Super pastel question???

Ok some of you may remember my little girl and the debate around what she really was...

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/...1296090796.jpg

Some said pastel, some said lower quality super pastel, and some said they thought ghost might be in there somewhere she was sold to me as a super pastel but the guy didn't know much about her as he hadn't produced her. I took a chance buying without more info I know but her pattern and faded head really interested me.

Well here's my question... When the possibility of ghost came up it was mentioned that I should check her shed and see if it was clear and that would indicate ghost. Is that correct? She has now had her first shed and it was clear head to tail no pattern on the shed at all just opaque skin. Does this indicate ghost?

On a side note I don't want to jinx myself but she feeds like a beast and has gained about 50grams in a month she's a little over 100 now so ic ouldnt be happier with her!

I would say a Medium grade super. The white lips give it away. I think she's far to dark to have ghost in her. I would like a little more blushing as a super, but she's young. She looks pretty good to me.

I don't see any hypo in her.

pastel and spider het ghost sometimes show the gene
i think this is what the OP is refering to

Looks like a super to me...I see no ghost though. Nice snake!

This is my pastel het hypo when she was younger. She is now almost 1400 grams and browned out a little bit. Her shed looks clear, but on very close examination shows some slightly darker patterns. It does not look anything like a normals pastel shed though.
http://www.dailybulldogs.com/balls/pics/capri_1.jpg

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Originally Posted by demjor19

looks like a super to me...i see no ghost though. Nice snake!

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Originally Posted by koloo921

This is my pastel het hypo when she was younger. She is now almost 1400 grams and browned out a little bit. Her shed looks clear, but on very close examination shows some slightly darker patterns. It does not look anything like a normals pastel shed though.
http://www.dailybulldogs.com/balls/pics/capri_1.jpg

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That is one hot pastel! I would love to see the adult pics!

To the OP, I don't see a super as it would have alot more blushing and the yellow would be more intense! The best way to find out is to breed her! Breed her to a normal and you will get all pastels if she is a super or breed her to another super and get all supers! Breeding is the only way to prove her out!

Nice snake, and being a good feeder is a plus.

Ok to clarify I didn't really think she was ghost but someone said she looked ghost the last time I posted pictures of her and said to check the shed for pattern so I was just curious if that were true or not. Her shed is clear no pattern whatsoever. So I was just curious.

Here are a couple pics that are a little better...

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/...1297539866.jpg

And her with my other pastel female...

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/...1297539904.jpg

Close up of her head...

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/...1297539898.jpg

I bought her as a possible super but only paid 125 for her. What pointed me toward super was the pattern, the faded head and the white lips. Any way you go I'm really excited to breed her. Part of me hopes she isn't a super because I would think if she was bred to the right male pastel she would make some pretty awesome supers.

Thanks for the insight and all the compliments guys

I see all super in her with that head. And, your other pastel is really HOT! Wow. Good luck in your future plans with them.

Thanks we are both excited to see what we can produce with them. It's a while away lol but our pastel does have some crazy yellow. Hope she dosnt brown way down .

I think there is something going on with her. She's really nice btw.

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Originally Posted by ScottNBecky

Thanks we are both excited to see what we can produce with them. It's a while away lol but our pastel does have some crazy yellow. Hope she dosnt brown way down .

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I can throw in two pennies to that, if
She is a ghost they tend to have a different feel when you touch their scales it feels a little more like the pre shed touch you feel on a normal bp or other morph. It feels almost like silky dusty. Lol i hope I make sense. There is some white that would make me think ghost but it looks like

Pastel Ghost
Pastel het Ghost
Maybe a Super
Good luck and Congrats on a great steal either way.

A Ghost will shed clear, if there are any markings in the shed it's not a ghost....

What did you do to that first picture :rolleye2:

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

A Ghost will shed clear, if there are any markings in the shed it's not a ghost....

What did you do to that first picture :rolleye2:

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The first pic looks like with flash, the others look like natural lighting, at to me...

Yea first pic was with flash in a dark room the other photos had no flash taken during the day. And as stated the shed was clear I'll be checking future sheds also to confirm the lack of pigment in the shed.

Looks like a Pastel Hypo to me...Good score for $125!!!

You need to breed something Hypo, or at least 100% Het Hypo to her!

Looks super pastel to me

I just don't see anything screaming hypo about it, our boy color was way different, I know both pastel and hypo are pretty variable but still looks super to me rather than hypo