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Bulge in stomach 1 week??

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  • 03-02-2011, 10:32 PM
    bruster
    Bulge in stomach 1 week??
    I noticed this last weekend. she was fed Thursday and Saturday she regurgitated the rat, slightly digested. Today she passed what looked to me some bone like matter but runny. Not sure what to do here.
  • 03-02-2011, 10:39 PM
    Powerspythons
    Re: Bulge in stomach 1 week??
    I'd say take whatever she passed to the vet to see if it's some sort of parasite.
  • 03-02-2011, 10:53 PM
    Thepythonman12
    A vet visit is in order i would say. Do you feed her in the enclosure,if so is she on some sort of loose substrate? This is a really really rough guess but maybe impaction from too much ingested substrate during feeding. They will usually have lumps due to the blockage,regurgitate the food being there is no where for it to fully exit,and lastly the poop a runny/watery half digested poop,that they literally have a hard time passing.

    I may be wrong,just though i give you my thought and hopefully she gets better make sure to keep us updated on how this goes.
  • 03-02-2011, 10:54 PM
    2kdime
    Temps?

    Humidity?

    Frequency of feedings and what are you offering?

    Being bred?
  • 03-02-2011, 10:56 PM
    bruster
    I have newspaper for substrate, im not sure where the nearest vet that deals with reptiles is from me.
  • 03-02-2011, 11:08 PM
    bruster
    Temp 79.6 humidity 58 12day large rat no breeding ever
  • 03-02-2011, 11:13 PM
    2kdime
    How big is the snake?

    How often are you feeding?
  • 03-02-2011, 11:28 PM
    bruster
  • 03-02-2011, 11:46 PM
    ryan427
    Re: Bulge in stomach 1 week??
    Quote:
    did you handel the snake after feeding ?
  • 03-02-2011, 11:47 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    That is not normal. There is an obstruction and it's preventing the snake from processing food. I would really take it to the vet. Maybe an abscess or something but it really needs to be looked at.
  • 03-03-2011, 01:27 AM
    aahmn
    Re: Bulge in stomach 1 week??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents View Post
    That is not normal. There is an obstruction and it's preventing the snake from processing food. I would really take it to the vet. Maybe an abscess or something but it really needs to be looked at.

    Agreed. Something's blocking her up... and the rest of her upper body looks quite thin. I've had a blood get a blockage from a buildup of urates, but it was lower down (and my fault for housing her in a bad temporary setup some years back). I don't always jump to tell people to go to the vet, especially if there isn't a knowledgeable reptile vet available, but I would agree about this case.
  • 03-03-2011, 07:15 AM
    2kdime
    Have you tried soaking the snake for a few hours?

    Thats an obstruction

    How often are you offering fresh water?
  • 03-03-2011, 10:09 AM
    bruster
    I don't handle her after feeding for 5 days
    I've tried soaking in the past and she never would pass anything
    Water is changed every other day

    I do know a local breeder here that breeds balls and boas, I'm gonna try and contact him today and see where he suggests to take her. I'm not sure if he is on the forums here.
  • 03-13-2011, 12:13 PM
    bruster
    Got her to a vet last saturday, and he thinks that it is something she hasn't fully digested. Told me to soak her in warm water and gently massage the area. Now she is still the same and has lost some weight and does not move around more than she needs to. Going to try and find another vet to go to.
  • 03-13-2011, 02:25 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Find a different vet. That area needs an ultrasound or X-ray asap.
  • 03-13-2011, 09:29 PM
    bruster
    The vet I talked with wants to avoid doing an surgery, and talked about some type of scope and another kind of xray, but as i said he doesn't have that type of equipment. Probably gonna be making lots of calls tomorrow and maybe taking a day off work. Wife thinks i a little crazy but oh well.
  • 03-14-2011, 06:57 PM
    bruster
    Ok Just left the vet clinic, drove a little over an hour. He pushed a lot of stool out of her and ran test on it. Said that her stomach was backed up and probably wouldn't have been able to pass the biggest parts without any problems, and gave me antibiotics to inject to help with any infections that may have accumulated inside her.
  • 03-14-2011, 10:59 PM
    2kdime
    Id just double check temps and maybe even raise the humidity up a bit.

