Ivermectin.....Good Or Bad?

Does anybody have any experience with using Ivomec (ivermectin) for treating snake mites? Im having a very small mite problem and am thinking about going that route. Any feedback would be great....Thanks

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Originally Posted by nor_cal1980

Does anybody have any experience with using Ivomec (ivermectin) for treating snake mites? Im having a very small mite problem and am thinking about going that route. Any feedback would be great....Thanks

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I would just buy some reptile relief and kill the little snotts on contact.I have used ivormectin in the past but prefer reptile relief :gj:.Its made by natural chemistry and actualy says reptile spray on the bottle.

PAM is all that's needed

Pam???

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Originally Posted by joepythons

I would just buy some reptile relief and kill the little snotts on contact.I have used ivormectin in the past but prefer reptile relief :gj:.Its made by natural chemistry and actualy says reptile spray on the bottle.

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Reptile relief is garbage....i've sprayed it on my snakes and still see mites crawling around on them the following day....It doesn't kill anything on contact. I speak from experience.

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Originally Posted by llovelace

PAM is all that's needed

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I use pam for my enclousers and thats it.....do you spray it directly on your snakes?

Ivermectin is probably overkill. It's pretty potent, as it was originally intended for swine and cattle. However I have seen it work wonders with a dog that I rescued 10 years ago.

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Originally Posted by rdoyle

Pam???

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Pam=prevent-a-mite

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Originally Posted by LizardPants

Ivermectin is probably overkill. It's pretty potent, as it was originally intended for swine and cattle. However I have seen it work wonders with a dog that I rescued 10 years ago.

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At this point overkill is fine as long as it doesn't hurt my animals. Im tired of using all the pet store remedies like reptile relief and zoomed. They don't work. In the past i've used pam wich works ok but i need something to kill the mites on my snakes

3 words: Prevent A Mite.

Its all you need to treat mites! No need to mix your own solutions, or trust someone else on "what will work".

Soak your snake in tepid water with a drop of dish soap and that will drown the mites on your snake for immediate relief while waiting for the prevent a mite to arrive.

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Originally Posted by nor_cal1980

At this point overkill is fine as long as it doesn't hurt my animals.

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Ivermectin is known to cause nerve damage in some animals. Go with the known remedy, prevent-a-mite.

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Originally Posted by cinderbird

3 words: Prevent A Mite.

Its all you need to treat mites! No need to mix your own solutions, or trust someone else on "what will work".

Soak your snake in tepid water with a drop of dish soap and that will drown the mites on your snake for immediate relief while waiting for the prevent a mite to arrive.

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i allready have provent a mite. it only kills the mites in the enclosure and not the mites that are actually burrowed in to the snake....

Once the mites leave the snakes, they get killed

Trust us

Provent-a-mite or Black Knight are one hitter quitters

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Originally Posted by nor_cal1980

At this point overkill is fine as long as it doesn't hurt my animals. Im tired of using all the pet store remedies like reptile relief and zoomed. They don't work. In the past i've used pam wich works ok but i need something to kill the mites on my snakes

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Ivermectin is a strong pesticide and if used incorrectly can be disastrous. It is administered orally in dogs (it can cause side effects or death in some breeds) so I'd assume a vet would treat a snake the same way (or its possibly injected into the snake?).

Why risk it when there is a GREAT and PROVEN product, Prevent-a-Mite, that is 100% effective and safe for snakes. Your right, reptile relief and the zoomed products don't work.

PAM does kill mites on the snakes. Once you treat the bedding as per the instructions, the chemical's presence kills the mites on the snake and in the enclosure. We had a snake in QT that had mites, treated the bedding and a day later...no mites, in the cage OR on the animal.

PAM all the way! :D

I've used Ivermectin before, my first ball had mites. I took him to the vet & they had me mix it into a solution that I sprayed on him and I'd rub it on him & then spray everything in his enclosure. I had to throw all of the furniture in the enclosure away. I threw away everything in the enclosure and used cheap tupperware for water bowls (so I didn't mind throwing them away) and then cardboard boxes for hides. It took a while but we eventually got those suckers knocked out. I wouldn't recommend using it without a vets instruction though.

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Originally Posted by nor_cal1980

Reptile relief is garbage....i've sprayed it on my snakes and still see mites crawling around on them the following day....It doesn't kill anything on contact. I speak from experience.

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Did you spray the enclosure and everything? If not thats why you still have them.

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Originally Posted by 2kdime

Once the mites leave the snakes, they get killed

Trust us

Provent-a-mite or Black Knight are one hitter quitters

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Trust me i allways have a can of provent a mite on hand. It does kill some of the mites but not all....and you cant get black knight anymore.

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Did you spray the enclosure and everything? If not thats why you still have them.

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Yes...i've sprayed the enclosures with pam....

