. ;)

MAYbe he'll read it. Maybe something will sink in. And if he ever wishes to respond to this thread, he need only shoot me a PM and I will re-open it for him.