    All the while making sure to give nice clean fresh water at least every other day.

    Keeping them too dry seems to be a common factor in instances like this.

    Good luck!
  • 03-15-2011, 12:45 PM
    bruster
    Humidity I have had some issues with I'm going to get her a new hide and add some moss to help with humidity. He also suggested to soak her do half an hour to help with dehydrating.
  • 03-15-2011, 01:22 PM
    2kdime
    Cypress rocks!

    Id soak as long as a couple hours even

    Ive soaked snakes for 2-3 hours at a time.

    A regular soaking program is something you will find some Blood people utilize.
  • 03-15-2011, 09:57 PM
    bruster
    Re: Bulge in stomach 1 week??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    Cypress rocks!

    Id soak as long as a couple hours even

    Ive soaked snakes for 2-3 hours at a time.

    A regular soaking program is something you will find some Blood people utilize.

    Cypress mulch instead? Regular soak like doing it weekly?
  • 03-15-2011, 10:38 PM
    2kdime
    Cypress just makes keeping humidity easier

    Yeah once a week is about right
  • 03-16-2011, 09:49 PM
    bruster
    Thanks, I hope she comes around I've had her for almost 4 years and was hoping to breed her at some point. She is still acting sluggish, but im hoping thats just antibiotics.
    Also the vet said to try and feed her this weekend, I plan on giving her smaller meals for the next few months if she pulls thru.
  • 03-17-2011, 03:21 PM
    2kdime
    I would NOT feed her until it passes
  • 03-17-2011, 03:35 PM
    stratus_020202
    Re: Bulge in stomach 1 week??
    She's a pretty girl. I hope everything turns out ok for you. :gj:
  • 03-17-2011, 08:46 PM
    bruster
    Re: Bulge in stomach 1 week??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stratus_020202 View Post
    She's a pretty girl. I hope everything turns out ok for you. :gj:

    Thanks ill be giving her the second shot of antibiotics tonight
  • 03-19-2011, 09:24 PM
    bruster
    well today was a bad day. Some time this afternoon i found Chubby dead. when i checked on her when i got up she seemed fine even passes some urine. She lost 3 lbs in less than a month. Now I find that my young male i was planning to breed with her when he reached size, has what appears to be eye infections.
  • 03-19-2011, 09:43 PM
    2kdime
    I thought when you said she was becoming lethargic that that may be the case, a death soon.

    I havent seen too many deaths amongst blood people in my short time, but it seems like once they get lethargic, its over.

    Can you stomach up the courage and inquisitiveness to cut her open to see what happened?

    Also post pictures of the males eye....

    Sorry to hear about your loss
  • 03-19-2011, 09:51 PM
    bruster
    Yes my wife actually has some anatomy background, and we discovered that was probably septicemia, there were infected abscesses.
  • 03-19-2011, 09:53 PM
    2kdime
    Was there a blockage of poop/urates as well?

    Or was the swelling from the abscesses?
  • 03-20-2011, 09:20 AM
    bruster
    There was some poop, the abscesses where in front of the poop
  • 03-20-2011, 07:15 PM
    aahmn
    Re: Bulge in stomach 1 week??
    Sorry to hear that. That picture definitely looked bad. Did you take pics from opening her up? I know that sounds a little bad, but I am curious to see what the abscess looked like...
  • 03-20-2011, 10:52 PM
    bruster
    No I didn't there where two of them one was about the size of a lemon and the smaller was about the size of a walnut and filled with pus both being attached to the intestine.

    I'm still wondering where she ingested bacteria to have caused it if ingesting something caused it. She has never had a live meal since I've had her.
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