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  • 02-17-2011, 06:39 PM
    Simple Man
    Purchasing 2 hatchling morphs and a third within a month - advice
    I have about $700 to spend on two 2010 morphs. I was thinking a bumblebee male and a mojave or lesser female for the first two. I was thinking of picking up a pastel female a month or two down the road. I'm doing this from a hobbyist stand point, not a commercial breeder. I don't mind making some money back to add new morphs to the collection though. What would you purchase first within my budget? What would you add in a few months to compliment the first two and provide some diversity and morph possibilities?

    Regards,

    B
  • 02-17-2011, 07:26 PM
    mainbutter
    I'd pick up two females first.. just me though.
  • 02-17-2011, 07:28 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    I (as well) would get two females of your choice because they take longer to mature than the males do. Get your females up on weight and age first then find a fitting male.:gj:
  • 02-17-2011, 07:54 PM
    Adam Chandler
    I would recommend picking up 2 females and saving up for your male. Females take an additional year or two to mature so I'd stock up on females during your first year. When you do get a male I would recommend saving up and getting a triple codom (like a Killer Bee instead of a Bumblebee) over a double codom.

    For first year females I'd recommend getting a Pinstripe if you plan on getting a male with Spider in him, Spinners are awesome. I'd also recommend Lesser as the Lesser morph is awesome to mix into anything.
  • 02-18-2011, 12:55 AM
    Simple Man
    I hadn't thought about getting females but that's a good idea. I triple codom is out of my price range unfortunately. I'd like to spend $600-700 for the first two and another $200 for the third. I have to spend somewhat responsibly :) I'm already spending a boat load on a Herpstat and flexwatt setup that can grow with time. I just like to do things right. Thanks for the input so far!

    Regards,

    B
  • 02-18-2011, 10:43 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Purchasing 2 hatchling morphs and a third within a month - advice
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Simple Man View Post
    I'm already spending a boat load on a Herpstat and flexwatt setup that can grow with time.

    So you buy the girls and put a little away every month, say $25 a week? Then at the end of the year you should have $1300 to drop on a male;)
  • 02-18-2011, 12:39 PM
    rexrem
    With $700 you could get a double morph female then just get a cheaper morph for your second female( $200-pastel or yellow belly). After a year, get a double morph male. You can use him for breeding your 2 females.
  • 02-18-2011, 02:56 PM
    Simple Man
    I forgot to explain but part of the reason I'm trying to get 2 snakes right away is because most of the breeders will give me a really decent break if I pickup 2 or 3 at a time. A hundred or more saved will really help towards the third snake. I'm leaning towards a bumblebee/lemonblast male and a pastel female to start. I will pickup a lesser female within a few months after that. Perhaps I will fork the cash out for a 09 lesser.

    Regards,

    B
  • 02-19-2011, 07:27 PM
    EmberBall
    I would get a Pastel YB female and a Lesser or Mojave female now, depending on which super and which crosses you like (mojave vs lesser). You might even get a free male Pastel or YB or something like that thrown in. It is not a bad idea to have a male that is a year older than the male you plan on breeding to your females, just as a back up. Then, save your money and get the best combo male you can next year. I would get a combo male that produces supers with both morphs. As an example, and I am not saying to get this male, but a Sulfur Mojave male will produce both blue and black eyed Lucies. A Pastel YB will produce a Super Pastel and an Ivory...but, it all boils down to one thing, get what you like to look at.

    Dave
  • 02-19-2011, 09:06 PM
    Simple Man
    That's definately something to chew on. I hadn't really thought about yellow bellies. I just looked up Sulfur Mojave but they are waaaaaaay out of my price range but damn they look great! :) Good thoughts though and I now have an even tougher decision to make... LOL. I was hoping this would make it easier to choose.

    Regards,

    B
  • 02-19-2011, 09:20 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    We have a way of making everything harder:D:D:D
  • 02-22-2011, 01:56 AM
    kai414
    If I was in your shoes I'd probably go for a female lesser and a female pin. Maybe even shoot for a female pastel. You could probably pick up all 3 for your price range. Then get a 2011 male bee and put him with those females and have a chance at 3 amazing clutches. Killerbees, queenbees, spinnerblasts, and so on!! You'll probably be able to get a male bee for around $350 for an 11 hatchling. Any male bees I produce this year ill be selling for around $350. That's just something I'd do if it was me.
  • 02-22-2011, 02:48 AM
    loonunit
    Yeah, a lot of the breeders will throw in single-morph males almost for free with morph females. That's how I got my black pastel breeding machine male... but it's usually males that they throw in for free, not females.

    I'm in an enchi mood. Is anybody else in an enchi mood lately? Enchi, or one of the BEL genes.

    Or a FIRE. If you get a fire female now... and a bumblebee boy later... you can make fireflies. Yeah! :gj:
  • 02-22-2011, 02:56 AM
    Simple Man
    Re: Purchasing 2 hatchling morphs and a third within a month - advice
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kai414 View Post
    If I was in your shoes I'd probably go for a female lesser and a female pin. Maybe even shoot for a female pastel. You could probably pick up all 3 for your price range. Then get a 2011 male bee and put him with those females and have a chance at 3 amazing clutches. Killerbees, queenbees, spinnerblasts, and so on!! You'll probably be able to get a male bee for around $350 for an 11 hatchling. Any male bees I produce this year ill be selling for around $350. That's just something I'd do if it was me.

    Great idea! I think that makes perfect sense. I just picked up my digital thermo/hygros, power cords for flexwatt, DIY rack, and will be shopping for all three snakes soon! I hope I can get a good deal with all three of them from one breeder. I just need to drive up to the Beanfarm and grab my Herpstat and Flexwatt and then I'll be snake shopping. Thanks for all the great posts!

    Regards,

    B
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