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Originally Posted by jsmorphs2

Ivermectin is a strong pesticide and if used incorrectly can be disastrous. It is administered orally in dogs (it can cause side effects or death in some breeds) so I'd assume a vet would treat a snake the same way (or its possibly injected into the snake?).

Why risk it when there is a GREAT and PROVEN product, Prevent-a-Mite, that is 100% effective and safe for snakes. Your right, reptile relief and the zoomed products don't work.

PAM does kill mites on the snakes. Once you treat the bedding as per the instructions, the chemical's presence kills the mites on the snake and in the enclosure. We had a snake in QT that had mites, treated the bedding and a day later...no mites, in the cage OR on the animal.

PAM all the way! :D

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Originally Posted by jsmorphs2

Ivermectin is a strong pesticide and if used incorrectly can be disastrous. It is administered orally in dogs (it can cause side effects or death in some breeds) so I'd assume a vet would treat a snake the same way (or its possibly injected into the snake?).

Why risk it when there is a GREAT and PROVEN product, Prevent-a-Mite, that is 100% effective and safe for snakes. Your right, reptile relief and the zoomed products don't work.

PAM does kill mites on the snakes. Once you treat the bedding as per the instructions, the chemical's presence kills the mites on the snake and in the enclosure. We had a snake in QT that had mites, treated the bedding and a day later...no mites, in the cage OR on the animal.

PAM all the way! :D

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I swear i would think most of you guys on this forum have stock in provent a mite or something, the way you guys swear by it...it really doesn't work all that great. yes it probably is the best thing on the market right now that is made specifically for treating snake mites but thats not saying much....black knight was a great product but thanks to pam and pam's lawyers its no longer available in california or most other states.

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Originally Posted by nor_cal1980

I swear i would think most of you guys on this forum have stock in provent a mite or something, the way you guys swear by it...it really doesn't work all that great. yes it probably is the best thing on the market right now that is made specifically for treating snake mites but thats not saying much....black knight was a great product but thanks to pam and pam's lawyers its no longer available in california or most other states.

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I hate to ask but do you use it properly or is your can possibly out dated? Its ALWAYS been "one shot, one kill" for me. Luckily I have only had to deal with mites a few times but each time it was 100% sucessful that's why I recommend it.

Haha, my last post does kinda sound like a commercial for it. :P

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If one treatment isn't working, then re-treat. I've re-treated up to four times to be sure.

And I've never heard of mites "burrowing" into an animal.. They get in under the scales, yes, but I have sprayed a cage, put an animal back in there (after the 15 mins ) and literally watched the mites drop off. Mites so embedded in the under jaw that they were forcing scales up. 90% of the time, one treatment works, but for a heavy infestation treating several times, 1 week apart has worked very well for me.

The soak with the dish soap is the safest thing to get mites off the body of your animal. Mites cant breathe under water, the dish soap breaks the surface tension so the mites that dislodge from the body to breathe end up drowning because they don't float anymore.

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Originally Posted by nor_cal1980

I swear i would think most of you guys on this forum have stock in provent a mite or something, the way you guys swear by it...it really doesn't work all that great. yes it probably is the best thing on the market right now that is made specifically for treating snake mites but thats not saying much....black knight was a great product but thanks to pam and pam's lawyers its no longer available in california or most other states.

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No stock, I just prefer to stick with known good remedies.

A bit of background:
I rescued a dog nearly 10 years ago, a beautiful loving dobe. She was surrendered to a dobe friend, by horrible backyard breeders. She had demodectic mange (mites). The vet tried a number of the usual remedies, yet reluctant to try ivermectin due to the risks involved (disastrous to collies and some others). None of the traditional remedies worked, and she kept losing hair. After the appropriate tests, the vet tried ivermectin. It killed the mites amazingly quick, and her hair started growing back nearly immediately. To this day she is a great healthy dog, and no one would ever believe that she had mange as a puppy or even that she's a rescue.

So I offer this: If you have tried the traditional remedy (PAM), and it really doesn't work in this case, then ivermectin might be a viable option at the discretion of a competent herp vet. However please consult said competent herp vet prior to use.

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Originally Posted by jsmorphs2

I hate to ask but do you use it properly or is your can possibly out dated? Its ALWAYS been "one shot, one kill" for me. Luckily I have only had to deal with mites a few times but each time it was 100% sucessful that's why I recommend it.

Haha, my last post does kinda sound like a commercial for it. :P

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i follow the instructions on the can and no its not out of date. i use it on a regular basis as a preventative, hence the name "provent a mite", so i allways have a fresh can on hand. the one and only time that i had a bad investation due to snakes i bought online from a well known breeder, the pam actually killed alot of them but not all. i still had live mites walking around just days after treating. i think the tiny mite problem im having now is due to thinking i had killed them all w/ pam before but obviously didn't. i read about the ivomec method in a book i have. the book says its safe as long as done properly. just desperate do kill all of the little bastards once and for all....